Objects Of Interest on Mars This week

First up we have a picture taken by MSL Curiosity:

mars.jpl.nasa.gov...

Here is the area of immediate interest:



The picture shows what looks like an outcrop of rock (lava?) that seems to have been eroded badly, either by the impact of windblown sand or dust. Close examination of the picture shows a strange shape underneath the lip of the eroded rock. Here is an annotated version of the object of interest:



The sample picture is notable for several distinct characteristics.

(1) Circular bulbous object, highlighted by PINK DASHES. This object of interest could be explained as being a door opening mechanism as only sighted from long-distance from the MRO. Possible door locking/opening mechanism. It may be possible that there is a light-colored triangle shape on the upper-side of the bulbous object. Such a symbol may be common to many door locations. Unfortunately lack of data/bad data means we cannot say for sure.
(2) YELLOW lines to the left possible door lever or running channel.
(3) GREEN lines to the right possible door lever or running channel.
(GREEN DASHES above the afore-mentioned, indicates an area of interest that resembles a door or other type of access point.

The objects are very well camouflaged and not highly distinct from the rock.

(4) GREY BLOCKS indicate areas of interest. The upper row are possible symbols and/or characters. They may be image artifacts caused by computer processing, or they could be in-situ. The two lower grey blocks are objects of interest that lie on the sandy surface below the lip of the rock. We are unable to verify their presence, form or purpose, even theoretically, at this point - but they do appear to be objects. There had been a suggestion that the objects on the ground may be debris of a destroyed stealth array, which are common in many areas of interest.

FYI:

Here is a previous photo taken by MRO of an open double-doored hatchway used to serve as some sort of venting and/or intake mechanism. Note the circular shape and fans visible in the darkness of the "vent".

There is another example of a closed vent, taken by MRO, but this is a large door in comparison, probably with an industrial or transport purpose.

Another example of doorway tech on Mars may also have been previously seen, as discussed in my previous post: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Naturally, we cannot positively claim that we have discovered anything in regard to door-tech on Mars, but with every new pic we examine we move closer to establishing greater understanding.

Continuing on from the last pic, note the large doors on the right (RED):


On the door seems to be some (roughly) triangular symbol:


This week MRO gave us a picture in which a possible match for that symbol appeared:


The above pic contains much exciting evidence. Hopefully, we will release our comments later.

Man I wish I could get so enthusiastic over rocks. I mean, sure they're rocks from another planet.. Well, ON another planet, not really from. As they're not here, but still there.

But I just can't get that energetic gusto to stare at them until I see things.

Even if it's just how they formed. I could do that all day and not really be any the wiser. From rocks there, or in deed here. In fact, there are many rocks here that DO pique my interest but only because they are shiny.

I have a bloodstone gem in a gold ring. Deep red when you look at it through the light. But I don't do that.

I am glad there are people looking however, I hope this isn't seen as disparaging. I guess I'm the sort of guy who jumps on a bandwagon, and not the sort who builds it.

Just, well, so far the wheel is being contemplated by the martians and they don't even have a horse yet. Bandwagon is a long way off.

Hopefully, we will release our comments later.

We? Are there more than one of you?
But why hopefully? Is there something that has, or will prevent you from "releasing" you comments now?

Originally posted by Blister
but with every new pic we examine we move closer to establishing greater understanding.

That understanding is.... there are rocks on Mars!

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There can be no doubt, I think, that there are rocks on Mars.

I can just see it now... all those Martians in their underground chambers rolling on their backs laughing. 'Those pesky humans... they'll never figure out all our ingenious rock shaped doors and animals until its too late... Mmmmmwwwwahahahahahaha!!!!'

Originally posted by Blister
There can be no doubt, I think, that there are rocks on Mars.

Well, you just posted pictures of rocks, so yes you are correct there!

Is this a joke?

It looks like you just doodled on some pics and called them doors.

Im all for looking at Mars pics but dang

Originally posted by goou111
Is this a joke?

It looks like you just doodled on some pics and called them doors.

Im all for looking at Mars pics but dang

Out of interest, have you learned to read yet? Or is it just the pictures that confuse you? Criticizing annotated pics is fine if you actually contribute to the thread man. Just my opinion though.

Originally posted by Blister

Originally posted by goou111
Is this a joke?

It looks like you just doodled on some pics and called them doors.

Im all for looking at Mars pics but dang

Out of interest, have you learned to read yet? Or is it just the pictures that confuse you? Criticizing annotated pics is fine if you actually contribute to the thread man. Just my opinion though.

Yep I read fine and this is just doodling.. I could find any pic on mars and just draw whatever I want on it lol

Man, Marvin and the rest of those crazy Martians sure do love camouflaging everything as rocks. Doors, fans, lizards, rats, machinery.

Or maybe the rocks are, wait for it, JUST ROCKS.

I do understand some people's inability to see patterns in the pictures. Even after I have illustrated them for the person. Interestingly this inability to see patterns is a medical condition falling into one of the categories of Agnosia. I suggest it be referred to if you cannot see the patterns depicted.

FYI, more information about pattern analysis can be found from many locations. Here are a couple: The International Association for Pattern Recognition (www.iapr.org...), and a few research papers are available at www.docentes.unal.edu.co...

I don't mind if critics can't see the objects of interest. It's just that it seems to me that their objections hark only to the annotated presentation, rather than the fine substance of the thread.

Read the OP and you will note that nothing has been presented as proof, final, empirical, 100%, certain or confirmed. Heck, the OP even states that it is "rock". So I have no issue with such complaints - it merely highlights a psychological (or is it an intellectual) inability to enter into discourse.

PS. Don't ever complain that NASA hides things from you. It is all there, and being studied. Can you help, rather than hinder? That is the question.

Sometimes these rocks do look like other things like the rat lizard

In this case these rocks look like rocks

I am always happy to have a look and think maybe....

In this case there is nothing here

Sorry

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Intricate modern building.


Intricate ancient building.


rocks.


It really has nothing to do with an illness or disease that causes people not to see buildings or shapes in them. It is, rather, the opposite. Pareidolia, that is causing doors and openings and odd shapes to be visible in martian rocks.

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Cheers Goatboy. Thanks for looking. What you say is interesting. Is it possible that humans are so far "backward" when compared to any Higher Life Form, that the only things we recognize are visual stimuli that has more in common with cave paintings than with higher technology?

I'm not sure, but when we spot a rock on Mars that looks like some creature (e.g. a rat) our interest is often piqued. The downside to that is, maybe, that when presented with images that just cannot be right, we reject the unfamiliarity of the scene and explain it away as anything else.

So, we smile when we see the faux rodent; we hiss when we see what we do not understand. Pure stone age behavior.

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Is it possible that humans are so far "backward" when compared to any Higher Life Form, that the only things we recognize are visual stimuli that has more in common with cave paintings than with higher technology?

So are you saying you're more evolved because you recognize a pattern, and I'm a caveman because I see doodles?

Originally posted by goou111
reply to post by Blister

 

Is it possible that humans are so far "backward" when compared to any Higher Life Form, that the only things we recognize are visual stimuli that has more in common with cave paintings than with higher technology?

So are you saying you're more evolved because you recognize a pattern, and I'm a caveman because I see doodles?

Even I had to laugh at that one. Very good.

No not at all. It does not worry me or concern me if people only see the rocks. But if we only ever saw rocks, or only ever saw the trees (on earth that is...) then we would never see what lies beneath, or behind. Or indeed, what the rock or what the tree was carved into being.

Hey Blister ... as you might know, I don't really buy into your stealth-theory but I do appreciate you looking at things from a different perspective.

This view of 'Point Lake' is indeed interesting and I'm looking forward to what the MSL team has to say about its origins, geologically speaking. Also, the area south & south-west of Point Lake is intriguing. It's where a lot of the alleged anomalies (previously identified by members here on ATS) are located incl. Arken's spine-like fossil find.

I wonder whether we'll get some close-ups of those before Curiosity climbs up that mountain. It would be a good chance to - at least - get some more morphological evidence, if we can talk about 'evidence' at all in this case. I think I would be disappointed (but not surprised) if the rover-team would 'not' have a second look at some of those features along the way ... but we'll hang on in there and keep our fingers crossed!

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Or indeed, what the rock or what the tree was carved into being.

Our eyes can and do play ticks on us so what we may perceive as carved or created is actually natural .



And of course the famous Mars Rat rock .




Sorry but I see nothing unusual on noteworthy in your pictures .

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So why have you posted those pictures?

Is it because there is nothing of interest about them, therefore you use them in defense of ignoring what must be visually obvious to everybody else? The bald humanoid head from a GoogleMaps image? The eyes, nose and mouth (i.e. a face) in the tree - or rock, whatever it is (I'd like to find out more)? Or the rodent-like rock thingy on Mars?

Seriously, you cannot see the likeness to those familiar objects? The answer is either 'yes' or no'. If you cannot then, dear friend, I feel you have problem. If the answer is 'yes' and you can see the likeness, then admit it. Deny your ignorance and give an explanation. That is what science is about.

The images you present don't require a mental illness to see the respective likeness - they are obvious images that any person would surely see and wonder about.

It is all too easy to dismiss familiar shapes and patterns on Mars as foolishness and not rock one's intellectual boat - lest it slip off that sand bar of certainty and sink. Instead, observe, theorize and test. Repeat until satisfied.