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The Contradictions (and complete misunderstandings) of Christianity

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posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:07 AM
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Since I've been beating up on science quite a bit lately I figured it's time to give our beloved scientists clothed in purple garb a bit of a respite. In fact, some might misinterpret my so-called science bashing as a clever guise for my religious views. Perhaps I'm really a Bible thumper after all.

Well, I used to be. In fact that's what I originally began studying in my undergraduate days, with a desire to become a pastor of my very own church. My my how things change.

Now before you try and save my soul from my backslidden ways, pay very close attention here, because I don't want to have to repeat myself a hundred times. I can guarantee you that there's not one part of the Bible I'm not familiar with. And I probably know more about it than you do. I know more about it than most Christians. So before you go quoting a passage of scripture to me,

I ALREADY KNOW ABOUT IT.

I'll likely already know about any argument you have too. That's the beauty of you Christians, you're so simple minded. Which is not usually a problem, since I enjoy the simple things in the Creator's (the Real Creator that is, someOne you don't know) Universe. But you guys take simplicity of thought to a whole new level. And no, that's not a compliment.

I'm going to just go off the top of my head at first and list the contradictions and misunderstandings of Christianity. This list is no where near exhaustive. And I'll probably revise the list.

If you think of any other contradictions/misunderstandings, please help me with this list, and I'll update.

And please, Christians, for once in your simple little lives, stop believing that everything is an attack from Satan. Could be Satan just doesn't want you to eat from the tree of knowledge. Does God really want to keep you in the Dark? Not my God.


So w/o further ado..The silliness of Christianity:

-The only (greatest) story ever told was the Fall of Saturn. Like Tolkien said, there is no story without the Fall.

-The Bible teaches incest is wrong, but Adam and Eve's family had to have sex with one another.

-The Cross is really our crossing the galactic plane, when the Sun will die.

-The real Sabbath is Saturday, because that is Saturn, the reason why the Jews honor it on Saturday.

-Satan = Saturn

-The Bible teaches in one God, yet the Christians worship 3.

-Jesus = Lord Zeus or Isis or Horus

-God is love but the God of the Old Testament was a war-monger.

-Christians are supposed to let their light shine, but too often they just run their mouths.

-They'll argue the Bible is the Word of God, using the Bible.

-The apostle Paul (Saul) = Sol

-The 12 disciples/apostles = 12 signs of the zodiac

-Scenes in movies depicting sexual imagery is unwholesome but the Song of Solomon is not.

-Faith is enough to save, but faith without works is dead.

-Going to God directly is not sufficient. You must go through Jesus or Mary.

-God gave us free will, but He also created vessels made soley for destruction.

-The Bible tells us to love our enemies, turn the other cheek, and respect authority which makes them perfectly submissive sheep for TPTB.

-The Bible continues the belief that Jews are God's chosen, yet are one of the wickedest people to have existed.

-No where in the Bible does it say that God's love in unconditional.

-Murder is wrong, but we can kill our offspring if necessary for their wickedness.

-Lying is wrong, but yet also exonerated at times depending on its use.

-God is not a man, but Jesus was.

-You must abandon everything for God, but no Christian ever has.

-Images in God's likeness is idolatry, but Christians have no problems with pictures of Jesus.

-That picture of Jesus is usually of Jesus with long hair, even though the Bible says that a man with long hair is an abomination.

-The same common picture of Jesus has his heart outside his chest and his hand showing three fingers, yet the simple Christian has no idea what this means.

-The Bible tells the woman to keep quiet in Church, but look how many women pastors we have.

-Jesus was against organized religion, but that's what Christianity is.

-Jesus only hated hypocrites, not sinners, but Christians hate sinners.



Well, that should do for now I suppose. My brain is starting to hurt from all the stupidity.

Wake up Christians. And understand who the real Creator is, and stop being duped.

But I'm not going to hold my breath. Maybe when you go through the Tribulation (the Rapture is a recent idea) you'll get a clue.

Most likely you'll take the mark of the beast. That's what I think about you hypocrites.



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:18 AM
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Well I applaud that you have been enlightened... but tell me

Who or what do you think the creator is?
Why must you go through Mary or Jesus first?

I have not read the entire Bible (and am not religious), that is why I have more questions for you.



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:26 AM
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-The Bible teaches in one God, yet the Christians worship 3.
reply to post by CircleOfDust
 


You're argument failed right there

Let's see

5 whole days on ATS

And I'm not religious but even I can see through your arguments

Good luck, you're gonna need it, This is ATS



You'd do well to remember that

Just saying

Cody



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:32 AM
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The Bible teaches incest is wrong, but Adam and Eve's family had to have sex with one another.


Correct. And let's see how much of the OT you know.

When was the command to not commit incest given?

EDIT: And please explain how the rapture is a "recent" idea when the word is a theological carryover into English from the Vulgate.

Thanks for your patience in dealing with one of us simpletons.
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posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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The Bible teaches incest is wrong, but Adam and Eve's family had to have sex with one another.


Correct. And let's see how much of the OT you know.

When was the command to not commit incest given?

EDIT: And please explain how the rapture is a "recent" idea when the word is a theological carryover into English from the Vulgate.
edit on 29-7-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)


Very good point and observation, NoTur. I've seen this point brought up a number of times. I'm curious how the OP will respond.

Interesting thread that I expect to get picked apart bit by bit.

*grabs popcorn*



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:42 AM
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Thought I'd see you here NOTurTypical

Be gentle it's a newbie

Good luck newbie I think you just met your match this'll be fun to read

Cody



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:47 AM
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-The Bible teaches incest is wrong, but Adam and Eve's family had to have sex with one another.


Not only that, but, since Eve was cloned from Adam's rib, they would have shared identical DNA, and their offspring would have eventually died out from lack of diversity!



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:50 AM
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Thanks. And you are a good one to meander over into THIS thread. There is some rabid antiSemite over there claiming there is no such language as Hebrew and that people in the time of Christ spoke Paleo-Hebrew.

Have fun. Lol



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posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:50 AM
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*silent*

...that was a most Haughty OP for a christian

not sure i would wánt to discuss the list, anymore
What turned you that Agressive ?

...and please - dont bash rapture ;
it s the 1 only chance to get humanity Out of the Flower of Life prison which is starting after that



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by windword
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-The Bible teaches incest is wrong, but Adam and Eve's family had to have sex with one another.


Not only that, but, since Eve was cloned from Adam's rib, they would have shared identical DNA, and their offspring would have eventually died out from lack of diversity!


I don't think eve was a clone, so no the DNA wouldn't be identical. And what makes incest dangerous today isn't similar DNA, it's similar defects of the DNA strand between close relatives. The first humans created wouldn't have degenerated DNA structures. That happens over many generations.



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:53 AM
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Thanks for that

We may differ in our views but much respect to you

Have fun here I'll be popping in to watch you tie CircleOfDust up in knots

Cody



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Lone12
*silent*

...that was a most Haughty OP for a christian

not sure i would wánt to discuss the list, anymore
What turned you that Agressive ?

...and please - dont bash rapture ;
it s the 1 only chance to get humanity Out of the Flower of Life prison which is starting after that


I'm pretty sure OP made it clear that he/she was not a believer.



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:56 AM
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So, almost everything you post is stuff that's been debunked around here like 800 times like the Jesus = Horus crap, which isn't just based on bad research, but was literally MADE UP completely whole cloth by new agers to sell books. But you wouldn't know that because you never double checked what you were reading.

You play the word game like Satan=Saturn, Jesus = Zeus like just because two words sorta kinda sound the same they must BE the same. Like I guess a car and a jar must be the same right?. Not even realizing those games only work in English anyway and the people that wrote the Bible didn't even speak English! According to your logic Satan and Santa are the same holly jolly guy right?

You post contradictions which aren't contradictions because you know nothing about the OT Law. For example the directive for no incest given to the Israelites, but not the Gentiles, and Adam and Eve weren't Israelite. They were Gentiles. Also, not realizing that marriage was redefined in the NT.

Also, not realizing many of the directives given in the OT law have nothing to do with morality. For example, the Israelites couldn't eat pork, but there's nothing morally wrong with eating pork. Not everything they were forbidden from doing was morally wrong. For example the Gentiles could still eat pork and get into Heaven just fine. Trippy huh?

Not realizing the vast majority of Christians for the vast majority of the history of Christianity have never taken Genesis literally, just like the Jews didn't either for thousands of years before Christianity even got here. And not realizing that literal fundamentalism is a pretty new thing and that Christians that take Genesis literally are the MINORITY and not the MAJORITY of Christians.

And most of the stuff you post is just stuff you don't like about God or the Bible which is the worst argument ever. Not liking something is not a logical argument to say it doesn't exist. I don't like low sodium soup. I think it's an abomination on the earth, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It definitely does and I see it in the stores all the time.

So, just because you don't like God doesn't mean he's not up there.

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posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 11:59 AM
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Of course Eve was a clone. She was created from Adam's rib. God certainly could have made her from the dust of the earth, as he, reportedly, created Adam, but that's not how the story goes.

Since Eve WAS a clone, she wouldn't have the diversity needed for healthy humans to survive, albeit, after the fall.



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 12:00 PM
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Awww come on! Don't take the fun out of shredding Zeitgeist for like the 100th time on here!

#playerhater



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 12:01 PM
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Originally posted by windword
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Of course Eve was a clone. She was created from Adam's rib. God certainly could have made her from the dust of the earth, as he, reportedly, created Adam, but that's not how the story goes.

Since Eve WAS a clone, she wouldn't have the diversity needed for healthy humans to survive, albeit, after the fall.


If she were a clone of Adam she never could have carried Cain in her WOMB.


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posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 12:03 PM
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Right, and hybrids can rarely reproduce. The story is flawed from the get go.



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by windword
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Right, and hybrids can rarely reproduce. The story is flawed from the get go.


God just created man from dust and a woman from a man's rib.

How hard would it be for God to create them able to reproduce?

I mean, hell, the Big Man just called the universe into existence with a spoken sentence or three.

At least it's settled Eve didn't have "identical" DNA as Adam, because she was a woman.

What's the next objection?



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 12:13 PM
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i really had to read again the OP after your reply NT , thanks

- but i was under the impression.. that OP took a position of 'standing above all those little believers' ,
adressing himself as one,
some Vet or so,
..otherwise why he says " perhaps going through theTrib will help you " ,
would a non believer say that...?

regards,



posted on Jul, 29 2013 @ 12:26 PM
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Well, the pretext of arrogance and intellectual superiority is there absolutely, but this is basically a troll/flame thread to attack us simple-minded, drooling on our shirts people of faith. I just hope and pray, well maybe wish upon a star or something, that OP speaks slowly and allows us mental midgets a liberal grace period with which to reply.


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