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Originally posted by iwilliam
Originally posted by Briles1207
I thought the quickest way to access the pineal gland was by taking D.M.T? Disclaimer: Don't take D.M.T.
:-)edit on 16-7-2013 by Briles1207 because: (no reason given)
What a ridiculous piece of potential disinformation. First, Dr. Strassman hypothesized that this compound is biosynthesized in the pineal. This has not been proven. One study did recently confirm its presence in the pineal of rats, so that does speak well for Strassman's hypothesis. But it's still not proven to be true. Therefore it is still speculation (even if it is "intelligent guesstimation." )
Secondly, as far as we know taking '___' itself, and its effects, have nothing to do with "activating" the pineal. As far as I know, Strassman (or anyone else intelligent and qualified to do so) has / have not even speculated on this. I have the feeling you just pulled that directly from your back side. If you have some kind of credible source for this information (which I very much doubt) I'd be curious to see it. Just because it's made there (assuming that it is) doesn't mean that it "activates" this center. Neuropharmacologically speaking, we do somewhat have an understanding of how this chemical produces its effects. And while it is somewhat unique, there are other related chems which produce similar effects by manipulating similar neurotransmitters / parts of the brain.
Strassman did speculate that maybe, just maybe the stuff is released in large quantity in the brain upon death, and/or maybe even birth. But this is pure unsubstantiated speculation with almost zero basis in evidence. He speculated it may be present in the pineal because he knew there was melatonin in there, and a particular enzyme that could aid in the process of converting melatonin to '___' (and the substance has been found in human blood before.) His evidence for the death / birth hypothesis? Some "breakthrough" experiences have had a resemblance to some reports of Near Death Experiences. That's a very small thing to base a hypothesis like that on.
Yet people go around repeating this as if it's a fact. I recently saw some really dumb brain-fried kid do this on a National Geographic show. "It's like, 'the god molecule' doood, and tons of it is released in your brain when you die and stuff...."
I'm just tired of seeing this speculation mindlessly repeated as the gospel truth by people who have never even bothered to take the time to read Strassman's research for themselves.
*EDIT*
*Bashes own head against wall a few times. Face-palms. Then another head-bash or two for good measure*
Ironically I posted the above before I even saw your next post. God that was painful. I'm not trying to be mean, but maybe your (hopeful) embarrassment will lead you to better check your information in the future before parroting unsubstantiated fact from some person you saw on the internet.
Originally posted by Briles1207
I know that the brain releases the chemical at the point of death, which could explain near death experience hallucinations?
No. You don't know that. You know nothing of the sort. Nor does anyone else, as far as I know.. It's a very interesting theory. But the '___' experience is not limited to "NDE" type experiences. Lots of people experience nothing even remotely like that. Maybe strassman is right. But right now that's a huge "maybe." If he is, it does raise a very interesting (and kind of scary) question. Does that mean a molecule is acting as a "transporter"... to carry consciousness into and out of the body? Or is this just one final kindness from the universe for a conscious species aware of its own impending death...? One last bit of euphoria, and a feeling like there's "something else" ... before blackness...?
That's my 2 cents. Please check your sources in the future. Especially when it comes to those types of topics. Tons of bad info out there....edit on 16-7-2013 by iwilliam because: (no reason given)
First time posting on ATS.
I love the topic of Spirituality and the pineal gland. Having been in the process of decalsification on the Gland I would like to share some of my results.
I have been Trying to become Iodine efficient (which is near impossible considering Brohmin devour that stuff.) But I keep it up because it have many good quality's to it. By removing/Reducing the consumption of Fluoride (produce and consumer goods is impossible to be sure of) I have had no more insomnia I am more focused and Well I see alot of Purple. (my third eye vision i call it)
Originally posted by Realtruth
How can one quantify activation of the Pineal Gland?
And how can one know that listening to the OP's link to the audio, that it will work?
When looking on YouTube I always look at responses and feedback, but it doesn't say much about how the audio is working to activate the gland.
Originally posted by rickymouse
I've been trying to shut my pineal gland off for about three years. Curiosity makes me not shut it down. Where is the information coming from, it seems to have many sources. I think I am a full fledged cone head already.
It's not psychic, it seems to be a communication network with certain humans and also with some other beings in nature...Plants, animals, bugs, microbes, or basicly anything alive. The other biengs that do not speak or think like us is harder to decipher. It is not the pineal gland alone that allows this communication though. I'm not sure just what all is involved yet, but I will find out someday. I don't think speaking to the dead is part of this, but tapping into relatives minds may be a possibility.
Originally posted by sled735
Originally posted by rickymouse
I've been trying to shut my pineal gland off for about three years. Curiosity makes me not shut it down. Where is the information coming from, it seems to have many sources. I think I am a full fledged cone head already.
It's not psychic, it seems to be a communication network with certain humans and also with some other beings in nature...Plants, animals, bugs, microbes, or basicly anything alive. The other biengs that do not speak or think like us is harder to decipher. It is not the pineal gland alone that allows this communication though. I'm not sure just what all is involved yet, but I will find out someday. I don't think speaking to the dead is part of this, but tapping into relatives minds may be a possibility.
Your post made me laugh. A full fledged cone head.
Why would speaking to the dead not be influenced by the pineal gland? I mean, not everyone can do this. I think you have to have your "eye" opened to communicate with the spirit world.
Thank you for your reply.edit on 7/17/2013 by sled735 because: typo
Originally posted by Psych3d3licPsych3
People on here make this sound so easy, like a youtube video and following a step by step guide will open the gland, truth is it can take many lifetimes to achieve this.. Our glands where closed along long time ago, and things like flouride and EMF do nothing but make it harder to achieve this enlightment, they are not the cause . Love everything and higher your frequency, give up all your material things and go into nature. I'm sorry but that's the only way. I plan on leaving for the forest in a few years time, I'm just prepering myself.
Originally posted by Realtruth
How can one quantify activation of the Pineal Gland?
And how can one know that listening to the OP's link to the audio, that it will work?
When looking on YouTube I always look at responses and feedback, but it doesn't say much about how the audio is working to activate the gland.
Originally posted by Realtruth
How can one quantify activation of the Pineal Gland?
And how can one know that listening to the OP's link to the audio, that it will work?
When looking on YouTube I always look at responses and feedback, but it doesn't say much about how the audio is working to activate the gland.