Where was God Before He Created the Universe?

16 years while doing a little county time (yeah, I was a fool back then) I was speaking to a hard core atheists, And when I say hard core, I mean hard core. You couldn't even open your Bible or anything without this guy butting in on your conversation. He was more of pest than anything. He just had to remind you that God was not real.

Anyway, me and this guy would go back and forth all day long about the topic, he would rattle me and I would rattle him, it was pretty entertaining. Not a day went by that he didn't come over and start asking me a ton of questions.

Despite our differences we ended up being pretty good friends.

But there is one question he asked that still puzzles me to this day, mainly because I have no idea.

He asked "Well if God created everything in the universe, where was He before He created it? One the edge of the universe or something?" Of course he ended that question with a sinister laugh

Normally I have some pretty fast comebacks, but that one stop me in my tracks. All I could say was "I have no idea" he goes "Well you think about that" and walks away with a grin .

To this day I still haven't been able to come up with an answer that makes any sense.

Anyway, that's a little history about myself and where I first heard that question.

How would you have responded to that question? Naturally no one has the answer to this question, but a little speculation is fun from time to time.

So were do you think God was before He created the universe and everything in it?

There doesnt need to be a "before god"

Time is man-made. We assume everything has to have a beginning or end.

There may have not been a beginning, but that is too mind blowing to comprehend.


Briles

I think god was sitting around trying to solve a Rubik's cube.

Once he solved it.

He was like " I can do anything!"

he was probably off performing miracles somewhere and when he got around to our little planet decided that he had enough of performing them!

Kindest respects

Rodinus

Originally posted by Rodinus
he was probably off performing miracles somewhere and when he got around to our little planet decided that he had enough of performing them!

Kindest respects

Rodinus

How could He be doing miracles if there was nothing created which needed healing

Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker

Originally posted by Rodinus
he was probably off performing miracles somewhere and when he got around to our little planet decided that he had enough of performing them!

Kindest respects

Rodinus

How could He be doing miracles if there was nothing created which needed healing

Erm, he might have been somewhere else... you never know?

Kindest respects

Rodinus

Originally posted by Briles1207
There doesnt need to be a "before god"

Time is man-made. We assume everything has to have a beginning or end.

There may have not been a beginning, but that is too mind blowing to comprehend.


Briles

Time is man-made.

You are just joking right?

playing spades with Santa, the easter bunny, and the loch ness monster!!!! obviously

I wouldnt expect many people to understand.

Its a tricky concept and hard to fathom.

I have difficulty myself sometimes.

You would have to erase everything you know about time out of your head.

Imagaine if there was no begnining......

reply to post by RealTruthSeeker

How would you have responded to that question?

If there wasn't a universe, there would be no need for a god.
Whoever it was who later became God, would have been before that a normal person.

What if the Big Bang crated a universal conciousness ( God) at the moment matter formed or something?

The universe does look like a really really really big neuron right?

reply to post by RealTruthSeeker


Personally, I think the question is irrelevant. "Where was God in space and time before space and time existed? Nowhere! If God is outside of time and matter, not made of time and matter, the question doesn't apply nor does it matter "where" god was.

The more important question, "If God created everything, who or what created God?"

Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by RealTruthSeeker

 

How would you have responded to that question?

If there wasn't a universe, there would be no need for a god.

That doesn't make any sense to me. Does God arise from need?

Whoever it was who later became God, would have been before that a normal person.

Is God a person? What is a normal person? How could God have been a person before there were people, planets or the universe? If God was a normal person before creation, was he in the company of other normal people? Did he have parents and a family?

reply to post by Briles1207


I don't think there was a beginning. Something does not come from nothing, and since the universe Is something, this something had to have always existed.

I think it's funny that Christians believe that they have eternal life from believing, yet still believe they didn't exist before this lifetime. Eternity has no beginning, meaning their belief collapses on itself.

What if God was that infinitely tiny speck of massive energy that started it all. To me it's the only way things add up.

reply to post by Briles1207


Yup, it's the time concept we have an issue with. I think you hit the nail on the head Briles.

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by RealTruthSeeker

 

Personally, I think the question is irrelevant. "Where was God in space and time before space and time existed? Nowhere! If God is outside of time and matter, not made of time and matter, the question doesn't apply nor does it matter "where" god was.

The more important question, "If God created everything, who or what created God?"

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I'll agree the question might be irrelevant, but I don't think we can say God was nowhere. God had to be somewhere. I realize the idea that something outside the universe is hard to comprehend, but's it's possible.

The question "If God created everything, who or what created God?" doesn't bother me. I have no problem accepting that who or whatever started everything must have always existed.

Originally posted by commandlines
What if God was that infinitely tiny speck of massive energy that started it all. To me it's the only way things add up.

That is certainly possible, but then would have to ask where that tiny speck of energy was before it went bang.

reply to post by RealTruthSeeker


If God had to be "somewhere" before creation of existence, who created the "somewhere."

I contend that "God" does not exist if God is outside space and time, the ie: existence. It's the proverbial question, "Does zero exist?" Does zero encompass the total of everything, or is it a representation of nothing? Is nothing possible?

In my world, God is the total of everything, therefore we are a part of God. God = The Universe.

The question "where was he before" is effectively placing God within time, with a "before" and an "after".
It also, in a way, places God within space, by asking "where?"
But if both space and time are dimensions of the universe which God created, then God himself would not be included within them.
I suggest this makes the question invalid.