The Language of Vampyr

reply to post by Kantzveldt


How did you formulate that spiritual entities could manifest into a physical entity and post on the internet? The OP in your other thread you linked to suggests they have a physicality but this is not explained very well how this transformation occurs. Maybe this is where hollywood and that B Stoker guy got the notion they are also shape shifters.

reply to post by Doodle19815


This here is also interesting: www.bartleby.com... Sisters of the Covenant. They do not exist anymore:

Of this class were all the nuns who suffered in Persia, namely, SS. Varda, the two Theclas, three Maries, Danacka, Tatona, Mama, Muzachia, Anna, Abiatha, Hates, Mamlaca, Tata, Ama, Adrana, and Maraca; for they are called Bnoth-Kiama, or daughters of the covenant. All these classes of holy virgins lived in private houses, before monasteries were founded; but never in the same houses with men, as St. Cyprian testifies, (b. 1, ep. 11.) They had consecrated themselves to God by vows of chastity.

reply to post by Doodle19815


Im sure it can be dependent on how it is defined, do people drink other peoples blood sure, is it because they believe they are vampires sure, is it because they are like Elizabeth Bathory and believes it will keep her young well that did happen but did she observe this action as vampirism, alchemy, or science, or just mentally ill? I am not an expert in fairy tales, myths, occultism, and ancient rumors/ religious texts

reply to post by Direne



No i indicated Demons are a non-existential phenomena, using the wind as a metaphor...see Lilith.


It's fair to say i share their obsession with stars, symmetry and doors.


Sumerian Stargates


And perhaps i'm not the only one...?

reply to post by Kantzveldt

spiritual forces are invoked through symbology, invocation and ritual

I agree. I think words pronounced like a mantra gets your mind into a state in which you can communicate in a totally different way. Mind and sound is a recurrent theme in trance rituals (any of them). And even today some religions do recitation of their holy books. Reading is not enough. But how is this so? What's the power of words being "chanted" upon the mind?

Ok...I am getting some popcorn for this one...

Oh and I like the stars too but being an amateur astronomer is just a hobby as is ATS.

I am very curious to how this conversation is going to play out...

reply to post by Direne


That was an interesting read, I am going to re read it again as I am unclear to certainty what example it is trying to illustrate, I find an interesting selection in there referring to a group of gods people advocating the slaughter of a pair of gods people but I do not want my opinion on the read to be considered anti semetic so i will read again to make sure I have read that correctly the first time, There is lots of other interesting points in there as well Ill comment on that a little later.

reply to post by Kantzveldt


Lilith in the land of Nod. We have a label "Lilith" with 5 entries, yes. And two for Asherah. And they say vampires are decendants of Cain, who was hosted by Lilith in Nod, when Asherah's husband, whose name I can't recall, threw him out of Argenih.

They say Cain's sons invented pottery. And geometry. And music. I can't remember right now the names of Cain's two sisters.

I tend to throw up the hex sign at the mention of demons and other such mess.

So for my part I will just read the discussion from here out and forego posting.

reply to post by Direne



It is a question of metaphysical dynamics, the interaction of variables, the manifestation of pattern, rhythm,and rendition of archetypal forms...the establishment of relationships.

Originally posted by JayinAR
I tend to throw up the hex sign at the mention of demons and other such mess.

So for my part I will just read the discussion from here out and forego posting.

Want some popcorn?

reply to post by abeverage


No thanks.
Gets stuck in my teeth.

reply to post by Direne


Cains sisters and all that can be found in the Apocrypha or something like that

This is a somewhat insight into this

Aklia and Luluwa are their names and apparently Cain (hater) got his name from Adam as he despised his mothers pregnancy or something to that effect

Originally posted by Direne
reply to post by Kantzveldt

 

spiritual forces are invoked through symbology, invocation and ritual

I agree. I think words pronounced like a mantra gets your mind into a state in which you can communicate in a totally different way. Mind and sound is a recurrent theme in trance rituals (any of them). And even today some religions do recitation of their holy books. Reading is not enough. But how is this so? What's the power of words being "chanted" upon the mind?

So then am I right with the Video and the frequency of 24.04 Hz modulating the mind? Or is this part of Forgotten Languages ritual?

reply to post by Direne



I only really mentioned the name as it is considered to relate to the term for wind, as in the general sense of the Lilu Demons.

I feel like at this point the discussion is being side tracked. Or we are being lead down many paths to distract from the topic. Did we not determine that the use of Vampyr in their group was referring to the idea of one language taking, or using another language to build off of? Why delve into this discussion when we are trying to realize the intentions of this group? I don't mean to come off as rude, it just seems like for each question is a vague answer that just brings up more questions that are further from the main point of coming to an understanding.

reply to post by Kantzveldt


Sure. But what makes some patterns to be "metaphysical" and other patterns be just geometric? Also, mirror geometry (dualism) seems to be quite productive in biology. Even the human brain has two hemispheres. Music is highly geometric in nature. Actually, the entire Universe is geometry. Language is also symmetrical.

And you need two beings to start communicating. Though the essential thing you need is space. Distance. Without space separating beings, communication is not necessary.

Originally posted by Direne
No other language is related to Summerian.

Hmm? I wonder, is this strictly true? Sumerian appears to have originated as a written language, initially, solely for the purposes of administration and record, and was not necessarily a spoken language of the people who resided in and around Sumer, or even necessarily reflective of that spoken language. Akkadian contains some words that are, at the very least, 'borrowed' from Sumerian, and possibly is more reflective of having developed from the vernacular spoken in and around Sumer.

reply to post by HackedAlias


I agree. Yes. Though it was becoming interesting the relation among Lilith, the Lilu demons, and Luluwa.

reply to post by HackedAlias


I dont mean to come off as rude or ignorant either but our new member Direne, is a member of the group being discussed being allegedly involved in a vampire group, sure the idea of the vampire intention has for some been dismissed but I am interested as to where this discussion will lead as this member is also apparently affluent with all kinds of interesting information and Knowledge. Just to clue you in if you didn't know again not to be rude or disrespectful there has been lots of things written in this thread if you havent already go back like 8 pages and read from there.