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“We’ve identified a chemical pathway of self-destruction that propagates cell death in worms, which we see as this glowing blue fluorescence traveling through the body. It’s like a blue grim reaper, tracking death as it spreads throughout the organism until all life is extinguished.”
As a hypothetical, let’s say a worm or a person is stuck in the desert, suffering from severe dehydration. The stress and strain of that leads to cellular shock and damage, causing individual cells to die.The entire organism doesn’t just die in an instant. The individual cell deaths trigger a chemical reaction that leads to the breakdown of cell components and a build-up of molecular debris. If this goes on unchecked, the individual is toast.
Originally posted by Isittruee
reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne
Stoping or preventing the process is one things. Aging is another entirely. When your bones can get so brittle if someone goes to give you a hug they break, would you even want to stay alive?edit on 24-7-2013 by Isittruee because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mr-lizard
According to this study it is.
news.discovery.com...=rssnws1
Scientists have managed to track the path of the 'death wave' (my words) which illustrate the component breakdown of cells which apparently leads to death. According to the article we do not die (as an organism) in an instant, what happens is - depending on the cause of death, our cellular structure begins transmitting necrosis from cell to cell in a wave like form.
This is easily monitored on certain types of worms, which have biological functions not too dissimilar to the biological functions of mammals.
“We’ve identified a chemical pathway of self-destruction that propagates cell death in worms, which we see as this glowing blue fluorescence traveling through the body. It’s like a blue grim reaper, tracking death as it spreads throughout the organism until all life is extinguished.”
the article continues
As a hypothetical, let’s say a worm or a person is stuck in the desert, suffering from severe dehydration. The stress and strain of that leads to cellular shock and damage, causing individual cells to die.The entire organism doesn’t just die in an instant. The individual cell deaths trigger a chemical reaction that leads to the breakdown of cell components and a build-up of molecular debris. If this goes on unchecked, the individual is toast.
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What does this mean then? What are your thoughts on the subject? I'd suggest reading the article for a clearer picture, but I think it is fascinating. It says we cannot prevent aging, but we can somehow prevent the (death wave) from spreading as a result of trauma.
i can actually do this myself with will. willfully induced necrosis of a part of the body. it feels like a wave. this is the feeling of the mystical water. Death. a diety. etc. probably too heavy for u guys to soak in. but ill leave this here. could prove it in a lab with doctors and the necessary equipment. meditation brings many great gifst
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by filledcup
i can actually do this myself with will. willfully induced necrosis of a part of the body. it feels like a wave. this is the feeling of the mystical water. Death. a diety. etc. probably too heavy for u guys to soak in. but ill leave this here. could prove it in a lab with doctors and the necessary equipment. meditation brings many great gifst
Anyone can do it if they don't take care of themselves. Gangrene for instance. Some gift.
except when used for genetic reconstruction on a living being
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by filledcup
except when used for genetic reconstruction on a living being
Genetic reconstruction is basically a paternity or maternity test. If you can do that, good on you.
Originally posted by Astrocyte
reply to post by mr-lizard
That's a bold hypothesis. Unfortunately, "stopping a death wave" seems no more plausible to prevent than finding a particular gene to prevent the aging process.
As the person is moving closer towards death. There may be a surge of energy as they get nearer. They may want to get out of bed and talk to loved ones, or ask for food after days of no appetite. This surge of energy may be quite a bit less noticeable but is usually used as a dying person's final physical expression before moving on. The surge of energy is usually short, and the previous signs become more pronounced as death approaches.
As this was happening we thought mom was only hours away from passing when all of a sudden around 11pm she sat upright and was pointing towards the ceiling and moaning, The mottling disappeared as did the Cheyne-Stokes as she cleared her throat when she sat up I think the morphine must have stopped working.
Breathing becomes more irregular and often slower. "Cheyne-Stokes" breathing, rapid breathes followed by periods of no breathing at all, may occur. Congestion in the airway can increase causing loud, rattled breathing. Hands and feet may become blotchy and purplish (mottled). This mottling may slowly work its way up the arms and legs. Lips and nail beds are bluish or purple.
The person usually becomes unresponsive and may have their eyes open or semi-open but not seeing their surroundings. It is widely believed that hearing is the last sense to go so it is recommended that loved ones sit with and talk to the dying during this time.
Eventually, breathing will cease altogether and the heart stops. Death has occurred.