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Seven people were killed and at least 30 others were shot in violence that plagued Chicago over Father's Day weekend. Five of the fatalities and 11 other shootings occurred overnight Saturday leading into Father's Day, including the fatal shooting of a 16-year-old boy.
This is what "gun control" gets you
Chicago, the third-largest U.S. city, last year recorded a homicide rate more than three times New York City’s and double that of Los Angeles. It also had about 900 more non-fatal shootings than New York despite having a third as many residents. New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg is co-founder of Bloomberg LP, parent company of Bloomberg News.
In a nation beset by handgun deaths and injuries, Chicago is a big city that bleeds more than almost any other.
Do you really believe that or are you just pushing your assigned talking points?
Originally posted by CB328
This is what "gun control" gets you
Gun control was overturned a few years ago there, so this has nothing to do with that.
This is what you get when you have overpopulation, poverty and a lot of minorities.
Recent events On December 11, 2012, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, in the case of Moore v. Madigan, ruled that Illinois' concealed carry ban is unconstitutional, and gave the state 180 days to change its laws.[14][15] On January 8, 2013, the Illinois attorney general requested that the decision be reviewed by the full appeals court.[16] This request was rejected on February 22, 2013. The attorney general is considering whether or not to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.[17] On April 29, 2013, the attorney general asked the Supreme Court for an extension of the deadline for filing an appeal, from May 23 to June 24.[18] On May 3, 2013, the Supreme Court granted the extension.[19] On May 31, 2013, the state legislature passed a bill that would allow licensed individuals to carry concealed handguns. The governor has not said whether or not he will sign the legislation. If the act becomes law, the state police will grant concealed carry permits to qualified applicants age 21 or older who pass a 16-hour training course. However, any law enforcement agency could object to an individual being granted a permit "based upon a reasonable suspicion that the applicant is a danger to himself or herself or others, or a threat to public safety". Objections would be considered by a Concealed Carry Licensing Review Board, which would decide whether or not the permit would be issued, based on "a preponderance of the evidence". Concealed carry would be prohibited in a number of locations, including CTA and Metra buses and trains, schools, government buildings, stadiums, casinos, parks, street festivals, and bars and restaurants that get more than half their revenue from the sale of alcohol. Permits would cost $150 for residents or $300 for non-residents, and would be valid for five years. Concealed carry permits issued by other states would not be recognized.[20][21] Also on May 31, 2013, the legislature passed a law, not yet signed by the governor, that would require lost or stolen guns to be reported to the police within 72 hours. The same law would require a dial-up check of the buyer's FOID card when a firearm is purchased in a private sale. The check is already required at gun shows or when a gun is sold by a licensed dealer.[20] On June 3, 2013, the attorney general requested the appeals court to grant a 30-day extension, from June 9 to July 9, for implementing a concealed carry law.[22] On June 4, the court granted the extension.[23]
Well, let's see. Here is another weekend in chicagoland:
Originally posted by intrepid
Just curious if you have any stats on these type of actions in the last month. Or are we going to make this point based off of one weekend?
Shootings in Chicago May 31- June 1, 2013 25-year-old man shot in Burnside At about 3:30 a.m., a 25-year-old man walked into Advocate Trinity Hospital on the South Side with a gunshot wound to his buttocks. Someone shot him in the 9200 block of South Blackstone Avenue in the Calumet Heights neighborhood 17-year-old boy, 25-year-old man shot in Lawndale Two people were shot walking home from a party in the Lawndale neighborhood about 2:55 a.m., Gaines said. A 17-year-old boy was shot in the foot and a 25-year-old man in the legs, and both were taken to Mount Sinai Hospital. 31 year old man shot in Austin A man, 31, was shot about 12:35 a.m. in the 5600 block of West Thomas Street in the South Austin neighborhood. He was taken to West Suburban Medical Center in Oak Park with a wound to his knee. 20-year-old man shot in Austin Someone shot a man in the arm on the West Side, near the intersection of Lemoyne Street and Lawler Avenue in the North Austin neighborhood. The 20-year-old was taken to Mount Sinai Hospital 20-year-old man was shot in Austin A a 20-year-old man was shot on the street in the 1400 block of West Lawler Avenue by a gunman who came up to him and fired multiple times with a 9-mm handgun. The only wound the man suffered was from a shot that went through his right elbow After he was shot, he fled the scene and was picked up about a block away in the 1500 block of Lawler before being transported to Mt. Sinai, where his condition had stabilized. The victim was not cooperative and that he was combative with both hospital personnel and police officers. 19 year old man shot in Gresham A man, 19, was shot about 6:30 p.m. in the 7800 block of South Marshfield Avenue in the Gresham neighborhood. He was dropped off at Little Company of Mary Hospital and transferred to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn 16-year-old boy shot in West Lawn A 16-year-old boy was shot about 4:30 p.m. in the 7200 block of South Central Park Avenue in the West Lawn neighborhood and walked into Holy Cross Hospital. He's in good condition
NUMBER OF HOMICIDES IN CHICAGO IN 2011 441
NUMBER OF HOMICIDES IN CHICAGO IN 2012 535
NUMBER OF HOMICIDES IN CHICAGO AS OF June 10, 2013 164
NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOT IN CHICAGO IN 2011 2,217
NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOT IN CHICAGO AS IN 2012 2,670
NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOT IN CHICAGO AS OF May 15, 2013 666
True, and if I were to venture near said cesspool I would want a gun. Body armor too.
Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
In other words Chicago was a cesspool, is a cesspool, will always be a cesspool
Not at all. If the citizens could open or concealed carry, there would be fewer shootings. Most criminals are cowards and do not prey upon those with the capacity to resist.
Originally posted by intrepidand the gun issue is irrelevant.
Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
In other words Chicago was a cesspool, is a cesspool, will always be a cesspool and the gun issue is irrelevant.
Source
If (1) the person's ID card has been revoked or is subject to revocation, (2) the card is expired and not eligible for renewal, or (3) the person does not possess a valid card and is not otherwise eligible, the penalty is a class 3 felony, punishable by two to five years imprisonment, a fine of up to $25,000, or both
430 Ill. Comp. Stat. 65/2, 65/14
1993: 855
1994: 931
1995: 828
1996: 796
1997: 761
1998: 704
1999: 643
2000: 633
2001: 667
2002: 656
2003: 601
2004: 453
2005: 451
2006: 471
2007: 448
2008: 513
2009: 459
2010: 436
2011: 435
2012: 506
overpopulation, poverty and a lot of minorities