ET structure on Moon

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by libertytoall

 

Why do so many people on this forum reply with things like "durp durp, waiting for Phage, durp." Since when did Phage gain so many fans and since when did Phage become the man with all of the knowledge of the universe? Seems kinda fa_ like.

Some people will never be able to think for themselves. I have no idea what it is. Bizzarest anomaly I have ever seen.

I am not a "fan" of Phage but I admit that he is smarter than me in some aspects. And I say this because so many times his " sources" are awesome and even if I dont agree with his conclusions (by the way I belive in aliens, well I want to belive) i often learn something new when I read his sources.

Are you mean to tell me that "I have no idea what it is. Bizzarest anomaly I have ever seen" is your conclusion!? Maybe that is why some people are waiting for Phage, he often comes with some type of answer, might not be the correct one but is better than "I have no idea what it is. Bizzarest anomaly I have ever seen"

Originally posted by raifordko
Gortex already posted their official explanation. It's an artifact caused from the imaging process.

I must have missed that. Appreciate the update. ~$heopleNation

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by CosmicQuest

 

ET structure on Moon

What makes you say "ET" rather than natural structure or occurance?

from the photo it could just be ejecta from a small space rock hitting.

Yes, it could. But it could also be E.T. Back to step 1.

Originally posted by Kashai
Another craft could have been sent clandestinely that contained the nuclear weapon.

Just stop and think for a moment.... So this launch of the "nuclear weapon" was secret? no one noticed a Saturn V launch.... from where was it launched? Who controlled the launch, who monitored and tracked it?

The point you have made is silly as obviously in such a scenario the development of a dust cloud would take much more time on the moon than on earth.

What point are you talking about, why do you think a dust cloud would take longer on the moon?

Where is the maths you claimed you had?

Any thoughts?

Yes, you are getting very silly with your claim of a nuclear bomb launched at the moon.

So basically it could be a nazi/nsa/alien/nwo moonbase, or the home of Santa Claus, or a portal into another dimension. Or then it could be a natural phenomenon or some data artifact. Should we apply Occam's razor?

reply to post by hellobruce


What is silly I that this could not be an image of a nuke detonated 0.1 seconds after it occurred. In so far as clandestine launches into space they are usually done by the navy. Alternatively there could very well be locations on land where such a project could be feasible without the press finding out about it.

What nation in the world would not be interested in seen the effects of a nuke on the moon.

You simply do not wish to acknowledge that such an effort is technologically possible.

But in reality it was actually very possible in the early 1970's

Any thoughts?

Originally posted by Kashai
Alternatively there could very well be locations on land where such a project could be feasible without the press finding out about it.

So you think the USA had secret infrastructure for transporting, assembling and launching a Saturn V....

What nation in the world would not be interested in seen the effects of a nuke on the moon.

All of them, I would say - what was the point of it?

You simply do not wish to acknowledge that such an effort I technologically possible.

You refuse to accept the reality that it was not possible back then....

But in reality it was actually very possible in the early 1970's

No it was not.

Any thoughts?

Still a silly idea!

Where is the maths you claimed you had, why not show us it??

reply to post by hellobruce


A nuclear weapon could have been launched and placed into orbit. At which point it could very well have been taken in tow. Further, yes it is possible that a Saturn 5 was launched without it becoming public information why do you have a problem with that???????

It sounds like you are grasping at straws...

Any thoughts?

reply to post by GFDGFS

Are you mean to tell me that "I have no idea what it is. Bizzarest anomaly I have ever seen" is your conclusion!? Maybe that is why some people are waiting for Phage, he often comes with some type of answer, might not be the correct one but is better than "I have no idea what it is. Bizzarest anomaly I have ever seen"

People dont need to be a genius to understand what they don't know but its no excuse for letting others to do your thinking for you. Many times we wont have the answers straight away and may never reach a solid conclusion of what something very usual and out of place is. This thread allows people to provide opinions and im interested in hearing as many different opinions from posters as possible. I have still no idea what is, it looks bizzare isntr an understatement of this mystery.

The tree like arms branching from the object look interesting. Once of the branches is intensely illuminated compared to the rest, that is looks like a huge glow rod rod. Is this some kind of exotic lighting system in use, providing warmth and light inside are of the crater.

Neat pic, looks kinda like electrical arcs of some sort although they are to my eye way to big in scale for the size of the area seen in the photo, ie you'd think they'd have a far more detail in them if they where some form of energy discharge or bolt of that size, I personally dont see any sort of structure in the photo that couldn't simply be an artifact of lighting or reflection for what ever reason, even the diagonal lines could simply be part of the photographic process.

So id have to say possible photo defect (if it wasnt then why on earth is it not censored out?), but who knows interesting all the same.

Originally posted by libertytoall
Why do so many people on this forum reply with things like "durp durp, waiting for Phage, durp." Since when did Phage gain so many fans and since when did Phage become the man with all of the knowledge of the universe? Seems kinda fa_ like.

As to this nonsense, seeing how many stars you got for that post and the replies in agreement id just like to say intelligent people value Phages input because he's an exceedingly intelligent and very broadly knowledgeable individual whos often right on these sorts of things (to deny that shows either extreme ignorance or outright willful bias on his detractors) and very quick in how he can put that knowledge base of his to a plausible and very solid, valid answer.

I don't always agree with what he says on the forums here and on other topics and on somethings ive seen him comment on I flat out think he's wrong but I know he's far smarter than myself as he's demonstrated from reading his input in this place over the last 6 years ive been in this place and im in no way afraid to admit that.

Others no doubt feel the same as i do, its pathetic you have hard core believers who simply resort to calling him and anyone who might value his rational opinions or judgments as a valid contribution to this and other subjects, by names or dispersions... ironic the ones talking about thinking outside the box and not following others are blindly doing exactly that.

They arent asking Phage for the answers, they simply want to see what he thinks of it since he might (and usually does) know stuff some of us might not or hadn't thought about. That is after all what you do to get to the bottom of things isnt it? Get info from all angles and then pick the one most likely to be truth?

You'd think an anti-intelligence mentality would be rare in a place like ATS.

The first thing to ask yourself is the following. Does the phenomenon take into account the surrounding topographic features of the landscape? in this case, it doesn't, that means it's either, above the landscape or simply an artefact of the film that was used, the lens reacting to light changes etc. If you look below to the right on the raw image there's a sort of cursors effect with two more seemingly parallel lines. I am guessing it's light and that the main "unknown" is, in part caused by the camera attempting to differentiate between the brightly lit portion and the transition to the dark of what I'd guess is a fairly deep crater.

Plus, to my mind, if the phenomenon is anywhere near the surface of the moon it really should be lighting up any smaller craters around it. That it doesn't really is another huge point in favour of the film artefact camp.

The other explanation that would have some legs would be, the "Transitory Luminous Phenomenon, which has been observed, as already stated, for centuries and maybe that causes this effect on the film.

Generally, when there's something strange and not quite clearly defined containing a lens shape in a photograph, it is something lens related.

reply to post by Kashai


It's absolutely not a nuclear explosion. Thinking it is shows a complete lack of knowledge on the subject and your attempts to reinforce you opinion with no data to back you up is laughable.

Originally posted by BigfootNZ
They arent asking Phage for the answers, they simply want to see what he thinks of it since he might (and usually does) know stuff some of us might not or hadn't thought about. That is after all what you do to get to the bottom of things isnt it? Get info from all angles and then pick the one most likely to be truth?

Exactly.

Phage almost always has great links as well, to allow one to explore his reasoning and answers in more detail.

Plus his avatar is awesome! One of my favorite movies ever! Hollywood better not try to "remake" Buckaroo Banzai, if they know whats good for them. *shakes fist in the air*

The lunar dust storm idea seems very plausible. I myself really know nothing about the phenomenon other then the links provided earlier in this thread.

Originally posted by raifordko
reply to post by Kashai

 

It's absolutely not a nuclear explosion. Thinking it is shows a complete lack of knowledge on the subject and your attempts to reinforce you opinion with no data to back you up is laughable.

What is laughable is your inability to support your data, it is obviously a nuclear explosion. The real joke is suggesting that in this photograph there should be a dust plume .

Do dust plumes occur at the speed of light?

Your ignorance related to the subject matter is obvious.

reply to post by Kashai



OK, now I am convinced you are a troll and just joking. That has to be the only reason you can be this ignorant.

Originally posted by raifordko
reply to post by Kashai

 

OK, now I am convinced you are a troll and just joking. That has to be the only reason you can be this ignorant.

The only reason for such an opinion is related to the idea that dust plumes occur at the speed of light

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
reply to post by CosmicQuest

 

Here's another one from the same image:

Seems similar and therefore probably a glitch/image artifact.

edit on 13-7-2013 by OrionHunterX because: (no reason given)

Guys... Hey guys.

Guys listen.. Hey..

This man has CLEARLY shown that it appears elsewhere in the same image and its nothing more than an electrical discharge with the camera! It is NOT an alien space craft. It is NOT Extra-terrestrial.. It is NOT an alien nuclear explosion (someone seriously considered this?)

It is an image artifact. Grow up get over it and move on

Originally posted by Aliquandro

Originally posted by gortex
It could be an image artifact caused by static discharge in the camera .

A bright, lightning-like feature is found on a small number of images. This type of blemish is the result of a spark caused by static discharge. As the film moves through the camera system (see Figure 1), static charge is built up and, when discharged, an image of the spark is captured by the film. These features typically originate at the edge of the image and branch inward. The sizes vary greatly, from small, discrete bright spots (Figure 3A), to encompassing an entire half of a Metric image (Figure 3B). In the affected images, the spark may take on many different forms, several examples are given below. This list is by no means inclusive of all the "spark" images.
apollo.sese.asu.edu...

Image artifact. Eagerly await the next alien moon harvesting nuclear bomb moon base reptilian shape shifting photo
Case Closed. You can all eagerly await the next alien space craft lighting rod ET nuclear bomb moon tunnel reptilian photo
Case closed people... Let it go...

edit on 13-7-2013 by gortex because: (no reason given)

Brilliant! Thank you Gortex.

I have to admit as an artist, the enhanced version of the OPs image had my mind tripping for answers. But THAT'S the thing, see? Even science and the natural forces on this planet (and inside your spaceman camera) are some trippy shiznit! Whether there's a logical answer or not, it's sometimes fun to just shut that circuit off and enjoy the view!

Thanks OP for an awesome find, was an awesome mystery... and still is for some!

Originally posted by Nomad451
It is NOT Extra-terrestrial.

People really need to learn the actual definition of extraterrestrial.

I'll post definition links....again.

Extraterrestrial

Extraterrestrial may refer to any object or being beyond (extra-) the planet Earth (terrestrial). It is derived from the Latin Root extra ("outside", "outwards") and terrestris ("earthly", "of or relating to the Earth").
en.wikipedia.org...

originating, existing, or occurring outside the earth or its atmosphere
www.merriam-webster.com...

I understand because of the way we are conditioned, and this being ATS after all, how one can muddle this up.