The Language of Vampyr

One thing is sure, though... these people are NOT simply "rich, pretentious Goths playing a prank."

reply to post by JayinAR


Great work on this thread btw.

And ur right no emo gothies here.

These folks seem incredibly intelligent, not just for the work they are doing but in the way they have kind of sheltered themselves with their website. It also appears these guys have an underlying deeper goal. I know some one brought up stargate and language of the gods. I do believe its more than creating a universal language and breaking thru cultural barriers. I cant wait to check back in.

forgottenlanguages-full.forgottenlanguages.org...

Bearla Lagair is the title of the article. Look at this...

When googled, google offers the words Beerlao Lager.

Beerlao Lager

Beer Lao is a premium authentic rice beer brewed from a unique blend of the finest European and Laotian ingredients, a fusion of the best traditions of East and West.

As we know and i have found out personally , these modified languages on the forgotten languages website contain a mix of other languages to produce one language. Here is the specific statement in that quote that is key.

a fusion of the best traditions of East and West.

Then quoted from the beer website again...

The oldest archaeological records of rice cultivation in the world can be found in Laos, and throughout the millennia Laos has provided a home to more varieties of rice than any other country in the world.

As we know, the forgotten languages website deals with history to a great extent.

A lot of similarity here.

reply to post by jonnyc55


Jonny, I have no doubt you are putting a lot of effort into your research. Unfortunately, I am unable to see your findings as anything other than coincidence. I'm not saying it is that, just that I am unable to follow along.

Could you please summarize your findings into a follow up post, so that I might be able to see the bigger picture?

reply to post by CitizenJack


Perhaps the stargate connection is there because, in their research, they have turned up some of the same info that Kantz has turned up?
I have a hard time believing some software developers are building real stargates.
It is a cool connection though.

And thanks for the kind words.

reply to post by AKindChap


With regards to that image of the Nodespaces software, I can make out "powered by ********** UVI engine". I couldn't see the middle word.

UVI engine is, from their website:

The most flexible, fully featured and universally compatible sound engine ever realized - UVI Engine is the result of more than 10 years of research and development. Powering some of today's most prolific software instruments, including the paradigm changing, multi award-winning MachFive3 from MOTU, UVI Engine has proven itself as an industry leading solution for software instrument development.

www.uvi.net...

Contact Information Postal Address UVI SOUNDS & SOFTWARE 159 rue Amelot 75011 Paris France Email Adrresses General Information : [email protected] Technical Support : [email protected] Fax : +33 1 43 38 84 06 Company Legal Information UVI Sounds & Software is a division of Univers Sons S.A, organized under the laws of France. Registered at the Registre du Commerce et des Sociétés de Paris - Paris trade register number B 339 985 905 (1992B00023).

www.uvi.net...

Looking at the company (Univers Sons S.A) on their website it says that they only have capital of 600000 euros.
www.univers-sons.com...

I don't know whether any of the above information is useful but the more information that we have the better.

EDIT: Looks like the middle word could be custom. A google search of "powered by custom UVI engine" brings up the following page: www.electro-supply.com... This has links to some software that can be purchased that looks similar to Nodespaces.

I successfully translated a word lol.

In this article Article the word ogtik. Ogtik can be named gotik, which in german means gothic.

Yay for me.

reply to post by Kantzveldt


I believe this may interest you as it deals with a different approach to the psychology of possession and energy parasites (vortex vampires) now I know this has nothing to do with the language used by this odd sect but what if in the twilight zone that we live in but are mostly unaware of some of these entities are better adapted than others and can gain absolute control of there host to the point were they no longer feed on the host but feed through the host.
Also as long as they feed they avoid dissipating as the thread will explain, it may be possible that some of these ASTRAL FRAGMENTS are so complete as to also maintain a conscious memory and personality rather than simple traits and appetites.

Anyway here is the site that is sure to get some psychologically trained members wound up.
www.zaporacle.com...

Originally posted by Kantzveldt
reply to post by Raxoxane

 

Thanks, yes i think the intended applications of what they are developing could be out of this world...

edit on 13-7-2013 by Kantzveldt because: (no reason given)

First Contact situations with an assumed Alien Race has an inherent problem.
 If the aliens are incomprehensible, how will you communicate with them?
 
For that matter, how can you convince them that you are intelligent? The generally accepted universal signal of intelligence in this situation,  is the ability to produce a sequence of prime numbers-the idea is that they're too irregular to arise from any natural process (i.e., no mathematical equation is known that will produce them), but mathematically simple enough that it's assumed any intelligent being can recognize them as non-random. 
 
If you were to discover, lets say English, without knowing anything about it (except for maybe that it is an alphabetical language), or any related languages, how would you go about deciphering it?



 My thoughts on this matter are - in order to translate what the aliens are actually saying it may still be necessary to have a "code book" of some sort, a Rosetta stone if you wish,  where some of the many dead languages/dialects of our past history , spanning well over 100,000 years, coincides somewhere with the alien language.

Perhaps archeological groups funded by the government have unveiled such a stone/tablet and put this team in action. Perhaps this is an urgent business as a first contact might soon be at hand.

Anyways…all human languages have a "functional terminology" based on the formulation of a certain desire or intention to share a phenomenon of either form, sensation or otherwise.

To simplify things let's assume a fairly simplified version of English with only abstract concepts like squares, circles or triangles. If you had sentences like those found on the Cassini Disc, "A square consists of two triangles", "A triangle consists of three lines intersecting with each other", etc. how could one extract the meaning of those sentences without prior knowledge of the language?
 
In an alien language, analysing this imagery might make it possible to gauge how clever the authors of the message are. 
 
If they are much smarter than us, there would be a lot of words packed into the phrases of the found pictograph patterns on the Cassini stone, which mean that  an alien  language needs a minimum of visible symbols whether they are delivered into your consciousness via telepathy, sound or. visible pictographs on some form of tangible matter.

Originally posted by voudon
Some thoughts... If they are creating new languages using existing & forgotten languages, then what if the new language is also an encryption that has two different messages, two layers of code. A good example is when you type in a password to login, the password is generated into a new key, e.g ( EXAMPLEPASSWORD ) to ( *************** ). Now if the generated key was a little more diverse such as (**$*£$^**%^&**) you could then formulate a new language based on those generated symbols. Remember that the origin is still EXAMPLEPASSWORD so although I could write a story using the generated keys that make sense as an article for instance, I could still, with enough understanding of the logic drill down to the original alphanumeric password which created the the second layer.

I was able to google translate the asian scripts and several terms came up repeatedly on almost every page: Russia, South Ossetia.

I have a feeling like this website is not what it appears to be but a device for communicating cypher amongst members of an intelligence organization such as the CIA or SVR..

reply to post by clay2 baraka


I feel if that were the case they would just go with the Goth vampire story.
Instead, they have actual software one can presumably buy somewhere.

Also, getting Google to successfully translate one or two words per page does not a translation make.

How do these people learn these hidden languages ?

How the hell do they get into a position where they are actively involved with something so obscure from society.

Originally posted by JayinAR
I do not really see a link with vampires here of any sort. I am not sure why their site, and videos, have the gothic theme to them, but if I were to guess[b]it is just to further disguise their actual work.

Which seems like strange choice in an era of the Twilight phenomenon and on-line role-playing games. The style seems more like an attractant to me.

Anyways, thank you for the merciful recap...I'm still riveted.

reply to post by jonnyc55


If you are interested in learning a dead language, I found a book on their site that deals with that.
I reckon you could find that book and cross reference it to their forgotten books site and buy it.

reply to post by kosmicjack


That may also be true.
As I mentioned before, they seem to deal a lot with psychology.
Our correspondence here very well could be a part of their research.
Guaging our reactions to their language.

My pleasure on the recap. It is a lot of info really. I just tried to stick to the verified information.

ETA: I bet they are monitoring this thread.

reply to post by JayinAR

Thanks for the information.

reply to post by jonnyc55


No sweat. I would find it for ya, but there are literally thousands of entries on that site.
I spent hours looking at that site two nights ago. It is in there somewhere. So...good luck.

Actually, it would be much easier to just go straight to the forgotten books site and browse titles by category. *face palm*

reply to post by Kantzveldt

Let's compare the map from Konar Sandal B - Jiroft with another map found in The Dubai Museum


A historical map of the Persian Gulf in a Dubai museum
It looks to me like some mapmaker decided that the area where Kunar Sandal came from was mount Sinai. I wonder if there is a story there?

According to Robert Wright's book The Evolution of God the scribes writing the Exodus story were consciously trying to tie Israelites to the Assyrians as from a common stock, and away from Egypt. The very idea of receiving messages from a deity on a mountain could have come from more ancient sources that were available in the archives of Assyria.

Also of note: That area is located farther SouthSouthEast of what is considered to be the extent of the Elamite territory.

In the days of Gilgamesh, when the people of Uruk and Kish looked East across the Tigris, they were looking at a sacred plateau. That would seem to be Elam. Where was Enkidu created/dropped off again?

This may seem to be a lame admission to make, but my primary source of information about Romani roots happens to be the Piers Anthony Incarnations of Immortality series of fantasy novels. Lame! Right?

reply to post by JayinAR

Lol alright i do that.