DHS Admits Boston Training Drill Involving Backpack Explosives Planned Months Before Marathon

Originally posted by jrod
Wow. I remember the talk about drills before the bombing. This just keeps getting more insane.

You obviously didn't read the article properly either.

My guess is this story was about to be leaked so they had to go public with it.

My guess is that you need to read the article properly.

How are we ever supposed to trust anything we are told by the US government?

The question is moot. You've probably never trusted the US government on anything in your life, so why would you start now?

Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
funny how their plan was nearly identical to the actual bombings themselves.

It wasn't 'nearly identical.' It involved Boston, backpacks and explosives. That's as far as the similarities go.

Originally posted by jrod
As far as who put the bombs in place, I don't think we'll ever have a straight answer.

One of the guys who planted the bombs has given a straight answer. Perhaps you'd better find out what he said.

reply to post by Sankari


So name us all the other backpack bombings in Boston ?or anywhere in the USA ,at all . Since there must be a lot of them ,for the similarities not to scream in just about everyone else's face .....do tell .

reply to post by wasaka


The name of their fictitious group is "Free America Citizens" if that doesn't make it painfully obvious that they are anticipating fighting American citizens and introducing the concept of American civilians as terrorists to police and Homeland security then nothing will wake you up at this point.

NOW more importantly remember that directly after the super coincidental real bombing (that was exactly like the drill) before any information was out politicians were blaming right wing extremist groups.

What are the odds that the government would plan a drill for a bombing scenario to be blamed on a fictitious right wing group and while that drill is in preparation some guys commit a real bombing in the same manner and same place (as if they have a script for the drill) and then the high up politicians start spouting how unsurprised they'd be if it turned out to be right wing extremists? Last minute script change?

Before my analogies and remarks get taken too seriously I will say I don't believe in the staged thing, but I do think that something happened. If I HAD to guess I would say that the FBI was in touch with these two young men (and had been since they were discovered. the fbi/cia/whoever admits to having checked on them but then not continuing surveillance, that's a big YEAAH RIIIIGHHHT). Rather than looking into them and forgetting it, my guess would be that they started pulling their old trick of the FBI posing as radicals and radicalizing these guys, in their communications they probably even dropped the inside knowledge of the bombing drill at the marathon. However rather than radicalizing and then handing over a fake explosive device i think the brothers cut all communication and made their own, very real bombs, and then targeted the place where they knew a lot of officials and police and people would be drill at the Boston Marathon (seemingly inconsequential inside information leaked by an operative while posing as a radical working on these guys).

What do you guys think about that as a possibility?

Originally posted by wasaka

Originally posted by jrod
reply to post by Bob Sholtz

 

Maybe it was a social engineering drill also. It is no secret when there is an accident or anything major like this many people claim injuries(and seek compensation). Could it be they made it look like a terror event just to see how many people claim injuries?

For the record, I do believe the bombs were real and the injuries and deaths were real. As far as who put the bombs in place, I don't think we'll ever have a straight answer.

Again, those drills planned for Boston remind me of the London bombing of 7/7. What are the odds of all these human tragedies having coincidental "drills" going on at the exact same time and place as "real" events?

Remember, on 7/7 people really died. It brings to mind Operation Gladio.

We may not get to the long and the short of it, but there is a valuable lesson to be learned here...if there's a 'security drill' planned for your event, city or town, it's a great time to take a visit somewhere else...anywhere else in fact.

Originally posted by boncho
A few of you in this thread have claimed how hard it is to trust the government when the same number are either outright lying in this thread, or just entirely ignorant.

So who should we trust again?

Great posts from you and adjensen.

I always find it deliciously ironic when the people who accuse the government of lying are caught lying. It happens a lot at ATS.

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
Whether this drill was scheduled for that day or the other, don't you find it funny how intelligence circles always seem to know what kind of attack is about to take place or is in progress.

That's their bloody job! How can you be surprised that intelligence circles know something they're supposed to know?

In the cases you've cited, they didn't know what was going to happen, which is why the attacks weren't prevented.

Originally posted by PtolemyII
reply to post by Sankari

 

So name us all the other backpack bombings in Boston ?or anywhere in the USA ,at all .

Why? What would that prove? There doesn't need to be any other backpack bombings in Boson or anywhere else. You're completely missing the point.

The point is that the drill shared only three similarities with the actual event, and those similarities are not enough to make it 'nearly identical.' This is just one of many nails in the coffin of the conspiracy theory.

reply to post by Sankari

It wasn't 'nearly identical.' It involved Boston, backpacks and explosives. That's as far as the similarities go.

oh, really? forgetting the hijacked car, and the dead terrorist body left as a "clue"?

The government said it was a “bizarre coincidence” that one of the most important U.S. intelligence agencies had planned a mock plane-into-building crash on Sept. 11, according to the Associated Press who reported the story on August 22.

yes, just another bizarre coincidence drill on the same day.

A fictional “scenario” of multiple bomb attacks on London’s underground took place at exactly the same time as the bomb attack on July 7, 2005.

hmm...

i wonder what the DHS thinks about coincidence? if i drew up hypothetical plans for a similar scenario that happened in boston, would that be considered "coincidence"?

reply to post by wasaka



WHY IS THIS ALWAYS THE CASE.

911 , 7/7 london , boston etc etc.

I despise this world sometimes.

reply to post by Sankari

That's their bloody job!

Not really. Their job is preventing, not gathering intelligence and than do nothing about it.

Can anyone confirm Craft International employees (mercenaries) were at the event? I have seen a lot of photos like the ones below which implicates Craft Int. being present. Or is this another hoax / misinformation?



If they were present, I never understood their purpose.

reply to post by wasaka


According to the DHS documents acquired by the Boston Globe, the agents were planning on conducting training exercises centered around a fictitious terrorist group called ‘Free America Citizens’, a group that would plant backpacks full of explosives around Boston that the detectives would be forced to track down. Ultimately, of course, this ended up happening at the Boston Marathon itself with precise accuracy. The Globe report reads that “the city was hit with a real terrorist attack executed in a frighteningly similar fashion.”

Read more: www.storyleak.com...

Good morning ATS...... What a thing to read before I have had my customary POT of coffee. However, I woke up real quick when I noticed the name the DHS picked out for the "ficticious terrorists" Anyone else just a bit alarmed that "THEY" choose to call "it" "Free American Citizens!" I don't know about others here, but, that speaks volumes to me.........I readily admit I have not had enough coffee to have read the entire thread yet but, in my early slumber I have to wonder that perhaps we should be looking at what "DRILLS" are being planned and where to gauge upcoming news.

Once again, I am not fully awake yet...... But, I seem to recall the

1) WTC towers with crosshairs on them on some fema (?) manual.
2) Pentagon drill for a plane hitting it... or at least it was discussed. Never heard them plan for a cruise missle thou.
3) Sandy Hook....... wasn't there a drill a couple miles away at a different school. Didn't we even see footage of said drill on the day Sandy Hook went down?
4) The Boston Bombing........Hmmmmm, planning for just such an event.

I shudder to think what I may think of when actually wake up....

TEZ

Once again, alternative media spreading disinfo. Things like this just goes to show how the conspiracy crowd can be easily manipulated. Sad, sad times.

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Originally posted by Philippines
Can anyone confirm Craft International employees (mercenaries) were at the event? I have seen a lot of photos like the ones below which implicates Craft Int. being present. Or is this another hoax / misinformation?

That has been explained, they were National Guard Civil Support Teams. Even infowars.com admitted as much.

reply to post by adjensen

What facts? You went from "there was a drill planned in June with some similar aspects, 'bombs in backpacks' being the most obvious" to "they had actors and fake blood at the Boston Marathon!"

Ahh, I sense you are coming to the same conclusion I came too within 3 days of coming back to ATS after the boston attack. Some of these people desire, so deeply, to have figured out a conspiracy, that they need it to be a false flag. They've invested so much of their lives in this that it HAS to be a false flag.

Don't get me wrong, it very well could be.

But what you mentioned highlights the problem very simply. Assertions and rumors, repeated enough, become fact. Better yet, most of us have trained ourselves to believe the government and media is lying, at all times, about everything. It's a little absurd when you take a step back and look at it objectively.

For example. The "Drill" at Boston.

Lets put the actual FACTS up first.

Some people saw bomb sniffing dogs walking through the area, as well as spotters on rooftops.

Yeah, well, because the US is technically at war with the planet, and this is a major event televised live. It's clearly a potential target. Would you have felt better if they didn't take any precautions at all? Of course there were bomb sniffing dogs. Of course they'd say "it's a training EXERCISE" what do you expect, them to say, don't mind the dogs, we're just looking for all the bombs that the terrorists planted here?

Then the library, the bombsquad detonating a potential bomb. Wow, that's completely out of the ordinary isn't it? No.. it's not at all. That's kinda what the hell bomb squads do. Jesus.

Those are the facts, now the hearsay and conjecture.

A bunch of military private contractors dressed in black with similar backpacks to the bombs were all over the place acting suspicious.

Yeah, I saw the infowars story too. Lets be clear, none of them have been identified as anything but civilians. The only indication they might be contractors is a logo on a guys hat.

When exactly does this become fake actors with fake blood? I got lost along the way

So all the secrets are finally gonna start spilling out now? Woohoo!

I will watch closely the next month and see if the floodgates really are opening, I certainly hope so.
We shall see soon enough where all these dominoes will fall.

I'm feeling so lucky right now, I ought to go to Vegas.

I have this sense that the current plans are totally unraveling and it's hilarious because I love imagining how angry their faces must look and how they all turn on each other like hyenas. Brilliant.

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters

Those are the facts, now the hearsay and conjecture.

A bunch of military private contractors dressed in black with similar backpacks to the bombs were all over the place acting suspicious.

You can correct me on this but I am pretty sure here at ATS it was shown that they were indeed contractors and that their company (or whomever the authority was) explained they were working there as "typical security". Which maybe is possible since private security firms do work for pretty much everyone.

I have no idea what thread that is on, I'll look around though.

Originally posted by Tribunal
just accept that other evidence shows that there was a drill going on and that there was foreknowledge of an explosion.

What 'foreknowledge of an explosion'?? Where did you get that from?

A drill is just that ... a drill. They happen all the time, and obviously for good reason.

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
Whether this drill was scheduled for that day or the other, don't you find it funny how intelligence circles always seem to know what kind of attack is about to take place or is in progress.

Why would it be 'funny? It's their job to try to figure out how terrorists will most likely hit us.
By the looks of the drills, it seems like they are doing a pretty good job figuring it out.

reply to post by MysterX

We may not get to the long and the short of it, but there is a valuable lesson to be learned here...if there's a 'security drill' planned for your event, city or town, it's a great time to take a visit somewhere else...anywhere else in fact.

Quite the opposite. There have been plenty of people posting drills that have transpired in various cities on the boards, with titles like "Next False Flag?!!" but nothing happens. You don't remember them because they are in fact not worthy of remembrance. However, if something happens, then Natural News, AJ and the rest say things like:

"Drill as it happened! it was planned!"

But there was two drills the years immediately before Boston. 2 out of 3 aint bad. There was probably more before that too, just the article I linked specifically was talking about this reoccurring drill.