Citizens Receiving Food Aid from Federal Gov't Now Outnumber Full-Time Private Sector Workers

Originally posted by HauntWok
reply to post by TDawgRex

 

So you don't get VA Benefits?

benefits.va.gov...

www.vethousingfund.org...

There you go. That's despite living off the taxpayer dime, having us pay for everything including clothing, food, weaponry, travel, medical care while in the military. Bunch of socialists with guns.

Unlike that 100 million Americans HE EARNED THEM.

Hell ALL VETERANS EARN THEM

And while we are on this subject it is easier/faster for a civilian to get welfare than a VETERAN to get their duly earned benefits.

reply to post by HauntWok


My father gets VA benefits to pay for the diabetes that was caused by his exposure to agent orange in Vietnam. In my opinion the vets and soldiers that have been repeatedly lied to and used as pawns deserve some respect and restitution.

Originally posted by Im2keul
reply to post by OptimusCrime

 

. . . if every state did what Florida did and made people take drug tests before they could get anything for free, you would see how fast that number on food stamps would drop. People are getting used to being supported by the government and hard working citizens tax money and becoming lazy.




Why not? You take one prior to employment, right?


Actually in Florida, the program cost the state more than they saved, not a good example.

Not just the US..I wonder when Africa will be holding a Concert for the west..
www.independent.co.uk...

reply to post by Privateinquotations

It would actually end up costing the taxpayers more than it's worth. Those tests are expensive to conduct.
No Savings Are Found From Welfare Drug Tests
It just throws away money there are ways to beat the tests also only 2.6% failed the tests wouldn't really make a dent.

That's a shame. I guess the effort here and there beats making a daily effort at a job.
( All in the family theme plays)

reply to post by neo96


Why? Why did he EARN them? He volunteered. He got paid for that time. Why do I as a taxpayer have to CONTINUE to pay for a job he already did? Do I get paid for a job I have already gotten paid for after the job is done? No, its a huge waste of taxpayer dollars.

Originally posted by Cancerwarrior

Originally posted by tinker9917
This is what PISSES ME OFF... I know a 19 year old girl, going to college and on her own with no help from parents. living in condo with three others. She works 15-20 hrs per week, best job she could find. Applied for food stamps till she could get more hours at work or find a better job. She was DENIED because she was going to college. If she was working part-time and sitting on her butt the rest of the time she could get food stamps!

So, we give food stamps to the ones just working part-time and sitting the rest, but the ones working while trying to get a college degree are screwed

Actually, No.

You have to have kids/dependents in LA. If you are single you get nothing.

I get 300 dollars a month snap. And its barely enough to feed my wife and I. I'm on disability too. I'm sure that angers all the folks on here I see screaming about entitlements and whatnot.

It would be nice if folks keep in mind that there are people that genuinely need these programs. Young girls that can afford college really don't.

Yes, Colorado law. I actually tried to help her find loop-hole so I do know. Single people can get up to $200 per month in Colorado.

AFFORD College? Have you checked the price of college and student loans? She is studying Microbiology to make something of herself, not fast-food frying! She actually wants to contribute to society and make something of herself, NOT work fast food for minimum wage the rest of her life and be a leach.

Shouldn't the Government help her now for a few months? Or should she quit school, work for minimum wage and collect low-income benefits the rest of her life?

Her Microbiology degree/job will help pay for your SNAP benefits the rest of your "disabled" life. OR, maybe she could serve you at McDonalds instead.

Originally posted by HauntWok
reply to post by neo96

 

Why? Why did he EARN them? He volunteered. He got paid for that time. Why do I as a taxpayer have to CONTINUE to pay for a job he already did? Do I get paid for a job I have already gotten paid for after the job is done? No, its a huge waste of taxpayer dollars.

That was hiliarious it really is then then why do I have to pay for 100 million Americans who are doing absolutely nothing for that money.

That is a huge waste of my money.

reply to post by Im2keul

He's one of the most hard working people you would ever have the honor to meet. Always the first one to drop what he's doing and help anyone out. he also volunteers his time to community projects. He helps feed the poor in the community by personally delivering food. So, yeah he has earned it. He's not sitting around looking for handouts. Troll harder.

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Update! The VA loan is not free. They back the loan IF you have decent credit. But you still have to pay it off.

Kind of the same with the GI Bill. You have to keep a certain GPA if you want to keep recieving the benifit.

You can't just sit on your butt for either. You still have to work for those benifits.

I will admit for luring you in and for that I do apoligize, but do some research first before knocking down our Vets.

And I will admit to not being a big fan of the VA as well, they are a dysfunctional overbloated mess. If anyone is sitting on their ass, I would say it is them.

reply to post by neo96


All I was doing was using the conservative argument against you. You found it hilarious.

Now you might understand.

reply to post by HauntWok


You seem to forget about this little thing called a DRAFT! Not all military personnel volunteered, as you so claim. Even if they did, it was because of a sense of duty for YOU and me. You think these young kids signing up are aware of just how far the government has taken things? No, they are lied to and propagandized all through their youth. So, reserve your petty judgements.

Originally posted by Privateinquotations
reply to post by Im2keul

 

He's one of the most hard working people you would ever have the honor to meet. Always the first one to drop what he's doing and help anyone out. he also volunteers his time to community projects. He helps feed the poor in the community by personally delivering food. So, yeah he has earned it. He's not sitting around looking for handouts. Troll harder.

This was not the post I replied to, seems as I type slow, others had made posts. Post edited

I in no way dis agree with VA benefits.

Originally posted by Cancerwarrior
Seriously?


All of this is orchestrated. I am convinced of it. What the end result will be I have no idea.

The end of the empire, but unfortunately the ones responsible will have disappeared with their ill gotten gains to start again from a position of financial wealth..

Originally posted by HauntWok
reply to post by neo96

 

Why? Why did he EARN them? He volunteered. He got paid for that time. Why do I as a taxpayer have to CONTINUE to pay for a job he already did? Do I get paid for a job I have already gotten paid for after the job is done? No, its a huge waste of taxpayer dollars.

It was in the contract, just like a union person working for the AFL-CIO. And just like them, my benefits are being attacked and reduced.

I didn't do three years, I did over thirty. My body is pretty banged up because of my service and I would do it again to keep others from having to go.

You want to talk about tax dollars, failed R&D projects, one after the other. That's a waste. It's also a waste to pay healthy people to do nothing to contribute.

I'm not saying just kick our fellow humans to the curb. But there needs to be a criteria of some sort that is better than what we have now.

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Fair enough, thought you was talkin bout my deddy.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by beezzer

 

The fact is, government controls the regulations, the laws, the rules that companies live by. Government interference into the housing market, the medical market have done more harm for the entire economy than any "greedy" company.

That is absolutely the truth and after all that punishment is why there are 100 million people on the government dime, that is not counting other government perks that the IRS 'classfies' as income.

Rinse and Repeat and vilify business for some odd reason they can't fathom the reality after the decades of 'government help' -people are not better off, but worse off.

But who was it that created all these regulations to squash out competition?
Who was it that created all these laws or dispelled laws?
Who created OTC Derivatives and repelled Glas Steagall?

It was politicians that hail from Big Banks and Corporations that passed it and it was the Banking and Corporate Industry that wrote it.

Joe Six Pack has no money to buy politicians but the elite at the top do!

It will all come crashing down some day and people like you will say it was the fought of the poor and middle class that don't own the politicians.

Let it crash! Those that don't have anything to begin with will not feel the loss.
Those that base their self worth on Money will be jumping out 50 story windows.

Originally posted by Privateinquotations
reply to post by Im2keul

 

Fair enough, thought you was talkin bout my deddy.

Not at all, I shall use Quote button more

Originally posted by HauntWok
reply to post by neo96

 

All I was doing was using the conservative argument against you. You found it hilarious.

Now you might understand.

Sorry that was not a conservative argument now this is a conservative argument:

People want government programs pay for them by the people who use them the most and then as to veteran benefits:

PAy close attention to this:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

'Provide for the common defense' that means VETERANS.

Some people just love the next part, but have no clue of what it means promote the general welfare as in peace so that people can go to work,school, and all the other things they love to do.

Not rob from the rich to the poor can go out and buy more corporate products that creates trillions dollars in debt that has become a detriment to the wealth and prosperity of this country.

In short the power of taxation was given to the government to fund itself that means veterans not US.

Popular misconception todays progressives can't seem to grasp, and honestly all they do is recycle 100 year old talking points.

See the above comment?

That is a conservative argument.

Flipping channels just saw on the news that Wal-Mart cancelled opening 3 stores because of chicago legislation for a living wage. So because people were trying to force a company to conform to the legislation a several hundred people are out of the opportunity for a job. and the state lost out on a ton of revenue.