Does Clarion Exist?

What about the planet of the "ONE EYED MOE"S"???? Has anyone heard of this place, does it exist???????

diehard_democrat,
OH MY! Your avatar really captures the fustration you seem to be having trying to grasp this idea. Sorry I had to mention it. And I won't EVEN bring up the signature!


[edit on 24-1-2005 by spike]

The Hubble orbits Earth. It wouldn't be able to spot something behind the Sun because it's not far out enough.

1. There is no other example of such a double planet, same orbit anywhere else in the solar system.

2. By most accounts, seems mathematically impossible.

3. "Clarion" would have been spotted by craft voyaging to other planets, and there have been several...

4. The gravity of the sun bends space to the point where we'd be able to see something even if it was behind the sun directly, if 93 million miles out like Earth, to my knowledge....

Originally posted by Gazrok
4. The gravity of the sun bends space to the point where we'd be able to see something even if it was behind the sun directly, if 93 million miles out like Earth, to my knowledge....

Not enough, bending of light caused by sun's gravity (or more properly dent in spacetime) has been observed at the time of solar eclipses, it's small and exactly like what Einstein's theory suggested but it isn't big enough to bend light so that we could use it to "see through sun".

Even for stars almost in line with the Sun, the shift in apparent position is less than two seconds of arc, or a few ten-thousandths of a degree.

www.esa.int...
For comparison apparent diameter of sun is half degree.

Originally posted by diehard_democrat
I'm sorry, I believe I misunderstood you. What I was talking of when I said "elliptical orbit" I meant something more around the lines of this:



With the Sun in the center, not off center like in the images you posted.

One problem, the Sun isn't at the center of Earth's orbit. So if you wanted the Sun to be in the direct center of these two planets they couldn't orbit the same paths. They would be opposite of each other; the Earth is at its closest, the other at its farthest.

I'm no good at graphics, so if someone wants to help me out and come up with an image to sort of represent what I'm saying I'd appreciate it.

Of course Clarion exists...
CLARION!!!!!!!!
They make really good electronics

Sounds like a series of books from the 70's written by John Normon named GOR

There's quite a bit of drifting off topic in this thread, so let's try and make a conscious effort to keep things on track. Thanks.

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I've been interested in Clarion for awhile, well at least since I've heard about it which wasn't too long ago, about a year or two.

Anyway, in the book, if I am not mistaken, it said that the chain of the Clarion abductions were happening in the late 40's early, 50's (please correct me if I'm wrong on that because that would throw off this theory I'm about to spew out XP) Anyway, in the book that I read, it said that the people from clarion appeared very attractive and told the people about how their world was being destroyed and how they did not wish for us to undergo the same fate, I'm just going off of what the book had said so it may be a little off, forgive me. (I have doubts after reading the previous entries in this thread) Well, anyway, I was thinking that since it was so early, perhaps their planet DOES exist and it IS still in our solar system. What if their planet really did undergo destruction, just as they had said, however the people who heard these stories misinterpreted the beings and thought that they meant that their planet was on the other side of the sun continuously, but what if it was only there at the time they left?It would be easy to understand the misinterpretation, when talking to an extraterrestrial being you're not exactly going to be calm. That would mean that their planet might still be orbiting in our system. The planet that I am most speculative towards with this theory is that of Jupiter, scientists in 1953 began to wonder is life is sustainable there due to the lightning and such, of course though, these being would be nothing like us. Perhaps it's a different planet even, or maybe it doesn't even exist at all.

Sorry, I just wanted to express that theory.

when it comes to 40's and 50's abduction reports, its hard to take faith in what they claim. New technology was hidden from the public. Imagine if someone from the 60's saw Halo 3? it would be horrifingly real to them on a TV screen.

How about movies today? many are cutting edge for us, and are starting the blend the lines between CGI and real picture. So take that into effect when dealing with what people " experienced" in the 1940's and on. We still have the Night Terror syndromw which wasnt diagnosed untill the late 90's.

there is NO way that a planet like has been described ever exsisted since the dawn of human intelligence. it would have been seen by people.. and we would have had concrete knowledge of it by the 60's thanks to Voyagers 1 and 2.

Clarion doesn't exist. Gravitational perturbations by the other planets would have moved it into a position where it could be seen from Earth.

Case closed.

No ones been out there so its anyones guess..... Somebody go up there and check?

[edit on 18-7-2008 by Nizzmo]