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He's number 1 in my book. If you do not have him as #2 or # 3 then wtf?
Originally posted by darkstar111
Fact... Bush and a republican congress approved the patriot act.
Fact... Obama upheld the patriot act and signed the NDAA with a Democrat Congress
Fact... They Both suck!!!edit on 28-6-2013 by darkstar111 because: errorr
It is the sense of Congress that providers of electronic communications services and manufacturers of electronic communications service equipment shall ensure that communications systems permit the government to obtain the plain text contents of voice, data, and other communications when appropriately authorized by law.
The next year, months before the Oklahoma City bombing took place, Biden introduced another bill called the Omnibus Counterterrorism Act of 1995. It previewed the 2001 Patriot Act by allowing secret evidence to be used in prosecutions, expanding the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and wiretap laws, creating a new federal crime of "terrorism" that could be invoked based on political beliefs, permitting the U.S. military to be used in civilian law enforcement, and allowing permanent detection of non-U.S. citizens without judicial review. The Center for National Security Studies said the bill would erode "constitutional and statutory due process protections" and would "authorize the Justice Department to pick and choose crimes to investigate and prosecute based on political beliefs and associations."
After the April 19, 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, a domestic terrorist bomb attack that destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, Biden drafted anti-terrorist legislation, which was ultimately defeated. He later claimed publicly on several occasions that the USA PATRIOT Act – which eased restrictions on the Executive branch in the surveillance and detention of those suspected of terrorism or facilitating it – was essentially a duplicate of the anti-terrorist legislation he had drafted years earlier.[3
Originally posted by bbracken677
Originally posted by sealing
More scandals than any other president?
Do you have the shortest attention span ever?
Oh sorry I see..you mean made up scandals.
How about a list of what he HASNT done?
1.Turned the USA commie.
2.Taken away your Guns
3.Turned the USA Socialist.
4.Put your children in Black Panther daycare.
5.Used his secret Muslim ring to bring about sharia law
6.Ended Christianity.
7.Wrecked the economy.
(On the contrary, highest stock market ever)
8.Started two wars & put them on the charge card.
9.made himself permanent dictator.
All these things,except #8 were believed by many conservatives
to most certainly have happened by now in his second term.
He's got a lot of work to do in the next 2 1/2 years...
Under achiever I guess.
Umm....your assessment of the economy is incredibly wrong. The economy is not measured by the stock market.
With regards to the socialized the country...not totally, but what about Govt Motors? (GM) and then there is the health care snafu...this will lead to socialized health care and the decimation of our health care system.
Your list is hardly something to commend a president for, in fact, it's more a joke than anything and I sincerely hope that was your intent.
Err...made up scandals? I see...so even though the IRS has admitted to the scandal, it really isn't so. Likewise with the NSA, even though they have admitted to unconstitutional actions, it's just made up, right? Let's see....there is the AP spying scandal, also proven ...but just made up, right? Bugging the cloak room in the House of Reps...that was just made up fiction too, right?
Do you have any kool-aid left after all that you have guzzled?
edit on 28-6-2013 by bbracken677 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SuicideBankers
Truly! The best part of these post is watching people fight about which corrupted puppet is/was better! Thats entertainment!
To put the decay of America all on one presidency is ignorant party politics. The American government is and has been corrupted for many many generations. Americas political hero's died long ago along with the American dream.
Originally posted by casablanca887
Originally posted by SuicideBankers
Truly! The best part of these post is watching people fight about which corrupted puppet is/was better! Thats entertainment!
To put the decay of America all on one presidency is ignorant party politics. The American government is and has been corrupted for many many generations. Americas political hero's died long ago along with the American dream.
So you mean the corruption of the US goverment is a general and unevitalbe trend and we shouldn't blame anyone for this (including people personally added and have been adding fuel to the flame) and just fold our arms to see this goverment becoming more and more corrupted and this nation going down more and more. I think it is not a responsible way of thinking to the country or at least it is not the mindset of a patriot. And it is very dangerous for US if all of its citizens have the same thoughts like you.edit on 29-6-2013 by casablanca887 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by casablanca887
Originally posted by EA006
reply to post by casablanca887
And some Americans still can't put their finger on the problem...................
Yes, because they blindly put their belief in their leaders without being aware that the problem lies exactly where they put their belief.