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The UFO hung over the driver side of the car for a time before it moved ahead of it on the highway. As it did, a bluish-white light shot into the car, lighting up the interior of the vehicle. Later, Mrs. Smith would describe the inside of their car as being filled with "a haze like air, sort of a fog." In a second, all three women suffered from a burning sensation so strong that they could not open their eyes from the irritation. The last thing in the memory of Smith, Stafford, and Thomas was being backed into a pasture entrance in a "crazy manner." The entry was flanked on both sides by an old stone wall. One hour and 20 minutes later, the three found themselves back in the little Chevy, again driving toward Liberty. They were shaken and tense with exposed areas of flesh; painful from the burns.
A detective for the Lexington Police Department, James Young was hired to head the polygraph part of the session. Recognized as an expert in the field, Young began his testing of the three women, all done privately for each of the three. Young was actually a great choice for the sessions, because he was a skeptic as far as UFO stories went. The tests themselves were lengthy, leaving no room for anything but a conclusive result, whether good or bad. After the tests were all completed, Young emerged from the room with an expression of utter amazement. All three of the women had "breezed through" their tests without a hint of deception. To his credit, Young was man enough to admit that his earlier prejudices were completely erased after the testing of the three women. Next would come Dr. Sprinkle's hypnotic session.
In all cases, no matter how believable, it always helps if other witnesses come forward. This case also had other observers of the UFO that night, independent of Stafford, Smith, and Thomas. These sightings occurred in Casey and Lincoln counties, Kentucky.
Within a couple of hundred yards of the abduction, one couple watched from the window of their home a "large, luminous object," which passed over the Stanford area. This occurred about 11:30 P.M. The couple wanted to remain anonymous. Other observers reported also, describing a ring of "reddish orange" lights around a disc-shaped flying object. Two teenagers, out for a joy ride, stated that they chased a low-flying UFO after it had hovered over the Angel Manufacturing Plant in Stanford. They chased the strange object all the way to Danville, and there they reported the object to Police.
Another very significant report came from the owner of the property where the three women's abduction took place. The farmer stated that "down the road" from his house, he witnessed an unusually low-flying object which shot a white beam of light to the ground.
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The farmer stated that "down the road" from his house, he witnessed an unusually low-flying object which shot a white beam of light to the ground.
Originally posted by cklein61
Thanks, it was my first thread on here.
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Originally posted by Latrodectus
In most cases I am rather leery of abductee reports with the exception of a few like Travis Waltons and these ladies and a few other worth mention. I just run into so few plausible accounts from people who I would consider trust worthy individuals, but every now and then you run across one of these with witness corroboration that are very hard to discount. I myself am not a fan of hypnotic regression "therapy" and consider most aspects of psychology subjective and "scientifically soft" but having had some experience with polygraph examinations I have a much better feeling toward them. So I consider polygraph testimony (especially newer testimony and testing because of advancements in that field and associated technologies) a valid form of testing especially when multiple polygraphs have been performed. Id never heard of this story before now. its really interesting and warrants in my mind, a little more investigation. thanks for the post!
Originally posted by Latrodectus
reply to post by g2v12
Ya man I don't know the answer to that but im sure there are a lot. But personally ive seen very little convincing evidence that the abduction model is what it seems to be at face value, and not caused by some internal physiological or psychological issues, but its these keystone cases that really give me pause and make me wonder about the phenomenon. Just when I think I have it figured out...........................
Originally posted by Latrodectus
I'm unfamiliar with the alegheny event. Ill have to do some research on that one. as far as shared dreams and psychological issues are concerned, it compelling as far as a story goes but I cant take it too seriously as far as evidence is concerned (personally) because that type of data is really sort of intangible and I need some "material" to chew on. I am reminded of a lecture by Terrence McKenna where he was talking about sessions with orally active '___' (ayahuasca) where participants would regularly share hallucinations and talk about the colors and textures of a certain moment in their visions. Stuff like that just shows me that theres so little we know about our psychology and the possibilities we possess that things like shared visions don't seem to be that uncommon in certain circumstances and shouldn't be trusted as legit data, even if you absolutely 100 percent believe the person telling you the story. Its interesting, but Ill need a little more. I remember Bud Hopkins got himself into a little hot water when people started to show that people could "remember" abductions through suggestion under hypnosis even though no such things had ever occurred.
Originally posted by Latrodectus
Truthfully, Im uncertain how I would answer that question. I certainly wouldn't call them liars, but I would have to take everything they told me even under hypnosis with a grain of salt due to the abundance of stories out there from people whom I would categorize as highly suspicious. Now I don't completely discount that a physical phenomenon is occurring, but those real, hard to refute, corroborated stories are few and far between.
I am familiar with Mack, and respect both his research and his credentials. Hyneck however is another story completely. I take almost everything he says with a grain of salt because of his wildly differing positions throughout his career. And yes, the Hill's story is remarkable and probably one of the best cases we have out there to look back on. But they were keystone! people like Hopkins took that scenario and ran the phenomenon into the ground. Hopkins and people like him, (in my mind) are the Ken Keseys of the UFO world. I feel they've done more damage than good. That's why with the acception of a few cases I really try to ignore the abduction phenomenon (even though I believe there is something there) and look to UFO sightings more often instead.
Originally posted by g2v12
Originally posted by Latrodectus
reply to post by g2v12
Ya man I don't know the answer to that but im sure there are a lot. But personally ive seen very little convincing evidence that the abduction model is what it seems to be at face value, and not caused by some internal physiological or psychological issues, but its these keystone cases that really give me pause and make me wonder about the phenomenon. Just when I think I have it figured out...........................
I have come to believe that the data we have of the abductee's perceptions of (what might very well be physical and psychological) contact has been falsely interpreted as being a purely psycho-spiritual phenomenon, as even John Edward Mack M.D. may have faltered by the nature of his work. And we find this tendency to portray such events through a one or two dimensional perspective by the scientists Jacques Fabrice Vallée and his mentor Dr Allen Hynek.
I just feel it is too much of a stretch for people (even scientists) to imagine non-humans with instruments that can utilize ubiquitous elements to the effect of literally controlling the brains of human subjects in such a profound manner. Nevertheless, one might consider the symmetry of the brain and what basic natural forces could be employed to effect or control it. Especially when considering that Alpha waves are neural oscillations in the frequency range of 8–12 Hz.
It may be so simple and startling a revelation, that even the most educated among us would find this impossible to imagine or accept.
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