Sen. Menendez Threatens Ecuador with sanctions over Snowden

Emigrate, even if it just temporary. Nice big brain drain. Give up usa citezenship. That create a nice big problem for irs as they do not get your yearly taxes. It also create a problem for border controll and others as now you have to find the people you need from overseas, you cant trust them, they need to be surveilanced to sht, there is a good chance they will steal your tech secrets and the goverment need to explain the huge rise in immigrants. That is if you can find people who want to work in usa if the uneducated low paying illigals are going home in droves i guess it will be a lot more difficult to find highly trained people.
Always excuses why you cant.
Work too much - how long you think you still gonna have that job
Ows - sing and dance shouting cumbaya till it gets cold or uncomfortable and then go home aint gonna do it. You need a proper revolution. Destabilize #. It worked in the middle east. You will not solve this problem without an uprising and unfortunately lifes will be lost. That is the price you pay for freedom. Real freedom. And freedom does not = dollars in the bank. I am sertain that there is no country in the world with more guns in private hands that in the usa. Use them. Your country was found on the will of the people and their resovle and willingness to fight for what they want.

Being an Ecuadorian, Im pretty proud of how the gov't here is handling things with the US. We left the ATPDE today as a response to the US' blackmailing.. take that hahaha..

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
What a complete idiot. I take it the Senator hasn't been to a grocery store or had to attend a funeral in recent times? Well sure, I have no doubt the American consumer will be happy to endure the higher costs for flowers (which are ANYTHING but cheap right now to start with) as well as broccoli. Someone eats the stuff right? I hauled enough of it up from the Mexican border at certain times of the year.

I figured this is what would come and his voice will probably become a chorus soon enough. It's why I feared Iceland may take him. Ecuador has already taken measures to becoming US sanction resistant. They had to have for their long term accommodations for Assange at their Embassy. Iceland on the other hand... Well, they could have been real badly hurt by what may come next in all short of military talk.

I can't see it going that far (unless there is a black clad rendition team in the wee hours of the morning...that's absolutely possible). Economically though? I think this can get real real ugly. It depends on how petty and short sighted some are willing to be, IMO.

I hate Broccoli, but I guess many love it. Funny enough, and overall Ecuador is pretty US friendly. Now you get a dickhead spouting in advance against a humanitarian country, and an original signee to the UN*. I tell you what though, I will start eating Broccoli big time, I will probably start eating flowers too as well as growing them.

*1945 Original 51 Members
Argentina, Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Ethiopia, France, Greece, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Liberia, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippine Republic, Poland, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, Union of South Africa, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay, Venezuela, Yugoslavia.

Originally posted by nunoyobiz
Being an Ecuadorian, Im pretty proud of how the gov't here is handling things with the US. We left the ATPDE today as a response to the US' blackmailing.. take that hahaha..

That agreement expires next month anyway. Focus on the good exports of Ecuador that may be in jeopardy.
While Colombia and Peru have free trade agreements, Ecuador has a tax reduced agreement, courtesy the ATPDEA.
You should be proud of how Ecuador conducts itself however.

Originally posted by smurfy

Originally posted by nunoyobiz
Being an Ecuadorian, Im pretty proud of how the gov't here is handling things with the US. We left the ATPDE today as a response to the US' blackmailing.. take that hahaha..

That agreement expires next month anyway. Focus on the good exports of Ecuador that may be in jeopardy.
While Colombia and Peru have free trade agreements, Ecuador has a tax reduced agreement, courtesy the ATPDEA.
You should be proud of how Ecuador conducts itself however.

I can't find a recent link to this and have some questions. If expiring was it going to be renewed? If so its significant perhaps that it was cancelled unless by next month that means 3 days. I would just like to see how this is written (in definace of US, etc). Or if someone can clarify as it may be too new to have hit the Media. Thanks.

Why aren't other countries threatening the U.S. with sanctions, exactly?

Originally posted by nunoyobiz
Being an Ecuadorian, Im pretty proud of how the gov't here is handling things with the US. We left the ATPDE today as a response to the US' blackmailing.. take that hahaha..

you have every right to be proud , you just gave one of the worlds most powerful countries the finger , this kind of Courage wich is very much needed to stop the US from steamrolling us all.

TheGreazel

Originally posted by darkbake
Why aren't other countries threatening the U.S. with sanctions, exactly?

Because sanctions are a legitimate reason for war. The reason sanctions usually don't lead to war is there's too many nations against one which would have to launch an offensive campaign. The US on the other hand has a powerful enough army to fight several countries imposing sanctions at once.

It's pretty much a case of might makes right.

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Thanks, that is what I was figuring.

Ecuador can even push the U.S. around. This admin is soooo lame.
Best keep an eye to the sky.

Originally posted by Dianec




I can't find a recent link to this and have some questions. If expiring was it going to be renewed? If so its significant perhaps that it was cancelled unless by next month that means 3 days. I would just like to see how this is written (in definace of US, etc). Or if someone can clarify as it may be too new to have hit the Media. Thanks.

July 31st 2013 is the expiry date, this is a balanced article on the subject,

http: //news.cision.com/kurman-communications--inc-/r/keep-trade-going--campaign-highlights-ecuador-s-importance-as-a-u-s--trading-partner-and-the-quality,c 9411976

You need to close up http with the rest of the URL after pasting into the search bar.

Not only did Ecuador cut it's trade treaty with the US, they offered up 23 million a year in aid for Human Right's education. A well deserved black eye to the USG!



¡Viva el Presidente Correa

Originally posted by Kali74
Not only did Ecuador cut it's trade treaty with the US, they offered up 23 million a year in aid for Human Right's education. A well deserved black eye to the USG!

¡Viva el Presidente Correa

edit on 28-6-2013 by Kali74 because: (no reason given)

yes!!!! this stuck out to me big time! they are willing to match what they benefitted by the trade agreement to pay for human rights training in the US! so awesome!!!

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Yes! Haha when I saw it on the news over hereI was cracking up.. definitely a slap on the face...

Today's news is that Ecuador has de-authorised the temporary travel order they granted to Snowden due to being miffed that Julian Assange seems to be running things. Not sure what the story really is with this.

But it seems the FBI target has shifted from Snowden to Wikileaks and it has become known that they are starting to round up and question people who have had contact with Assange, They can't get Snowden so they're going for the easier target.

ETA: A lot of supporters who have NOT had anything to do with Assange or Wikileaks are watching this development very closely indeed.

You see what I did there

First, Ecuador is a simply marvellous nation where many, many U.S. Americans choose to live. The behaviour of the USA's government in South America has been that of a monstrous vampire choosing who will live and who will die. I am so impressed with the Ecuadorian government's response to the threats from the USA.

Second: Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) is one of the most utterly corrupt politicians in the USA. That he is the one sent out to harass and harangue Ecuador helps underline the truth that the government of President Obama is even more corrupt and evil than that of his predecessor.

Today the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights on the BBC could not bring herself to address why the USA gets to do whatever the hell it wants to or in other countries including the mass killing of innocent civilians. Someday the USA will have to answer for its crimes, and U.S. Americans will have a hard time dealing with a world that regards them every bit as evil as the Germans (for the Nazi era crimes against humanity).