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Originally posted by StargateSG7
June 30, 2013 11:00pm PST close to Vancouver British Columbia, Canada
Walking with Girl Friend at Como Lake, in Coquitlam BC Canada
Google MAPS GPS coordinate: 49.261405,-122.857566
Was looking at stars and noticed a fast moving highly luminous light
directly overhead going South to North direction which made a
very obvious and CONTROLLED COURSE CORRECTION
THere's no other physical details that I can give other than
what I phsycially saw and the very rough calculations on altitude
and airspeed. Plotting the course of the craft on google maps
gives me the Utah to Alaska to Kara Sea recon run so I am
guessing this is an OPERATIONAL craft rather than a test bed!
Originally posted by clay2 baraka
I saw the exact same thing a few years back, high speed, luminous, lower than a satellite and not following normal aircraft traffic patterns.edit on 7/1/2013 by clay2 baraka because: (no reason given)
Would you mind telling us what a "normal flight pattern" means to you. The whole idea behind ADS-B, GPS Nav, and INS V-Nav is to avoid the congestion caused by flight patterns.
Originally posted by Trillium
The NSA should be at your door step in
9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1,
Sir could your step outside please
Originally posted by F4guy
Originally posted by clay2 baraka
I saw the exact same thing a few years back, high speed, luminous, lower than a satellite and not following normal aircraft traffic patterns.edit on 7/1/2013 by clay2 baraka because: (no reason given)
Would you mind telling us what a "normal flight pattern" means to you. The whole idea behind ADS-B, GPS Nav, and INS V-Nav is to avoid the congestion caused by flight patterns.
Most high altitude traffic (in my area) runs a north south route between airports. It is highly unusual to see anything else, much less a brilliant craft that can cover horizon to horizon in under a minute at high altitude.edit on 7/1/2013 by clay2 baraka because: (no reason given)
The early Russian origins theory was rejected by Swedish, British, and U.S. military investigators because no recognizable rocket fragments were ever found, and according to some sightings the objects usually left no exhaust trail, some moved too slowly and usually flew horizontally, they sometimes traveled and maneuvered in formation, and they were usually silent.
The sightings most often consisted of fast-flying rocket- or missile- shaped objects, with or without wings, visible for mere seconds. Instances of slower moving cigar shaped objects are also known. A hissing or rumbling sound was sometimes reported.
Originally posted by clay2 baraka
Originally posted by F4guy
Originally posted by clay2 baraka
I saw the exact same thing a few years back, high speed, luminous, lower than a satellite and not following normal aircraft traffic patterns.edit on 7/1/2013 by clay2 baraka because: (no reason given)
Would you mind telling us what a "normal flight pattern" means to you. The whole idea behind ADS-B, GPS Nav, and INS V-Nav is to avoid the congestion caused by flight patterns.
Most high altitude traffic (in my area) runs a north south route between airports. It is highly unusual to see anything else, much less a brilliant craft that can cover horizon to horizon in under a minute at high altitude.edit on 7/1/2013 by clay2 baraka because: (no reason given)
There are 3 very busy high altitude jet routes (J-500, J-508, and J-514 than run east/west over the Vancouver area. For example a direct (great circle) routing from Dallas to Tokyo goes right over Vancouver.
Originally posted by F4guy
Originally posted by clay2 baraka
Originally posted by F4guy
Originally posted by clay2 baraka
I saw the exact same thing a few years back, high speed, luminous, lower than a satellite and not following normal aircraft traffic patterns.edit on 7/1/2013 by clay2 baraka because: (no reason given)
Would you mind telling us what a "normal flight pattern" means to you. The whole idea behind ADS-B, GPS Nav, and INS V-Nav is to avoid the congestion caused by flight patterns.
Most high altitude traffic (in my area) runs a north south route between airports. It is highly unusual to see anything else, much less a brilliant craft that can cover horizon to horizon in under a minute at high altitude.edit on 7/1/2013 by clay2 baraka because: (no reason given)
There are 3 very busy high altitude jet routes (J-500, J-508, and J-514 than run east/west over the Vancouver area. For example a direct (great circle) routing from Dallas to Tokyo goes right over Vancouver.
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MY answer:
Those high overhead flights are usually anywhere from 30,000 to 37,000 feet depending on aircraft type
(B747, A380 or B777) and of course as you said run East/West for the most part. This craft was MUCH
HIGHER than 35,000 ft and ran South to North and then BANKED to Northwest (a VERY LONG BANK)
taking much longer to turn than the usual 2 to 10 km that a normal jet would.
At 70 km in 10 seconds this object was FAST....!!!
And MOST satellites I know doesn't go from almost TRUE polar orbit to Northwest polar orbit
in the span of 10 seconds. The propulsion MASS that would be needed would make that type
orbit "correction" of a low-orbit (less than few thousand km) satellite impossible to lift off the ground.
Sorry! But the laws of physics (i.e. Inertia) get in the way of that idea!
I think I'll stick with my idea of an outer-hull flowing gaseous fuel (likely hydrogen) ignited and
trapped between an outer laminar airflow or plasma sheath and the probably Aluminum Oxide-ceramic
composite hull creating a ramjet/scramjet-like propulsion system AND also creating
a long frontal plasma sheath that helps push any other atmosphere out of the way for that
MACH 24 super-cruise!!!
If I see that dull white or maroon van with the obligatory two 55+ Grey-Bearded Baby Boomers
parked outside of my office in the alley in the next few days, I'll know my "guesses" were correct!edit on 2013/7/2 by StargateSG7 because: additions...