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Originally posted by whyamIhere
Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by intrptr
And at what point were your 4th Amendment rights given away? Sure you are not doing anything wrong-- that is until they decide you are. How far back can they go? Oh just as far as they need to.
Please do us all a favor and wake up.
Another....If you aren't doing anything wrong argument.
As a proud American I will not even dignify that ignorance with a response.
But, I am sure glad you did...
Actually, its the other way around. They are scared to death of pitch forks. People can yadda yadda all day long , in fact thats what they want so people "feel" better because they get it off their chest. Kind of a soap box thing. Then they are less likely to act.
The government is more afraid of a well informed public then they are a mob of raving lunatics carrying pitchforks.
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by whyamIhere
Sorry, I replied twice.
As a proud American I will not even dignify that ignorance with a response.
How can one be a proud American these days?
I'm a real American and I am filled with shame about my countries behavior. Above and below. Here and abroad.
We're only watching terrorists. And the people that know them. And the people that know the people that know them.
Precrime is here.
Please don't blame America for the actions of a few men.
I understand where you are coming from. But what if our Founders gave up?
We need intelligent people like you on our side.
The easy thing to say is America is too far gone.
The American thing to say is "enough". If we really want to scare the hell out of DC.
We all need to unite. Nothing would scare these criminals more.
Originally posted by Yule C Mann
While trying to write this, it seems Quazimodo, MCP, Skynet, whatever, is not going to let me finish.
Everything is monitored real-time. They will predict yours and my future. Precrime is here.
I know the temptation is to join either side, to participate in the mayhem.
Originally posted by elouina
I thought we all knew this already? From what I understood, "they only pull out the calls themself, when you become a party of interest". Which I really believe, yeah right...
I see now that, believe it or not, we share the same views on this subject.
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by opethPA
That was really interesting. Thanks for the inside look. Every body should have a personal tracking device which can be wiped, located or locked down.
I bookmarked your post under surveillance.
Originally posted by intrptr
People can correct me on this if I am mistaken.
They don't record all your calls, just whatsis called who, when. If for some reason they decide your "calling activity" is worth a closer look
they may then enable a key word identifier on your line to see if you use certain words associated with their investigation. If they get "hits" on the key words, then bits of conversation around the "trigger" words are recorded and checked by a live body.
If the electronic surveillance warrants a real world "partial" surveillance, a decision is made to authorize the prohibitive costs of actually parking down your street and watching the address, opening your mail, going thru your garbage, whatever.
Only then do they pile up nearby in some parking lot and then come crashing your door in.
Whew, by then a lot of money has been authorized by higher and higher echelons of the local authorities, state, and any (higher) agencies to begin this and carry it thru to the actual raid. They need to justify all the expenditure and carry it out in stages that justify each intensification of the whole process.
By the time your door is actually broken down they are pretty sure you are guilty of something that justifies all their actions focused on you. This is how any investigation goes down suspecting criminal activity be it drugs, weapons, whatever. The whole process takes months unless say tips or emergencies warrant something faster.
Otherwise, R_E_L_A_X, you aren't that special! The gubment is not recording everything you say all the time. That would require more computers and storage space than the whole planet has room for.
Since I am assuming your reply above was tongue in cheek.