The Resolve To Win

As a warrior you need to know that in Iraq this is but a battle in the War not the War in total! Don't be knaive and believe our enemies are going to be easilly vanquished. We have embarked on a quest that will test every motive and ability we possess.

If you have never felt the sting of battle and smelled the end results of burned flesh or viewed body parts wash out of cargo holds and seen the blood stains it does not get any easier as time proceeds. I saw and experienced all of this misery in the Vietnam War and it has not changed one bit since then.

People are dying the same way they did back then and now I have good reason to wonder if we are fully prepared to accept what we will soon have to deal with. Now that this election is over resolve to understand that the war is still with us , only thing that has changed is the location.

The professional WARRIORS working for us now are the best trained, best led, and best provisioned in our history of warfare. We have accomplished this miracle in spite of TRAITORS like John F. Kerry-Teddy Bare Kennedy-Jane Fonda and all the socialist minions working against Freedom and Liberty here in America.

WAR is a nasty thankless undertaking that is only understood by the WARRIORS themselves; who allow themselves to be villified and spat upon by milloins of communist stooges around the world. Freedom has a price that cowards cannot understand because there are things of high moral ethical standards worth dying for in this world. Even the Freedom; that Anti-American protesters parade around in our streets was purchased with blood at the point of a gun by a patriotic warrior willing to die for what they believed in.

How committed are you to preserve our way of life here in America? Are you so liberalized in your thinking that nothing penetrates your cranium? Perhaps you need to be where a buddy of yours was being cradled in some medic's arms with their brains running down their arm or grabbing at their gut trying to keep their intestines from falling out. If you never for once in your miserable life are forced to deal first hand then count yourself fortunate. We as a nation may soon have to deal with even worse situations right here at home if this country does not find the resolve to finally face up to the realities of the world we are now living in.

We are fighting a fanatical enemy that hates everything you and I believe in. They would take off your head and not lose one second of sleep worrying about it. Generational hatred is what I am speaking of here; and this is taught and trained into them from birth and if you believe ISLAM is tolerant you have not been paying attention. You are the avowed enemy of every Muslim alive on the planet today. There is only one thing to remember about this enemy, they are mortals like all of us and they die like dogs in the dust so resolve once again that we will be in blood up to our armpits fighting this enemy and we will in all likliehood have to kill every last stinking one of them. The only other littany of fanaticism we have delt with in recent history was the cult of BUSHIDO in WWII and it took the Atom Bomb to finally put out the fire of hatred in thos adherents!

Thank you very much, as this is what the American Public needs to understand, they do not need to protest and bicker about something that is beyond their control now, give the troops 100% support both abroad and at home and they will come home quicker and with less casulties.

God Bless the United States of America!

First Id like to give you a big "thanks" for your service to our nation.
Second, I respectfully disagree with a lot of what you have said. Im not a brainwashed liberal, I dont watch television and I draw all my conclusions from as objective an analysis as possible. So...

Even the Freedom; that Anti-American protesters parade around in our streets was purchased with blood at the point of a gun by a patriotic warrior willing to die for what they believed in.

Protesting is not anti-American, its part of living in a Democracy. (or Republic, nomenclature is irrelevent)
The same freedoms that you believe Muslims are trying to take, you denounce as anti-American. The point of freedom is not the freedom to "protect freedom" in any way which you see fit, the point is to act in ways which you prefer. Of course this is limited by laws protecting others, but the majority of protestors are not anti-American, (I personally believe demonstration is a great manifestation of the power of liberty) they are anti-Adminstration. Freedom is not an American right, its a human right. What does freedom mean to the thousands of injured or homeless Iraqi innocents? The freedom to live with disability or the freedom to live in a box?

How committed are you to preserve our way of life here in America? Are you so liberalized in your thinking that nothing penetrates your cranium?

Im sure you realize that the only people revoking our freedoms are the people running our government. Muslims did not overwhelmingly pass the Patriot Act, the United States government did.

You are the avowed enemy of every Muslim alive on the planet today.

Thats pretty shortsighted, Ive been friends with Palestinians and others of the Islamic faith, Im confident in saying that they do not believe me an enemy.

There is only one thing to remember about this enemy, they are mortals like all of us and they die like dogs in the dust so resolve once again that we will be in blood up to our armpits fighting this enemy and we will in all likliehood have to kill every last stinking one of them.

These people are human beings just like you and I, like you just said. Suggesting that we will have to "kill every last stinking one of them" is essentially no different than taking the mindset of a terrorist.

The only other littany of fanaticism we have delt with in recent history was the cult of BUSHIDO in WWII and it took the Atom Bomb to finally put out the fire of hatred in thos adherents!

It took an atom bomb to put out a fire? Hundreds of thousands of innocent people were incinerated with those bombs, the fanatical leadership responsible for Japanese aggression remained unscathed.

You seem a bit of a paradox to me. You obviously understand human suffering as much as anyone, yet you advocate causing more...

I will agree with you but from the begining winker the invasion of Iraq was a not of liberation but of power.

The war on terror is not with the iraqi people and that is what is going on right now, you can not cover the entire sky with the palm of your hand and that is what this war is trying to do In that country while the real threat to US is free and runing business as usual in other countries.

Afghanistan ====> Mc Donalds
Iraq ==========> Burger King


Same thing, how can you attack Afghanistan and leave Irak untouched?
It would have been pointless to do so. Irak was a f** liability!!


[edit on 7-11-2004 by Vladtepes]

Originally posted by winker


We are fighting a fanatical enemy that hates everything you and I believe in.

Rubbish!
In Iraq we invaded a country on false pretences. Of course some of the population are going to resist a deceitful aggressor. That is what we are a deceitful aggressor.

dude you have the most short sigted views i have ever red

You are the avowed enemy of every Muslim alive on the planet today.

i sense a racist comment

but what the heck its just us muslims
if it said jews then you would have had people here say something


whats makes you think all muslims on this planet are told to hate

just because a small minority are brought up in a hostile enviroment
and told/taught to hate and kill

dude get your facts straight before you start putting racist rubbish in to people's head

Mark this here and now the enemy we have the most to contend with is radical islam; this movement will do like Nazism and fascism did in WWII even the moderates were swept up and obliged to support both of them. It will be the same here as the un-involved now will be goaded or threattened and ultimately killed if they do not support the Radical Islamofascicsts. We are headed for a conflagration un-paralled in history and the horrors of this war will pale all those that came before!

Originally posted by winker
Mark this here and now the enemy we have the most to contend with is radical islam; this movement will do like Nazism and fascism did in WWII even the moderates were swept up and obliged to support both of them. It will be the same here as the un-involved now will be goaded or threattened and ultimately killed if they do not support the Radical Islamofascicsts. We are headed for a conflagration un-paralled in history and the horrors of this war will pale all those that came before!

are you emplying that all muslims are radical all the suddern or just
a few?

one question where do you get this from?
because as i said you are very narrow minded

Truth or Rubbish Harumph! unless you have personally seen the problem in person you cannot characterize what I say as Racist because I certainly am not racist. I am a realist and deal with the facts of living in a Republic not a demoncracy. We are in a "JUST" war you bloke 3000+ died in the 911 attacks and only by the grace of Almighty Jehovah God did it stop there. The justness of any war rests with how it is prosecuted. America is a winner and we are not afraid to take it to the enemy where they hide out. I have personal family blood invested in the defense of this country and I know how to identify the enemy; their speech is the first indicator of their Treason they are big and brave and talk trash but short on action to fix the problem. The world calls them cowards. I only respect Patriots and Warriors who talk the talk and walk the walk!

Originally posted by winker
Truth or Rubbish Harumph! unless you have personally seen the problem in person you cannot characterize what I say as Racist because I certainly am not racist. I am a realist and deal with the facts of living in a Republic not a demoncracy. We are in a "JUST" war you bloke 3000+ died in the 911 attacks and only by the grace of Almighty Jehovah God did it stop there. The justness of any war rests with how it is prosecuted. America is a winner and we are not afraid to take it to the enemy where they hide out. I have personal family blood invested in the defense of this country and I know how to identify the enemy; their speech is the first indicator of their Treason they are big and brave and talk trash but short on action to fix the problem. The world calls them cowards. I only respect Patriots and Warriors who talk the talk and walk the walk!

i dont know eaither to laugh or to laugh
in the fact that you are actuily putting the blame on 9/11 on over 1billion people, saying that all of them are murderors

your country has killed hundreds of thousends of people in ints personal vendeta and still your hunger for blood hasnt gone ( now who is worse bin ladin for killing 3000 innacent people or your country for killing hundreds of thousends of innacent people )

I am a realist
you sure dont sound like one
because you sound just like the nazi's blaming the whole problems on all the muslims
like they did to the jews







[edit on 7-11-2004 by bodrul]

Winker spoke of fighting a fanatical enemy. Sounds pretty fanatical himself. Me, I think we're fighting barbarians: people living by a medieval code. Either way, they need to be fought (Winker is correct in this respect), but we all need to be on guard against becoming a fanatical society ourselves. For these reasons, I empathize with Winker's feelings, but I wouldn't want to give myself completely over to his way of thinking.

You keep denying the obvious; I agree War is not the answer we seek and technology certainly gives us the ability to kill mass numbers of people . Your theory is to kiss and make up and sing cum ba yaa! Sorry I don't kiss snakes in the grass or otherwise capitulate. I am a WARRIOR, we will finish this on our terms not theirs!

Originally posted by winker
You keep denying the obvious; I agree War is not the answer we seek and technology certainly gives us the ability to kill mass numbers of people . Your theory is to kiss and make up and sing cum ba yaa! Sorry I don't kiss snakes in the grass or otherwise capitulate. I am a WARRIOR, we will finish this on our terms not theirs!

dude get your head out of the clouds I am a WARRIOR sh*t doesnt cut it anymore
unless this was a film ( then it would be perfect )


im not even going to bother with you
because if i get started this will never end

Your calling our enemies fanatics? It seems like your just as extreme in your views as they are. As far as what you have to say, I think most of it is ignorant, macho bullsh*t.
Being a soldier doesnt mean that you have any more insight than anyone else about the reasons or validity of the war in Iraq. Your job is to destroy and kill the enemy, not to question whether it is justified or not.
If you have an opinion on a weapons system or combat tactic, I'll value your insight. If you have an opinion on politics or the justification for going to war, I couldnt give a sh*t less.

[edit on 7-11-2004 by apw100]