Louisiana Republican Introduces Bill To Ban LGBT Rainbow Flag From Public Buildings

Originally posted by KingIcarus
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Why does it matter if a minority group decides to fly a flag for their 'cause'?

Surely as long as every group (within legality, of course) are free to fly their own flag too if they wish, it doesn't matter a jot.

It is only a flag, at the end of the day.

Well, that's a grand thought and a wonderful way to sidestep an issue. If the flag is so silly and meaningless, why insist on flying it at all?

The fact of the matter is that WE CANNOT just fly any old thing we like for any cause that strikes our fancy at a Government building, either state or federal. Even well established flags with meaning, purpose and deep U.S. history for their place, like the Gadsden Flag, get challenged for their right to exist on a Government/Public Flag Pole along side the American or other flags.

So this idea that "well, gee, anyone can fly anything so why not this?" Is very badly informed of the issue relating to just HOW tightly controlled and regulated through endless court cases this actually IS for what is flown on US public property.

Originally posted by KingIcarus
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Why does it matter if a minority group decides to fly a flag for their 'cause'?

Surely as long as every group (within legality, of course) are free to fly their own flag too if they wish, it doesn't matter a jot.

It is only a flag, at the end of the day.

Oh My.......

I can see the Communist flag fluttering over the Top of the White House.

reply to post by LightOrange


Okay, what is that flag doing on government buildings in the first place?

It's funny because it's hardly even an endorsement of anything.

They flew the flag at the park where the pride event was being held; likely so people would be able to recognize where it was being held.

If they didn't fly the flag, and this moron walked through the park with his young children (and heterosexuality is oh-so fragile as we are all told so often), I'm sure there would've been a complaint about not being warned that the gays were in the park.

Maybe republicans should just stay inside on the week of the 26th.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by LightOrange

 

Okay, what is that flag doing on government buildings in the first place?

A park is not a building.

Why don't you read the article instead of asking me such a ridiculously asinine question.

It was a gay pride event.

I'd like to say I can't believe you got a star for that idiotic post but then again this is ATS. Propagating ignorance.

reply to post by sonnny1

Oh My....... I can see the Communist flag fluttering over the Top of the White House.

Watch out for that Slippery Slope......Fallacy.

Originally posted by LightOrange

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by LightOrange

 

Okay, what is that flag doing on government buildings in the first place?

A park is not a building.

Why don't you read the article instead of asking me such a ridiculously asinine question.

It was a gay pride event.

edit on 8-7-2013 by LightOrange because: (no reason given)

Perhaps the title of the thread should be edited then? Geesh.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by LightOrange

 

Okay, what is that flag doing on government buildings in the first place?

Good question, there are instances where the American flag being flown is opposed, maybe we are going through a transitionary period.

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by sonnny1

 

Oh My....... I can see the Communist flag fluttering over the Top of the White House.

Watch out for that Slippery Slope......Fallacy.

Tongue and Cheek, my friend.............Comedy.

Originally posted by LightOrange
It's funny because it's hardly even an endorsement of anything.

They flew the flag at the park where the pride event was being held; likely so people would be able to recognize where it was being held.

If they didn't fly the flag, and this moron walked through the park with his young children (and heterosexuality is oh-so fragile as we are all told so often), I'm sure there would've been a complaint about not being warned that the gays were in the park.

Maybe republicans should just stay inside on the week of the 26th.

Who owned the flag pole?

reply to post by sonnny1

Oh My....... I can see the Communist flag fluttering over the Top of the White House.

Or a google flag.



That made me laugh out loud,

reply to post by LightOrange


Personally, I don't see an issue except that there is a lot politics and a resulting imbalance.

Can a state fly any of a number of older Confederate flags (there are many) on public soil without someone demanding they be taken down?

Flags are basically symbols and like all symbols, they have different meanings for different people. Some will approve, others won't. Some use history as reasons to rail against them, some use heritage as a reason in favor.

Not everyone agrees with everyone else so there is bound to be controversy regardless. If we disallow one, should we not disallow all and once we do, then do we someday see our own national flag disappear?

For instance: can a person fly an American flag without fear in some of the more reclusive private and closeted subdivisions where neighborhood soviets must approve such?

When do we finally put political correctness to bed?

It is really silly. We either learn to accept that not everyone sees every flag like we do and accept that those differences not only exist... but are healthy... or someday, there will be no flags one can fly without someone getting their undies in a wad.

Originally posted by Kali74
I don't agree with the veterans reasonings behind it however I agree that any nongovernmental flag shouldn't be hanging on public flag poles. Think about in reverse, if it were a KKK flag or anti-gay flag. Government isn't supposed to represent any group over another. This has nothing to do with gay rights, even though the sentiment behind the complaint is anti-gay.

Irregardless of the bigotry that is prompting this local legislation, State buildings should only symbolize the state. If the councilman were to selectively exclude the rainbow flag, I would have a problem with this, but he sounds like a reasonable bigot.

So I take it government buildings shouldn't hand out poppies on Memorial day, then?

Not everyone agrees with the military, after all.

reply to post by LightOrange


Where in the United States do you see Poppies being handed out on Memorial Day? In my 39 years in this nation, I've never once seen a Poppy handed out by anyone for anything related to that date?

*Nvm.. I just looked it up. Interesting tradition. Apparently not all that well known? All I knew of Poppies was one type makes heroin and picking another type got ya law enforcement issues in California (protected plant and all).

In the end though? What does that have to do with flying a flag on public property, on a public flag pole when it's actually a very touchy and restricted thing for what can ever go up those poles for any reason, whatsoever?

Very simply put.... When THIS stops happening by narrow minded, politically bigoted little twits:

The United Veterans Memorial & Patriotic Association is fighting a New York town for the right to fly the Gadsden flag bearing the phrase, “Don’t Tread On Me.”

The veterans group had flown the flag, used by the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps since 1775, at the New Rochelle Armory, but the city council claimed it was an offensive Tea Party symbol and voted to have the flag removed.

Source

.....in violation of the true MAJORITY of this nation? Well, when that stops, I may be a hair more tolerant about the flags of super-minorities going where even majority supported, historic flags cannot fly.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Is there a US Navy event or something held in the park that would justify flying the Gadsden flag?

If there is, fly it. If someone is offended, they can avoid the park.

Notice how its always the baby boomers who are at the forefront of anti-gay stories?

Just a few more years folks. Just a few more years.

i'm reading the article and what point did it say it was on a Government building?

thinkprogress.org...

In celebration of National Pride Month and the demise of the Defense of Marriage Act last month, members of the LGBT community in Lafayette, Louisiana gathered in Girard Park for the annual Pride in the Park celebration. Local paper The Daily Advertiser was there to cover the event, and ran a photo in the next day’s paper of participants hoisting the rainbow flag that has come to represent the LGBT community.

they want to ban flying the Rainbow flag and any other non government flag in Public places, talk about totalitarian

and you say us Homosexuals have an agenda

LGBT flags have nothing to do on government buildings. You want to fly that in your yard? I'm all for that. However, our government should be neutral when it comes to your sexual preferences as well as religious preferences.

Take it down and ban the usage of all such things in the government. It serves no real purpose.

reply to post by LightOrange


More on this:

He expects the ordinance would allow only the flying of American, Louisiana and Acadian/LCG flags, and possibly Mardi Gras flags, on LCG property.

www.theadvertiser.com...

If we're not just talking about LGBT flags, but also none government flags in general, then I don't see issue. If people will enforce the law equally when it comes to religious flags and ideological flags (communist, tea party) then this is understandable.