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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by GoldenVoyager
Wait for the amnesty bill and the millions that will fall into the welfare system and you and me and all the hard working tax payer paying for their fee health care.
Revolution is what this nation needs.
Originally posted by muse7
I don't put much stock into editorial pieces. Until "Obamacare" is fully implemented and when we get some factual numbers then we can decide whether or not it's a failure or a success. Until then I'll continue to dismiss the countless editorial pieces that have been posted here demonizing Obamacare.
Originally posted by buster2010
Originally posted by nighthawk1954
I am a Independent Insurance Broker in Connecticut. My maine bussines is health insurance to small bussineses.In the past year I have lost %70 of my clients do to the high rising cost of Heath Insurance in this state do to Obamacare! So many companies have just gone belly up do to the high cost and the economy.
I have been to a few meetings with some of the carriers I do bussines with and they all say the same thing...rates can rise by as much as %80 by next year.
I am know looking for a new career.
You complain the Obamacare is to blame for rates going up for the past year even though it isn't in effect yet. Obamacare isn't the blame the greedy insurance companies are the blame.
You complain the Obamacare is to blame for rates going up for the past year even though it isn't in effect yet. Obamacare isn't the blame the greedy insurance companies are the blame.
Originally posted by Cabin
I can not get why even trouble with the insurance companies... Just a middle man. Why not just lose them and use a tax, which would ensure universal healthcare, certain % from everybody´s salary, which go directly to hospitals and doctors through government.
For example, here I pay 7,5% of my salary for the health care. Whatever happens, whatever tests I need, the only cost for anything is once-only visitation fee, which I pay when I visit doctor for the first time, every other visitation is for free, including all the tests I need. For example, during the last year, I have gotten a total of around 30 blood tests (had some issues) , once MRI and 4 times x-ray - sports injuries. Total cost of everything - 5 euros + the taxes I paid. Two years ago, I got a surgery, I had a bad injury, so needed one. The doctor was world-class - other patients include olympic sportsmen, national teams etc - total cost 5 euros + one night of hospital stay - 15 euros - during the first visitation. Waiting period - 2 weeks till the surgery.
That is how the system works round here. There are no insurance companies, everybody pays 7,5% of their salary and receive as much health care as they need, whenever there is a need without worrying about any extra significant extra costs. No worries about whether insurance covers something or not, no worries about whether they can afford it. Simple, but works well and does not bankrupt any person or the country (one of lowest national debts in the world).
I just wonder why US does not take any advice from already well-working systems in EU nations. These are far more cost-effective, do not bankrupt the country - the only losers in these scenarios are the insurance companies who have no insurances to sell and profit from.When there is a middle man, the prices are always higher...
Originally posted by buster2010
You complain the Obamacare is to blame for rates going up for the past year even though it isn't in effect yet. Obamacare isn't the blame the greedy insurance companies are the blame.
Originally posted by JIMC5499
reply to post by tinker9917
Sure pay your 7.5%. What happens when the Govenment tells you that you can 't have the life saving proceedure you need because you are a registered Republican? Don't laugh. Look who got to keep their GM dealerships.