So A Korean War Veteran Walks Into a Protest

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Another 73 people were arrested Monday at the North Carolina General Assembly in Raleigh, during the 12th consecutive weekly "Moral Monday" protest against state GOP agenda items. The latest display of civil disobedience brings to the total number of arrests to 925, the Associated Press reported.

Demonstrators gathered this week in opposition to a voter ID proposal and other voting changes currently being considered by Republicans, who now control both chambers of the state legislature and the governorship. The voter ID bill, introduced last week, would require all voters to present specific, state-approved forms of ID at the polls. The bill eliminates college IDs from a list of acceptable documents earlier approved in the state House.

The protests have been coordinated by the North Carolina NAACP and other activist groups around the state. NAACP President Rev. William Barber, who has been a regular feature at the rallies, was in attendance again on Monday, where he addressed the GOP agenda.

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What an absolute shameful disgrace to place an elderly man that needs a cane to walk in zip ties, simply for redressing his grievance with the North Carolina State Legislature as is his Constitutional right.

While there is absolutely NO REASON a 73 year old man should be cuffed like that or arrested.

This is just manufactured outrage:

Demonstrators gathered this week in opposition to a voter ID proposal and other voting changes currently being considered by Republicans,

Get in a car need to have a ID to drive , buy a bottle of beer need to have ID,buy smokes need ID,open a bank account to get that SS check direct deposited in to need an ID.

But somehow by GOD asking ID to VOTE is just simply 'outrageous' !!

Sorry no it's not.

What exactly are they protesting? They wanna be able to vote with no ID? Stupid.

Also, if 900 people had already been arrested, what did he think was gonna happen?

Sorry, no tears for this sob story.

reply to post by DaTroof


It doesn't matter if they were protesting a vote to change the official State candy, it's their right to do so. Need a match? The Constitution isn't quite burnt up yet.

reply to post by neo96


All of which are privileges, not rights.

reply to post by Kali74


Voting isn't a right either. Try voting without being registered.

Originally posted by DaTroof
reply to post by Kali74

 

Voting isn't a right either. Try voting without being registered.

OMG! The End Times are here. Myself and DaTroof are in agreement.

Where I live, registering as a Indendepent only allows you to vote in State and Local elections. Your vote doesn't count on a National level. Of course, with the electoral college, who's vote really counts these days at the POTUS level?

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by neo96

 

All of which are privileges, not rights.

Well fine then I don't ever have to show ID to ever buy another gun in my life.

Count me in the list of people with no problem with requiring a state ID to vote.

reply to post by Kali74


I applaud the man for doing what he feels is right. However, I totally disagree with it. As another poster mentioned, having an ID is quite a regular thing. Especially if you drive, expect to purchase items that require you to be over a certain age and the likes.

It's absolutely idiotic to think you can VOTE without an ID, yet have to have an ID to buy a can of Copenhagen chew.

Honestly people, quit being so damn reactionary and think.

Quick question before I even attempt to comment on this: Do you have a specific story as to why this gentleman was escorted out? Why he was? The linked story made no mention to it.

Originally posted by DaTroof
reply to post by Kali74

 

Voting isn't a right either. Try voting without being registered.

To clarify; voting isn't a Federal "right" but one could argue that it folds into the Ninth Amendment as a Right we hold non-enumerated and we seek the individual state we reside in to implement it to all citizens of that State.

Most States actually recognize it as a Natural Right of being in a republican form of Government; but that is the States and that is where the highest level of voting occurs (there are no Federal elections).

North Carolina's Constitution states this:

Sec. 3. Internal government of the State.

The people of this State have the inherent, sole, and exclusive right of regulating the internal government and police thereof, and of altering or abolishing their Constitution and form of government whenever it may be necessary to their safety and happiness; but every such right shall be exercised in pursuance of law and consistently with the Constitution of the United States.

Along with

Sec. 8. Representation and taxation.

The people of this State shall not be taxed or made subject to the payment of any impost or duty without the consent of themselves or their representatives in the General Assembly, freely given.

And....

Sec. 12. Right of assembly and petition.

The people have a right to assemble together to consult for their common good, to instruct their representatives, and to apply to the General Assembly for redress of grievances; but secret political societies are dangerous to the liberties of a free people and shall not be tolerated.

Also...

Sec. 36. Other rights of the people.

The enumeration of rights in this Article shall not be construed to impair or deny others retained by the people.

Those alone are enough to imply that the People of North Carolina have the Right to petition their Government (i.e.; vote), to do so freely and to do so how they see fit.

Post Script:
Stories like this irk me. Here we have a group of people, in all rights, protesting but why didn't they protest and/or fight to make changes to the General Assembly when it was time to vote? That is my biggest problem with this. They had a chance to make a difference and maybe they took it, but more people wanted the other guy -- so they protest? Isn't this the "democracy" people want? Or is it only what they want when they can get on the "good" side?

reply to post by ownbestenemy


www.thepilot.com... bcf6878.html

Probably arrested for assembling in the legislative building.

reply to post by Kali74


Exactly....why?! The story leaves someone who wants to know the why longing. It just says he was arrested. Sorry, can't succumb to the emotional draw of a man, specifically picked up by the NAACP to be brought to the rally and without any mention to why he was arrested (and apparently booked).

Too vague for me.

reply to post by neo96

Get in a car need to have a ID to drive

Do you know that he drives?

buy a bottle of beer need to have ID,buy smokes need ID,

Seriously? You are going to card this guy? I think he passes for the "looks under 40" rule most stores have nowadays.

open a bank account to get that SS check direct deposited in to need an ID.

No way a power of attorney (most likely one of his children) has that account and doles out money to dad.

Peaceably protest against an unconstitutional law? Na, can't have that right?

Tell me Neo, where in the US Constitution does it state that a person has to have a government issued ID to vote?

reply to post by HauntWok


The implication was not specific. Neo was pointing out that for many of our "freedoms" we need an ID to prove we can exercise them; save voting. Reading comprehension 101.

reply to post by ownbestenemy


None of which he listed are actual constitutional rights, but privileges.

reply to post by HauntWok

Do you know that he drives?

That 73 year old the only one who drives or votes?

NO.

Seriously? You are going to card this guy? I think he passes for the "looks under 40" rule most stores have nowadays.

Again millions of other VOTERS DO GET CARDED for quite a bit of things in this country.

No way a power of attorney (most likely one of his children) has that account and doles out money to dad

Sorry by LAW recently in fact SS benefit checks are no longer mailed they are DD that require ID to open.

Peaceably protest against an unconstitutional law? Na, can't have that right?

'Unconstitutional' eh must have missed that unconstitutional law saying I have to show ID to buy a gun.

Tell me Neo, where in the US Constitution does it state that a person has to have a government issued ID to vote?

Just as soon as the Anti voter ID crowd shows me where in that constitution it says I have to use ID to buy a gun.

We done here?

reply to post by HauntWok


You do understand that per the Federal Constitution's Ninth Amendment and all 50 States mimicking provision that mirrors it, Rights not listed are by no means not a Right? The Rights held by the People are too numerous to enumerate.

I have the Right to travel; we as a People of the numerous States have decided to do so, you must at least pass a test to -- but that Right is not taken away because one cannot pass the test.

I have the Right to buy alcohol, but we again, as a People (actually this one is strong-armed by the Federal Government) have limited the purchase to the years 21 and over.

Limiting legislation does not preclude or negate our held Rights not enumerated. So the question is, if we are able to place limits on the access of those Rights, why can't we do so on voting?

reply to post by neo96

'Unconstitutional' eh must have missed that unconstitutional law saying I have to show ID to buy a gun.

Actually it's quite constitutional, part of that "A well regulated" part that gun nuts often forget.

Just as soon as the Anti voter ID crowd shows me where in that constitution it says I have to use ID to buy a gun.

Sure thing, Article I Section 8 Clause 16

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;