UK to Censor Esoteric Websites

If ATS get banned in UK there will be hell to pay.

Or everybody is just going to register as PORN accesses and not care who thinks what LOL

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Exactly so much topics and complains by the UK and the US about china and Russia communist days of censorship and spying then look what the so call cradles of freedom and democracy are doing to their own countries citizens, what a whole bunch of hypocrites and morons, powers corrupt and you can only push a person so much until is fight backs with violence.

the question no one is asking:
why would any government act to prevent civilians from committing crimes, and thus eliminate the need for it's security apparatus [in this case the child porn section]?

no, the child porn is used as bogeyman/bait,
what is being promoted here is blanket censorship powers, granted, as always, by the peoples manufactured consent.

reply to post by PhoenixOD


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Seriously. Same exact thing with SOPA.

Right, what the hell is happening in the UK lately.

Restrictions on Twitter and Facebook are coming (regarding 'abuse', which can be as broad as it is long.)

Porn to be blocked by default...

My initial concern as soon as I heard the porn block was that this was going to be extended to 'extremist' websites too.

Magazines with page 3 girls in are going to have to be covered up soon, because women are moaning it makes women into objects (yet women's magazines which deliberately make women feel insecure are some how fine.)
They are pandering to the gay and womens rights groups whilst trashing any traditional (and to be expected) man behaviour.....

Now even pagan/occult stuff is to be banned? Why? Thought we had freedom of religion in this country??

I've had enough! We've all heard the overused '1984' rhetoric, but this really is it, no exaggerating anymore. I'm going to go mad.

They are trying ever trick they can.
smart kids will always find a way!

the parents need to learn to block the computer.

Originally posted by spartacus699
Must be an election coming up. then after the election they'll drop the idea.

THIS ^
2nd

Lmfao at blocking esoteric websites. Seriously, blocking magic spells? I thought the British people had evolved past being scared of witches

reply to post by uncommitted


Oh. So its all about having a list of people who does not want to use it?
I guess that would shorten down the list of citizens to keep an eye on.

reply to post by evictiongnostic


And the ones who opts in, goes on a nice little automatic list

looks like someone in Parliament is crying spiders. he just got voodoo'd but anyway i should be banned in england because i am esoteric, i like porn smoking(cigarettes? no those are bad for you) drinking, i am an extremist because of how i feel. racism is only okay if it's funny in my book. also are priest and a rabbi jokes racist?

It's tempting to laugh this off as a mad idea which simply won't work and will end up being a laughing stock. I'm a customer of Talktalk. which has pioneered this nonsense with its Homesafe filtering software. I can vouch for the fact that after a quarter of an hour of normal browsing, you have to disable it because it blocks access to completely innocent links. (Hilariously, it also fails to block access to some of the world's best known porn sites.)
What concerns me is that this is in breach of our legal right to information (we do have one!) Already, there is significant 'mission creep' beyond the government's stated aim of protecting children and blocking access to extreme pornography.
The reporting on this in the British media, and particularly the BBC, has been pusillanimous, with little or no acknowledgment that it is possible to object strongly to these proposals without wanting to condone paedophilia or indulge rape fantasies.
This must be opposed as an attack on civil rights and liberties. It's a short step from here to 'opting out' becoming not an option, and access to more and more sites and subjects being blocked.

reply to post by Eidolon23

The powers that be are trying to keep the truth from getting out. Who the hell will stand for this kind of censorship? Censorship will only help the criminal pervs doing the bad stuff. Shine the light!

Well, I guess now we know why they've been spying on us. Not that we couldn't have guessed but now the connection between the spying and the oppression/censorship is almost undeniable.

They wanted to collect all the "intelligence" on everyone before people most people understood why they were doing it (and before most people even cared).

It's going to be a lot harder now for them to claim the spying is just for security. At some point, they are going to just come right out and call it what it is. Censorship. And they're not going to care by that point if it pisses people off. If they don't care if it upsets you that they're spying on you, they're eventually going to be brazen enough to just outright ban speech they don't want.

reply to post by BrianFlanders


But how stupid are the people. I keep waiting, for if a majority, hell even 40%, stand up and refuse to follow unlawful criminal legislations. Phone in, write in and beat the pavement for long citizen meetings with leaders, fire them. Refuse to follow any of their statutes, and I can think of alot from how to garden in your front yard, the things that they try to prevent, having tomatoes in your front yard, or erecting little greenhouse in the back. When are people going to get mad and say NO NEVER GET IT YET. In large enough numbers. And if they don't listen you don't pay them. 40%, 50%, 60% do not pay a dime and refuse to endorse system until it is one wonderful world again. Been waiting. Will buy my whole family, heck may even splurge and get the neighbors some bullhorns for the occasion. Been waiting all of my adult life for sanity. For nothing else is sanity, following insane rulers is the most insane thing anyone could ever do. You cannot endorse or follow or obey this system or support it financially.

I also think if the internet providers cave in, and I've read some are not going to they claim, then if 40%-60% use a different technology to create their own very high tech, good graphics web out of tapping satellites it would be about time.

People really have the power in numbers.

What really concerns me is that most people are still not taking this as seriously as they should. These people are not playing around. I hear a lot of stupid jokes about government spying and censorship. If there's one thing it isn't, it sure as hell isn't funny.

People have been living in a fantasy for too long. A fantasy world where a government can have all this power with nothing stopping them from abusing it and they don't abuse it just because they're nice, ethical people.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by BrianFlanders

 

But how stupid are the people.

Are you kidding?

I also think if the internet providers cave in, and I've read some are not going to they claim, then if 40%-60% use a different technology to create their own very high tech, good graphics web out of tapping satellites it would be about time.

Dream on. The ISPs are in bed with these people. Remember Bush? Remember the spying? Remember when the telecoms needed "retroactive immunity"? You know why? Because they put up zero resistance. ZERO. They were not victims. They were accomplices.

The government can tangle these people up in so much red tape they'd be out of business in a few years (if that). They couldn't afford to resist if they wanted to.

How many times do I have to tell people, many laws are brought in, at first, on the side of public opinion. However, its a prelude to what they truly want to do. There will be no big announcement, just ammended laws.

The Hate Crime law is a fantastic example of this, introduced in to the Criminal Act 1998, people were all for it because it bascially was pitched as racist trash will no longer be treated as criminals but as criminal racist trash. What it didn't say was that it would target white on non-white, which actually was a cover by Labour to have an open door immigration policy without any conflict within the general population, which lead to decreasing wages, devaluing purchase power and a shortage of everything from school places to housing that we have today.

The Hate Crime law was actually the origin of this concept which is being pitched today, its taking the clamp down on freedom of speech to a new Draconian level. Again, its being pitched as, we will make sure your kids can't access porn, people cheers...What is really going on is that they want to smash to pieces any anti establishment movements and websites, but they cannot do that and that alone, so they focus on what the majority will favour, play on the emotions. It's a political move towards an ideological agenda of totalitarianism.

This can be all monitored, the Met alone is able to monitor what anyone (or any IP address) does as soon as it connects to the net, let alone MI5 and MI6. To me, who has working knowledge of this, its already in motion, its just not common knowledge. However, what they are talking about is total banning. This is simply about controlling what you view, what you read and what you think.

I said years ago that it would come to this, the end result of all these laws and changes to how we are governed either at work or at home will just end in how it was over 100 years ago. We will have no rights, we will be drones to glorified factory owners and we will be totally under control...Actually we are probably already there.

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
Hahaha... all I can say is you UK citizens brought this upon yourself and I don't feel slightly sorry for you guys. Sorry.

Laugh it up. It's your NSA that is listening to everyone's phone calls and storing and profiling every email you send and every search you make. It's your police that is turning into a paramilitary force. It's your country that will kill its own citizens with drones. I think you brought this on yourselves too.

As our government likes to say "we're all in this together".

They tried this in Australia. Basically the exact same thing. It got thrown out after a couple of years of arguing and huge amounts of taxpayers dollars being spent on promoting it.

WE KEPT OUR PORN - YOU CAN TOO!!!

Gotta protect the kiddies from seeing some naked flesh, but watching war porn snuff movies, taken from official military sources is just fine and dandy, like a cool video game!

The protection has already existed for years, in the form of parental controls, either embedded via the ISP or available as standalone software. It's the lack of resposnibility on the part of the parents once again that is the problem, but in todays society, it's almost mandatory to blame someone else for your own failings.

This could become a very slippery slope to go down and, despite government assuarnces to the contrary, will inevitably lead to further imposed censorship of material. Of course, that is the whole idea though!