Breaking News! George Zimmerman found not guilty.

What civil rights violationS ?
Just offer up one.

Originally posted by VoidRonin
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

The prosecution had no case because Trayvon was alone and he was killed. The prosecution had hardly anything to go on. Zimmerman on the other hand, had a whole year to make his case. Yes we live with the decision, which is exactly where we were when he was killed a year ago.

But now, we have to fight all the legislation that is about to be proposed.

You should know the theory that he had a whole year to get his defense in line is not true.
If you recall he gave the video reenactment with the police the very next morning and the story has been that the whole time. Some give Mr. Zimmerman way too much credit, The police showed up just minutes after the shot was fired. He in no way thought up the whole self defense story in those minutes.

Recall the man on the corner saw Mr. Zimmerman stagger to the top of the T getting his phone out to call 911 just when the police came around the corner where he had been to get the address just minutes before he was accosted and assaulted.

I agree though, we need to fight any legislation that will try to restrict or in any way infringe on our right to defend ourselves from an attack from violent people.

Originally posted by bruteforce13
another lesson we should take is everyone needs to get a ccw to protect themselfs from OTHER ccw holders. I mean are you out patrolling the streets and following people with your ccw? Ya playing cop bro?

May of you keep repeating this...where Zimmerman was playing cop. Well then let me ask you, when was the last time you saw cops walking your neighborhood? I have never seen cops walk anywhere near my neighborhood, and hardly see them in a car.

If cops do not do this, but you do, how is that playing cop? Why not say...he was playing private security guard since that is about as close as we can get in comparison. The reason why we don't is because the media TM the statement "playing cop" to convict Zimmerman in the eyes of the public.

reply to post by OLD HIPPY DUDE

yeah thats the question ive had i cant find one reason they can charge Zimmerman( a minority) with violating the rights of martin(also a minority)

they can try a civl rights lawsuit or trial but they will not succeed well in anything else but wasting tax payer money as i have yet to hear a legitimate reason for how george violated travon's rights

reply to post by miconATSrender


They both contributed to make this thing happen. It wasn't just one person, when something like that happens it is usually both people who cause it.

Zimmerman, Guy said, “got out of his car with a pistol and two flashlights to follow Trayvon Benjamin Martin, who was walking home from a 7-Eleven, armed” with a fruit drink and a bag of candy. Eventually the two became entangled on the ground in a fight. A witness has said Martin was on top of Zimmerman, Guy said. “The defendant claims that while Trayvon Martin was on top of him, he said, ‘you are going to die tonight,’” said Guy. “Nobody heard that.” Guy told jurors that no witnesses saw what happened the night of the shooting from beginning to end. Witnesses only saw “slices” of what happened, he said.

whotv.com...

I also heard part of the 911 call on TV. I can't link to the news I don't think.

From what I heard and read, I would never want that guy in my neighborhood with a gun.

Me, if I had the gun, I would have pointed it at the other guy and said stay out of here if you know what is good for you. If he would have come at me, he would have been shot in the nuts. A fate worse than death

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
A year ago the FBI determined George Zimmerman WAS NOT racist !

www.inquisitr.com...

STOP BEATING A DEAD HORSE !

Great Point....

and a question for everybody....

If the shooting was a local 'incident'....

why was the FBI involved to begin with ?????

reply to post by xuenchen


I’m outta this thread and waiting for the Fed vs Zimmerman thread which will be pooping up soon.

Where I predict the same types of replies and the same not guilty outcome. If it even gets that far.

You heard it here first folks!

reply to post by litterbaux
MSM is to blame for turning this into a media circus. They showed the victim as a 12 yr. old meek and mild kid; not the thug he turned into at 17. They portrayed Zinnerman as a trigger happy vigilante not protecting his neighborhood and eventually his life as he was pummeled.
The media is trying to racially charge American so that when the elite pull the rug it will turn into a race war and not a class war. Non elitists need to work together. The bad guy is not the colored dude or whitey next door but the billionaire criminal in the Armani suit. Go after the Federal Reserve and not your neighbor.

In our age there is no such thing as 'keeping out of politics.' All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia.
George Orwell

Originally posted by muse7

This wouldn't have occurred if George Zimmerman had not wrongly profile Martin as a criminal, hell at the time he decided to dial 911 and report him all Martin was doing was walking and "looking around" the neighborhood, I mean what's he supposed to do? Walk with his head down?

So you are a part of your neighborhood watch. You see a hooded individual walking around. So let me ask you, if a person that was going to break into a house would they not first just walk around looking for an opportunity, would there be a good chance that a person doing that would be hooded to help prevent anyone seeing their face?

So Zimmerman follows him, and Martin walks straight to the house he was staying at, and not double back to confront Zimmerman, what harm would have been done.

The only thing to remember here is that for both parties the wrong started at the point Martin doubled back to beat Zimmerman.

Originally posted by Galadriel
reply to post by TKDRL

 

Protect you from what? skittles?

Really?......Really? That is what the MSM have been saying the whole time.
If he would have a pack or rubbers in his pocket would you be saying that too. gees.

Everyone by now, according to his phone posts, knows he was using the skittles and soda to mix with prescription drugs to make some LEAN or if you like Drank. He was a drug user with a record of trying to buy illegal guns and selling them, he loved to fight. He was a violent person. SO nobody is scared of his bag of drug ingredients. I think people are more worried about getting killed by a violent creep.

Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by Astrocyte

 

So let me get this strait...hmmm. you think following someone is worse than being assaulted by someone.

Do you understand that one would be legal and the other is not?


BTW it is against T&C to mention forms of drugs here. Just FYI.

Oh man I wish I would have read this before I made the comment about the LEAN drug sorry everyone. It was evidence not admissible but yet part of the court records, I hope thats OK.

Originally posted by Wookiep
This from Keith Olbermanns "fan page". (facebook)

If we could all stick to it and just do it, and I mean really do it! "BOYCOTT Florida." If they refuse to live in a civilized society, so be it. We don't have to take our lives into our own hands when we visit their state and possibly lose our life in a state that is filled with murderers and hate. Let's just do it! Quit bringing tourism money into their state. We can force any state in this country a lack of revenue if we just stick to OUR guns (no pun intended) and not support that state in any monetary manner whatsoever.

Keith Olbermanns Fan Page

Ban Florida?? Are you effing kidding me?? WTF is wrong with these people out there?? This guy... You want to BAN Florida because there was not enough evidence to convict Zimmerman of the crimes? You're mad because the justice system worked? I cannot believe the amount of spin people like this are putting on this story. The MSM are ALL acting like idiots. There is something deeper going on here for sure.

I'm seeing so many ignorant comments on Facebook right now from people that are just absolutely ridiculous. I cannot believe this BS hive mentality going on. If people have anything to be scared of, it's the massive amount of idiots who watch the MSM and can't see past the BS. It's truly frigtening.

edit on 13-7-2013 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)

I am with you, people are mostly crazy, and they wonder why we need guns to protect ourselves from them.

Man I tell you what, I am making it a point not to even load my FB page. I only have real friends and family on mine, none of the, who can get the most strangers on there friend list, stuff for me. any who, I have a feeling I would make so many people mad at me. Most of them are Progressive self hating PC simpletons. Sorry but its true. I am for the not guilty verdict. and I know they all still think Mr. Martin was a 10 year old little boy on his way home at night with a bag of skittles and a tea, and a huge old man hunted him down like a scared bunny in the dark rainy night.

So sometimes its best just to come to ATS.

Originally posted by LadyofGlass

There is a big part of me that believes this case was highlighted for the simple reason it divides us even further.

Two sides:

Side A. Teenage black man is staying in a middle class neighborhood and decides to go buy himself a drink and rainbow candies. As he is walking, random stranger follows and approaches him thinking he is another burglar that is out to get the better of the community. He sees this man and at first walks away, then asks him why he's following him. When the other man is aggressive he fights him. As a strong youth he smashes him to the ground but not before the other gets the best and pulls the gun out...shooting him dead.

Side B:

Recent burglaries in the neighborhood have caused one of it's residents to take on the duty of the militia spirit: to scout the neighborhood while bolstering the spirit of what makes America great. One night a shady figure walks through the rain and he follows. When asked, the man became aggressive. A fight broke out and the unknown stranger was far stronger and slammed his head against the ground. In an attempt at a preemptive attack, he draws his gun and fires blindly in the heat of the battle. His head is bloodied and he is on an adrenaline rush.

My take:

Man with too much energy and pent up anger didn't have the common sense to announce he was a neighborhood watch. Instead he decided to play superhero and some black kid with some skittles now rots in unknown places. The moral of the story is that if you want to be a hero, make sure you're willing to take the precautions to take caution when dealing with "bad guys".

Oh yeah, and down that same vein....100k+ civilians are dead in Iraq now because of our hero complexes. Congratulations.

I really wanted to agree with anything in your post but Nope, its malarky. You might need some skittles and tea, I hear they do wonders to relax one. Oh and I think you can watch the whole trial on C-Span they are known to archive stuff. The facts are there, toss out all the hate and speculation.

I guess I can agree with the dead civilians in Iraq, That is true.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Wow this must be proof that the MSM can create the news out of thin air.

I am blown away how powerful and far reaching this topic has become.

I actually don't find it to be of world importance. The only reason IMHO this ever became as big as it was, was simply as an ulterior MSM attack on human rights (self defense in this case). The MSM's track record with human rights is that they are most often against them in their rhetoric. So it wouldn't be a big surprise that they fulfill the pattern this time.

People are misreading the Constitution or something. Sure it provides for a free press, but this press is anything but free. How can you have a "free press" when a small group of traitors can control/own it and purposely push anti-freedom rhetoric constantly? The only thing that comes off this 'press', are lies, half-truths, and propaganda.

MuzzleFlash
You hit the bullseye!

pun intended

I will be very disappointed if the Dept. of Justice steps in to charge Zimmerman federally... Its nice to see that they're almost folding to public pressure from the NAACP. Zimmerman went up against a jury of his peers and was found not guilty. This case should be OVER!!!

Screw all the #nojustice bs... I wonder why these same people weren't freaking out over the Caylee/Casey Anthony verdict If anything, that was WAY MORE tragic, atleast Trayvon had a fighters chance...

This case was a no brainer, he was on private property, he didn`t live there he was just visiting someone who lived there, if someone comes on my private property after dark and they don`t live here then I have the right to follow them, question them and if necessary shoot them if i feel threatened by them.
Thats exactly what happened in this case.That community is private property, no tax money was used to build or maintain the roads or sidewalks in that community.the roads and sidewalks in that community were paid for by the people living there,those roads and sidewalks are private property, just the same as your yard is your private property,it`s not open to the public to just wander around on as they please.

I like to share a video that I've came across. Its quite hilarious!

Originally posted by xuenchen

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
A year ago the FBI determined George Zimmerman WAS NOT racist !

www.inquisitr.com...

STOP BEATING A DEAD HORSE !

Great Point....

and a question for everybody....

If the shooting was a local 'incident'....

why was the FBI involved to begin with ?????

Because, as Chief Lee, then police Chief Lee, then Chief of Police Sanford P.D. testified to, he was pressured from outside forces, and requested the DOJ involvement long before Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton came along. The DOJ had 35 FBI agents investigate, and George was found to not have been guilty of acting in any form of racism.

It was only after the "Martin Family", Jessie Jackson, and Al Sharpton, Crump and Ass's. hired a publicist who then worked a media frenzy, and got Holder and Obama "If I had a son" involved, that they hired the special prosecutor Angela Corey.

She then bypassed the Grand Jury and filed the indictment. It then went from a prosecution to a persecution. They knew from the start there was no evidence, the trial was done to "appease" the racial tensions our own government had created (proof that DOJ sponsored marches and rallies at Judicial Watch) with the help of the Scheme Team, Crump, Jackson, Sharpton.

Crump, "We only want him arrested. He doesn't have to be convicted."

Why? Homeowners association settlement for an undisclosed amount, over 1 million dollars.

This was rather satisfying...Earlier today, Alan Dershowitz ate angela corey alive for her misconduct regarding this case.

There's a transcript of his earlier interview at this link: www.realclearpolitics.com...

small excerpt:

Halfway through the trial she realized she wasn't going to get a second degree murder verdict, so she asked for a compromised verdict, for manslaughter. And then, she went even further and said that she was going to charge him with child abuse and felony murder. That was such a stretch that it goes beyond anything professionally responsible. She was among the most irresponsible prosecutors I've seen in 50 years of litigating cases, and believe me, I've seen good prosecutors, bad prosecutors, but rarely have I seen one as bad as this prosecutor, [Angela] Cory.