If the Greys aren't real, where did the idea of them come from?

What's the earliest example in fiction of a "Grey" alien? If alien contacteeship isn't a real phenomenon, it was either made up or the Grey represents some of uncanny-valley sort of warp of the human face that's embossed into our brains.

Imaginationland. Just like most other loveable characters.

Originally posted by lampsalot
What's the earliest example in fiction of a "Grey" alien? If alien contacteeship isn't a real phenomenon, it was either made up or the Grey represents some of uncanny-valley sort of warp of the human face that's embossed into our brains.

If trolls aren't real, then where did the idea of them come from?
The simple answer is that humans have the ability of imagination and creativity.

An article published in 1893, "Man of the Year Million", H. G. Wells envisaged humanity transformed into a race of grey-skinned beings, stunted and with big heads. (Compare the Morlocks of Wells's 1895 novel, The Time Machine, who appear greyish-white and large-eyed, but hirsute.) In his 1901 book The First Men in the Moon, Wells described Selenites (natives of the Moon) as having grey skin, big heads, large black eyes and wasp-stings. He also briefly describes aliens resembling Greys brought down to Earth as food by the Martian antagonists of his 1898 novel The War of the Worlds.

In 1933, the Swedish novelist Gustav Sandgren, using the pen name Gabriel Linde, published a science-fiction novel called Den okända faran (The Unknown Danger), in which he describes a race of extraterrestrials: "[...] the creatures did not resemble any race of humans. They were short, shorter than the average Japanese, and their heads were big and bald, with strong, square foreheads, and very small noses and mouths, and weak chins. What was most extraordinary about them were the eyes – large, dark, gleaming, with a sharp gaze. They wore clothes made of soft grey fabric, and their limbs seemed to be similar to those of humans." The novel, aimed at young readers, included illustrations of the imagined aliens.

Were there any reports of them before these works of fiction came out?

I believe they were first referenced in the 1961 Hill Abduction Case, specifically the details of Betty's "dreams".

In November 1961, Betty began writing down the details of her nightmarish dreams. In one dream, she and Barney encountered a roadblock and men who surrounded their car. She lost consciousness but struggled to regain it. She then realized that she was being forced by two small men to walk in a forest in the nighttime, and of seeing Barney walking behind her, though when she called to him, he seemed to be in a trance or sleepwalking. The men stood about five feet to five feet four inches tall, and wore matching uniforms, with caps similar to those worn by military cadets. They appeared nearly human, but with bald heads, large wraparound eyes, small ears and almost absent noses. Their skin was a greyish colour.

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The first description of the grey alien could be attributed to H. G. Wells way back in the 19th century .

An article published in 1893, "Man of the Year Million", H. G. Wells envisaged humanity transformed into a race of grey-skinned beings, stunted and with big heads. (Compare the Morlocks of Wells's 1895 novel, The Time Machine, who appear greyish-white and large-eyed, but hirsute.) In his 1901 book The First Men in the Moon, Wells described Selenites (natives of the Moon) as having grey skin, big heads, large black eyes and wasp-stings. He also briefly describes aliens resembling Greys brought down to Earth as food by the Martian antagonists of his 1898 novel The War of the Worlds.
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A more recent incarnation could be attributed to Betty and Barney Hill in 1961.

The men stood about five feet to five feet four inches tall, and wore matching uniforms, with caps similar to those worn by military cadets. They appeared nearly human, but with bald heads, large wraparound eyes, small ears and almost absent noses. Their skin was a greyish colour.
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I would say the idea came from unfortunate souls born with developmental disorders. If you look up progeria, there is a strong correlation between the descriptions of greys and the features of the condition. Kind of like how the origin of the cyclops myths may have been inspired by holoprosencephaly.

fear causes denial for some cannot accept the truth for what it is ad that is "many are not alone" here on EA*

As an experiencer GREYS ARE INDEED REAL. And they're not all grey. My kids described a grey that looked like the one in the video on the news, at the window. I saw in front of me a thin, stick like, rose colored grey, that moved in a surreal way when he vanished. He twisted and lept to the side, his twig arms, and limbs, elongating and flowing, then vanished. That night, had a big dream of abduction! Whole family, and when I woke up as it ended, and was told, to write it down, before I could say anything, my older son, possibly 19 at the time, told me that the whole room had just jolted, and he felt like he was dropped off. Well he certainly was in the dream. He, my brother and his grandfather were abducted and my oldest son, myself were trying to get them back. Well my oldest son is a skeptic, he didn't believe the crafts we were seeing were UFO's.

I was shaking my fists at them telling them to bring back my Family ASAP. And then one came close and landed, with a see through top. My oldest was so excited he ran aboard.

I hung back in the dream wondering how I was now going to rescue all of my family including my oldest son.

Then two very tall, over 7 feet tall, blond female identical looking "clones"??? said to me, you might as well come on board and fill out the questionaire, it will only take 15 minutes.

I was seated opposite of my oldest son, and on both sides of this round table there were 2 sets of identical blond tall female clones, so 4 identical. The first question was: When was the first time you knew for sure it was a ufo?

I looked at my son, this is your first time then? He asked what the date was. I turned to one of the women and without words she shrugged and We Don't Do Time!!!!!! Came strongly.

Then she turned to me and said, This Day Took 9 Days To Complete. And I woke up with the words, Write This Down.l

Now just prior to the first question, I saw my father, my brother and my second oldest son fall from the sky, wearing blue mechanics type uniforms, dusting this orange powder off them. They took off the uniforms, turned them inside out and was dusting off this powder.

Now what I was allowed to remember was like a cover report, and 9 days of missing time. I hope I got a trip back home.

It seemed we were divided in 2 separate types of groups, and that my father's group was doing some salt mines in the solar system, maybe the orange meant mars! And we had a different group, my older son and I.

In our experiences the greys and the human ones work together!!!!

10,000 BC Old paintings portraying your typical grey, they been around for some time

I suppose this argument could be used for the idea of "God" -- i.e., "If God isn't real, where did the idea come from?"

I'm not saying God is real or not. I'm just saying the same logic could apply.

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Logic

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What did the DROPAS look like?

The Dropa stones, otherwise known as the Dzopa stones, Dropas stones or Drop-ka stones, are said by some ufologists and pseudoarchaeologists to be a series of at least 716 circular stone discs, dating back 12,000 years, on which tiny hieroglyph-like markings may be found.[1][2] Each disc is claimed to measure up to 1 foot (30 cm) in diameter and carry two grooves, originating from a hole in their center, in the form of a double spiral.[3] The hieroglyph-like markings are said to be found in these grooves.

human hybrids or survived direct exposure?


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From the Roswell Incident..you could also say that they were the subject of cave paintings many thousands of years ago..

Sorry guys its my fault

When i crashed my ship in roswell

Navigational error, I hit some sort of weather balloon.

Their original origin probably comes from tribal use of a certain chemical found in the pineal gland that can be obtained from certain plants, most notably bark from Mimosa Hostillis. When combined with a drink that reduces their liver's ability to filter it out, the tribal leaders would see entities such as the Greys.

In addition, a study by Dr. Rick Strassman in the 1990's injected this substance into the veins of his participants and found the same thing, as well as reptilians, and "elves," which might be the greys. There is speculation that Hitler was in contact with them as well through the drug.

So the origins are most likely extremely dated and involve at least some spiritual connection.



Here they are in Egyptian art as well. The Egyptians thought that the Pharisees were actually "Gods" in human form. So because of their wide-spread appearance in ancient culture, and the known way to access them, I would say...

Originally posted by lampsalot
If the Greys aren't real, where did the idea of them come from?

You could ask the same about zombies, unicorns, trolls, ghosts, gods or Donald Duck

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I have one friend who has some kind of medical issue related to diabetes that somehow allows her to see Greys that walk around near Idaho Falls. She notices tall ones, as well as small ones.

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Actually Roswell new mexico is now the testing ground for Space crafts. I live in the area, we've had german pilots test the spaceships, we can hear them flying all night.

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Originally posted by lampsalot
If the Greys aren't real, where did the idea of them come from?

You could ask the same about zombies, unicorns, trolls, ghosts, gods or Donald Duck

The answers are different for all of the above.