Norway becomes first NATO country to draft women into military!

Norway becomes first NATO country to draft women into military
OSLO | Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:33am EDT

(Reuters) - Norway's parliament voted overwhelmingly on Friday to conscript women into its armed forces, becoming the first European and first NATO country to make military service compulsory for both genders.

"Rights and duties should be the same for all," said Labor lawmaker Laila Gustavsen, a supporter of the bill. "The armed forces need access to the best resources, regardless of gender, and right now mostly men are recruited."

Norway has been at the forefront in the fight for gender equality, introducing measures such as requiring all public limited companies to fill at least 40 percent of their board seats with women. On Wednesday the country celebrated a century since Norwegian women won the right to vote.

"This is historic. For me it is fantastic to make history, for the armed forces and for women," Gustavsen said.

NATO member Norway has reduced its armed forces since the end of the Cold War and spends heavily on technology to keep a small but advanced military.

Women already serve in the military, but do so of their own volition. They make up a tenth of the armed forces, according to the ministry of defense.

www.reuters.com...

Well if you are going to have a draft its only right and fair for both sexes to be considered.

A win for gender equality.

reply to post by MariaLida


Good for Norway!

Women campaigned for equal rights.....now they have them!

Norwegian Military Girl's Camp (Forsvarets Kvinnecamp) 2012

reply to post by MariaLida
Not exactly a new idea as many other countries have enforced compulsory military service for both males and females for many years. It's about time NATO countries caught up with everybody else.

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I do not think it is a good idea at all.. the key word here is "compulsory".

Most military forces are gravitating toward being professionalized, this is good but forcing someone to perform a task is not a very effective way of going about anything...

Some considerations. The medical exam performed to evaluate enrollment should be repeated in set time frames (like 5 years) for mutual benefit (so the state can get needed social metrics and exclusion lists), this of course should be balanced by a state that guarantees heath care for its population (this includes it being increasingly free for a large portion of the population).

Since the service is a social obligation, those that are not seen as fit should do an equal share of effort in other civil service functions.

In any case I do not see it as ethical to force women to serve in combat, it should only be permitted in a voluntary basis (and so should it be for men). Women are more valuable to a society than men this is a biological fact, life's imperative of reproduction is centered and dependent on women.

Military training should be an ongoing long term commitment, basic training should be part of the state education program if a society is to have a military at all. Realizing why it isn't so and why we need a military is what should concern us, especially when utilizing a conscription regime...

Norway has an Army?


I wouldn't think being a Norwegian soldier would be a particularly dangerous occupation.

The armed forces number 23,000 personnel, including civilian employees, and have a full-mobilization combat strength of 83,000. Norway employes a weak form of mandatory military service for men. While 63841 men and women were called in for the examination of persons liable for military service in 2012 (mandatory for men), just 9265 were conscripted. In practice conscription military service is voluntary.

And that includes the Home Guard and the Cyber Force.

From wiki.


Sorry, it's certainly good press, but isn't it rather meaningless?

Originally posted by MariaLida
Norway becomes first NATO country to draft women into military
OSLO | Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:33am EDT

(Reuters) - Norway's parliament voted overwhelmingly on Friday to conscript women into its armed forces, becoming the first European and first NATO country to make military service compulsory for both genders.

Good for you, Norway, but get this:

In Denmark we have done one better and not only eliminated the need for the drafting people into the forces - we even have waiting lists for BOTH men and women to join the military.

That's equality without legislation!
And in my opinion that's the only real kind.

Is this the same country who's police have only fired 79 shots for the last 50-ish years?
Everyone's gotta flex sometime i guess.

Originally posted by Argyll
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Good for Norway!

Women campaigned for equal rights.....now they have them!

That is only equal if men rule and the ugly fighting macho pig crapola that some display, that most women find repulsive and alien, are considered to be the norm for equality. WHICH DEFIES EQUALITY.

AS A FEMINIST I WANT MEN TO BE LIKE US.

I admire Norways politics but if I was there not only would my sons not be drafted, nor would my daughters and I would be in their face 10000X to infinity until they donned robes, shaved zero's on their macho reptile heads and spent their lives apologizing with tears down their face, and nothing they could ever do would stop me.

A major fail on equality!!!!!


Women aren't men with boobs! We're completely different. I know a lot of men think so, but we're so completely different and I would never obey any corrupt person. I don't stand under anyone on this planet and no one could make me.

FEED THE WORLD, HOUSE THE WORLD WITH BEAUTY!!!!!!!!! NO WARS!!!!!!

THAT IS THE HEART OF WOMAN!

Originally posted by Unity_99
A major fail on equality!!!!!

Women aren't men with boobs! We're completely different. I know a lot of men think so, but we're so completely different and I would never obey any corrupt person. I don't stand under anyone on this planet and no one could make me.

FEED THE WORLD, HOUSE THE WORLD WITH BEAUTY!!!!!!!!! NO WARS!!!!!!

THAT IS THE HEART OF WOMAN!

edit on 14-6-2013 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)

I am sorry, but how so? I guess you also feel women shouldn't work and belong in the kitchen?
I agree with not serving a corrupt person but not your, "I am too pretty to get my hands dirty." attitude.

I don't understand how anyone could see this as a good thing?

We should be trying to remove the military as a necessary institution not emboldening it.

How is compulsory military service a good thing either?
Rogue governments all over the place and you want to give them more control and power over our lives.
Opens up the possibility for being brought under military jurisdiction, this is all crazy insane.

I'm a little surprised at the heated objections to military service, indeed, to the very idea of a military. Do people also object to the existence of the police?

As an obvious example, when your house is being broken into, you call for the police. When your country is being broken into, you call for the Army. I don't see the problem.

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I dont support any form of military. And as for a police force world wide, its not forced occuptation its a choice to go through that college course and become that.

REPTILES TOPPLED THE EQUALITY AND ERECTED PENIS OBELSISKS AND PYRAMIDS AND COVERED WOMEN WITH VEILS, AND BEAT THE WAR DRUMS TO STOP SOULS FROM GOING HOME, BUT TO KEEP THEM IN HELL.

I won't let my sons fight Darth Vaders Wars, all things on the news are caused by the black ops, by the bildenburgs, all wars are played by them on both sides.

If nukes were coming, I would not murder that countries babies and children and send them back. SAVVY YET?

Women aren' t men and don't think like that. They think about FEED THE WORLD AND CREATE BEAUTY AND ABUNDANCE FOR ALL!!!

And equality is not slam dunking female into macho male form. WE AINT GOING TO JOIN YA!!!!

JOIN US INSTEAD!

It's not EQUALITY to smash ANGELS into DEMON MOLDS!!!!!

Ya guys have to join us!!!

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Ok, I'll join you at Phil's. It's a neat little night club about 7 miles west of here. A couple of drinks and who knows?


Seriously, changing either sex into the other is going to be a loss. There are women who prefer "men" to "feminized men." Sometimes a woman's got to call on a guy to get a bat out of the kitchen, drywall the attic, carry heavy stuff, or put on a tuxedo for a night of dancing.

Seriously, a family member had a bat in her house. Her husband was on a business trip and she didn't know what to do. Her next door neighbor's had three, let's call them "sensitive men," It took 45 minutes and screams and shouts from all concerned, as well as a variety of implements, to nudge the bat out of the house.

Let's just make better men and better women and keep on going as separate.

After reading this I had a thought.

If I was in the army fighting against the Norwegians and I was face to face with one of their lovely ladies would I shoot her? would I think "OMG its a lady?" and pause just long enough for her to stabme/shoot me.
Great idea Norwegians.

Oh and those ladys are hot btw in the vid I love scandinavian woman...

Originally posted by Unity_99
It's not EQUALITY to smash ANGELS into DEMON MOLDS!!!!!

Ya guys have to join us!!!

Are you saying women are angles and men are demons? Please clarify for me.

Originally posted by littled16
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Not exactly a new idea as many other countries have enforced compulsory military service for both males and females for many years. It's about time NATO countries caught up with everybody else.

Hasnt Israel had this for years? male and female have to serve?

what way is it so novel?