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Originally posted by Dominar
In short, no there's no evidence that they are all Military and there's no evidence that they're all ET.
My personal belief though is that there's a high probability that a large number of these UFOs are our own technology.
Tech so advanced compared to what the general public has that if it were announce to the world, it would completely remove the choke-hold that the energy companies have on us, and you can't have that if your game is control.
Originally posted by muzzleflash
You cannot prove "all" ufos are any one thing.
Because the facts have already shown that virtually anything that flies can be misidentified or unidentified depending on the observer and their knowledge.
We have too many semantics issues here to really even get into this as a topic IMHO.
Originally posted by mbkennel
Originally posted by Dominar
In short, no there's no evidence that they are all Military and there's no evidence that they're all ET.
My personal belief though is that there's a high probability that a large number of these UFOs are our own technology.
That is almost certain. It is on the record that a substantial number of 50's and 60's UFO sightings were in fact misidentification of classified tests and operations---U-2, CORONA, etc. Surely this continues today. Note that the US government (and others) often misdirect. Intelligence operations by CIA (e.g. U-2/A-12) and NRO are not considered to be legally military, neither are tests or even operations by private contractors (who don't have disclosure requirements).
Tech so advanced compared to what the general public has that if it were announce to the world, it would completely remove the choke-hold that the energy companies have on us, and you can't have that if your game is control.
This doesn't make sense. Technology which removes the "choke-hold" of corrupt middle-east barons who were born on lucky geology and gives more power to advanced industrial companies is a major win for the industrial country. Remember that for any money paid to oil and energy companies, there are powerful and wealthy forces paying money to them.
And 'energy' is not entirely fungible. Wind is free energy for the fuel but that doesn't change the reality of capital requirements, investment and production. USA could, hypothetically (and formerly, was once able to) build and fuel nuclear plants from raw materials mined entirely in its own borders. Even if there is some secret "free energy", would it be any cheaper to build than a fission plant, which we have 40 years of experience with?
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I wouldn't say it's a ridiculous question at all considering the 'secret military test vehicle' hypothesis seems to be quite a popular one amongst a certain section of UFO researchers.
"One theory which can no longer be taken very seriously is that UFOs are interstellar spaceships." - Arthur C. Clarke
“UFOs are real but they are not physical. They are messengers of deception”Jacques Vallee
"We got a coverup among the researchers themselves that people are relying on for the truth" ~ Joe Jordan "Joe is obviously not popular with many UFO believers for ‘blowing the whistle’ and revealing the deception behind it all..."
Lifting the veil on the UFO phenomenon
They are inveterate liars and deceivers, and delight in bamboozling and misleading mankind with all manner of nonsense. They are addicted to the abduction or kidnapping of humans.
The True Nature Of The 'UFO Entities'
"We are dealing with a multidimensional paraphysical phenomenon which is largely indigenous to planet earth." - Brad Steiger
"The UFOs do not seem to exist as tangible, manufactured objects. They do not conform to the natural laws of our environment. They seem to be nothing more than transmogrifications tailoring themselves to our abilities to understand. The thousands of contacts with the entities indicate that they are liars and put-on artists." www.scribd.com...
As others have said you can't over-generalize. But historically some sightings were things like U-2 and it's logical to think that the public on occasion may still see some classified aircraft as happened in the past.
Originally posted by K-PAX-PROT
While i make no claims that ALL UFO reports are just secret military craft is there any real evidence that this is the case and that the ET hypothesis is redundant for any UFO case that is deemed unsolvable due to its "flight characteristics "
That source lists numerous sightings where they think the Stealth Blimp might be a possibility. I don't agree with all of them (I specifically disagree about the Guernsey sighting), but some of them do seem like possibilities.
The Stealth Blimp is believed to be an exotic propulsion type airship operated by the government of the United States. Very little is known about this type of aircraft but it is known that Lockheed Corporation has had a design for a stealth blimp type of craft from 1982.