US Army WTF Moments-Sasquatch

reply to post by Drunkenparrot


I guess if you believe anything in the bible then it would lend credence to the debate that giants once existed. Just because National Geographic put out an article, that doesn't mean much. Particularly if rumors of suppression are true, wouldn't that just make National Geographic the equivalent to the media?

Sorry, didn't mean to derail things.

Originally posted by QuietSpeech
reply to post by Drunkenparrot

 

I guess if you believe anything in the bible then it would lend credence to the debate that giants once existed. Just because National Geographic put out an article, that doesn't mean much. Particularly if rumors of suppression are true, wouldn't that just make National Geographic the equivalent to the media?

Sorry, didn't mean to derail things.

The link I posted was just a convenient example.

Sorry, I don't take anything written in the bible as empirical fact.

reply to post by Drunkenparrot


Well at least that makes two of us.

Good find OP. This isn't the only mention of sasquatch in an official capacity. There was the Oregon Wildlife Atlas. That was published by The Army's Corps of Engineers. It was in the 8o's or 90's. It was for recruits who spent extended periods of time in the wilderness. It was given its own page with a drawing description and what to expect if crossed one in the woods.

reply to post by sparrowstail


It would be great to get a copy of that book. I see it is recognized on Amazon.

Source

Originally posted by NAVO66
reply to post by Druscilla

 

No you are wrong again. Rules and regulations in military manuals are conceived by a higher committee within the chain of command in order to cover all contingencies (or at least as many as they can think of). These rules and regulations are ment for EVERYONE not just the lowest common denominator, because even the best of us can't get everything right 100 % of the time. The lowest common denominator probably wouldn't even read the regs anyway.

The army takes endangered species on their property very very seriously. I once witnessed an armored brigade stop in its tracks during a live fire excercise at the national training center in California because an endangered ground tortoise was reported in the area. Over a hundred tactical vehicles were not allowed to move until the tortoise was found and relocated out of the range.

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He speaks the truth.
In Hawaii here, once an endangered animal hits the scene, we are to stop all training activity, report it up and wait till the animal moves on, trust me, we pray we get an encounter!!! training in full battle with the hot ass sun in the middle of the day sucks!!!
EDIT: One of the biggest things about training that gets covered in the CRM process is, "Don't mess with the wildlife" its drilled into your heads, we can't control if they come to us, but we can control our approach to it.
If a Bigfoot walked up on a platoon of soldiers, we are not going to shoot, but we will stand our ground and slowly back away slowly....very slowly....

Originally posted by sparrowstail
Good find OP. This isn't the only mention of sasquatch in an official capacity. There was the Oregon Wildlife Atlas. That was published by The Army's Corps of Engineers. It was in the 8o's or 90's. It was for recruits who spent extended periods of time in the wilderness. It was given its own page with a drawing description and what to expect if crossed one in the woods.

Here is a good mention "in official capacity" as well....



Resolution declaring Whatcom County a Sasquatch Protection and Refuge Area

Everybody knows County Councils have no sense of humor and would never pass an superfluous law in order to appease an unrelated agenda?

reply to post by Drunkenparrot


This document is another reason I can still hold out some hope for us.

reply to post by Druscilla


Spoken like a true master of a few community college classes!

Originally posted by Arnie123

Originally posted by NAVO66
reply to post by Druscilla

 

No you are wrong again. Rules and regulations in military manuals are conceived by a higher committee within the chain of command in order to cover all contingencies (or at least as many as they can think of). These rules and regulations are ment for EVERYONE not just the lowest common denominator, because even the best of us can't get everything right 100 % of the time. The lowest common denominator probably wouldn't even read the regs anyway.

The army takes endangered species on their property very very seriously. I once witnessed an armored brigade stop in its tracks during a live fire excercise at the national training center in California because an endangered ground tortoise was reported in the area. Over a hundred tactical vehicles were not allowed to move until the tortoise was found and relocated out of the range.

--
He speaks the truth.
In Hawaii here, once an endangered animal hits the scene, we are to stop all training activity, report it up and wait till the animal moves on, trust me, we pray we get an encounter!!! training in full battle with the hot ass sun in the middle of the day sucks!!!
EDIT: One of the biggest things about training that gets covered in the CRM process is, "Don't mess with the wildlife" its drilled into your heads, we can't control if they come to us, but we can control our approach to it.
If a Bigfoot walked up on a platoon of soldiers, we are not going to shoot, but we will stand our ground and slowly back away slowly....very slowly....

edit on 21-7-2013 by Arnie123 because: add

And like everybody knows. Endangered species are rare, and even people who lives in their natural habitat will probably never see one. Many animals fear humans and will avoid contact the same-way they do with other animals. And that's for protection.

If Bigfoots, sasquatchs and yetis are real, they will run from humans in sight. They don't want to be disturbed. It's possible that Bigfoots fights with bears and pumas over food, which might explain why they are very elusive. Even a big human/gorilla will not survive the powerful attacks of these animals... or a gun shoot.

When I was stationed in Ft Wainwright, Alaska, myself and two other soldiers had a sighting on base. So I know the big guy is real.

When I reported it to Fish and Game, they took notes and asked for the location and details. They acknowledged that bigfoot is real. The guy told me they are referred too as "Wildman" in those parts, are shy and won't harm you.

After years of research, I've concluded BF is indeed real, a type of human, and our government or certain agencies are WELL aware of them.

reply to post by boomer135

Or is it an epic failure on the part of the army?

This right here.

I worked for them for 8 years. Trust me, they have epic failures all the time that people never hear of.

It always cracks me up how I watch military movies and they always picture that military as this well oiled invincible machine that never makes a mistake and has flawless communication at all times to all the people therein.

Probably some army clerk was pissed off at having to write a SOP for the range and threw in the sasquatch reference just to be a smart ass and see if anyone would notice.

reply to post by Cancerwarrior


Now you know everything some clerk in the Army writes (actually very few things) must be reviewed by their NCO and then by an Officer for signature. So you're saying some Officer would allow his name to be attached to some foolishness?

In my experience in the Army that is not the case...

reply to post by DZAG Wright


I'm willing to bet nobody even paid attention to it.

I've been to many ranges, you always get a safety briefing on any range from an NCO. I have never sat down and read the actual SOP for range safety and I have been to all kinds of ranges (Tanks, Bradleys, Rifles, pistol) all over the world.

Sorry, but I'm 100 percent sure its an army fail and not some ulterior motive that they know sasquatch is real.

Originally posted by Cancerwarrior
reply to post by DZAG Wright

 

I'm willing to bet nobody even paid attention to it.

I've been to many ranges, you always get a safety briefing on any range from an NCO. I have never sat down and read the actual SOP for range safety and I have been to all kinds of ranges (Tanks, Bradleys, Rifles, pistol) all over the world.

Sorry, but I'm 100 percent sure its an army fail and not some ulterior motive that they know sasquatch is real.

I'm 100% sure BF is real and the Army as well as other branches know...

reply to post by DZAG Wright


Oh I am sure bigfoot is real too. Too many people have seen him.

But you are giving the Army way way too much credit if you think they can cover up something like bigfoot.

Personally, I think a cover up is not really needed. I think they are very smart creatures. Smart enough to know to stay as far away from humans as possible.

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Druscilla

 

The Army isn't exactly renown for enlisting intellectual juggernauts. Too many red neck back-woods raised hillbilly servicemen may be of the habit and policy of "what is it? I dunno, let's shoot it".

No this, is a WTF moment.

Seems as if they gave Sasquatch the exact same rating as they gave to the mountain lion.
Both ARE listed as examples of rare species sightings they're encouraging soldiers to report.
In other words if you see one ? You're not los'in your mind. Report it.

edit on 21-7-2013 by randyvs because: (no reason given)

exactly .. !!!!

knew my bro would be nailing it ! high 5 !

Originally posted by Cancerwarrior
reply to post by DZAG Wright

 

Oh I am sure bigfoot is real too. Too many people have seen him.

But you are giving the Army way way too much credit if you think they can cover up something like bigfoot.

Personally, I think a cover up is not really needed. I think they are very smart creatures. Smart enough to know to stay as far away from humans as possible.

The Armed Forces isn't so much covering it up as having no comment. BF is something they have no control over and thus they neither confirm or deny. I've talked to other service members who have had sightings and even reported them and the overall sense is that the Forces know yet....they don't know. BF is crawling all over military installations.

reply to post by DZAG Wright

The Armed Forces isn't so much covering it up as having no comment.

So what makes you think they would intentionally put it in a range safety S.O.P. that anyone can see? It's not like only military folks are gonna read it. (if anyone does)

BF is something they have no control over and thus they neither confirm or deny.

In my 8 years. I've never had anyone tell me to report bigfoot if I saw him. And I was a tanker, always out in the woods doing maneuvers and training and such for weeks/months at a time. I've never heard of anyone else seeing bigfoot (although that does'nt mean nobody did.)

BF is crawling all over military installations.

I've been to Ft. Knox, Ft. Polk, Ft. Hood, NTC in Irwin CA and many others, and I've never heard of any range manual (or any S.O.P.) telling troops to report bigfoot if they see one. So I'm calling this an army clerk being a smartass prank.

Ok, here's my take on it. I think that the army does know something about bigfoot or sasquatch, but they won't or can't share about it with the public. I don't know why I think this, it's just that I have read to many things about the army and bigfoot. Especially that base in California. I can't recall the name, but I remember reading something about video cameras recording bigfoot walking around in the underground hallways.

But anyway, I think that reference to sasquatch might have been a mistake and they are playing it off as a joke, which incidentally everyone believes anyhow. I could be way off on my thinking but that is just my two cents.