Do TPTB REALLY control US Media?

I'm confused.

IF they are, like so many people on here have told us, then why do all the anchors and analysts keep grilling OBama on Benghazi and why all the attention on this NSA keeping Verizon's messages/phone-calls.

Why not "black-out" like everyone here talks about?

Propaganda is a little more complex then simply 'blacking out' things. It is more effective to take a legitimate issue and focus on the trivial aspects of it then merely ignoring it completely; doing so may lead to the general public to suspect the media is controlled.

They're waiting on the next big thing to happen and all of this chatter about Obama-gate will vanish to the back pages.

Remember when N. Korea was jumping around screaming look at me and then the Boston bombings happened. This is what they're waiting for.

They put it in our faces then quickly change the subject. That way you can't say you didn't know about any of it. We'll soon have something else to worry about.

Originally posted by CALGARIAN
I'm confused.

IF they are, like so many people on here have told us, then why do all the anchors and analysts keep grilling OBama on Benghazi and why all the attention on this NSA keeping Verizon's messages/phone-calls.

Excellent question. Now watch the conspiracy theorists squirm painfully as they try to avoid it.

Why not "black-out" like everyone here talks about?

Exactly. If they could, they would. They don't because they can't.

The US media is controlled by conservative corporate elites whose influence on the public consciousness is greater than the government's. They are unelected and unaccountable, yet they have the power to shape and direct political discussion at every level, and the government is powerless to stop them.

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Kinda makes it look like they are actually practising free speech instead of programmed scripts doesn't it?

My guess? The media has taken such a hit over the last year and are losing face as well as viewers. So how is that fixed?

Start reporting something worthwhile for a short term. Just to look like they are really NOT puppets of the Admin. and then...slowly back to their crap...

Just a guess of course.

Peace

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I think they have finally angered the news media by going after one of their own in that media-gate thing. They are probably shaking their heads going oh my (higher powers) what have we gone and done now?

Oh yeah, if you look at Fox they have been going Obama forever, media -gate just brought the more Liberal journalists on board.

Oh, by the way, I'm Independent, which actually says I don't trust any of them, and try to vote for the lessor of two evils. Except their hardly ever is one.

You can try and control the media but, it rarely works. You can use leaks for political agendas but, others can use them against you as well. Coming from the inside where the media was oftem seen as almost an enemy it was amusing for me to see people think that the media was being controled. I can think of a few time that would have been really useful if it had been true.

By typing "The Illusion Of Choice" into google, one finds that this trend is not only constrained to the media, but it also seems to have seeped into every other aspect of our lives.

Here are several examples, I'll post links cause they are sizable images.
Media
Another Media
Seed Industry
Food
Differe nt Media
One we're all familiar with, Politics

I'm sure there are many more like real estate, banks, manufacturers, etc...

If I recall correctly, at one time people were only allowed to own up to 3? media outlets and if I'm not mistaken, it was Colen Powell's son who worked for the FCC who made it possible for someone to own an unlimited amount of media outlets.
Maybe I'm wrong, I'll have to look it up but that feels right to me at the moment.

At any rate, I think this is a real problem and has much to do with the state of things in this world right now.

It would be almost impossible if not, for you or I, or some other Joe Schmoe to even try and begin to get our foot into one of these industries and hope to compete with these massive corporations.

The question is, how do we put an end to this type of practice and end the global corportocracy *sp ?

I think the answer is pretty straight forward on this. It's been the same with past Presidents too. The media is as likely to be nice as not. Downright forgiving at times, in past administrations as well. If they reach a threshold of just outright being sick of the B.S. though...look out.

I don't think that ship turns very quickly back. I think the tapping of reporters and now Holder coming out to say he somehow had absolutely no choice by law but to authorize all that....umm.I think the media's had it largely from that scandal overall. The others are chum in the water for the mother of all feeding frenzies. The perfect storm of bad news and groundhog day of the same bad scene over and over.

Kinda fun to watch the tide turn, actually. It's not entirely helpful for national stability in the current bad world situation though.

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Have you ever heard about Operation Mockingbird?

en.wikipedia.org...

Operation Mockingbird was a secret Central Intelligence Agency campaign to influence media beginning in the 1950s. Organized by Cord Meyer and Allen W. Dulles in the 1950s, it was later led by Frank Wisner after Dulles became head of CIA. The organization recruited leading American journalists into a network to help present the CIA's views, and funded some student and cultural organizations, and magazines as fronts. As it developed, it also worked to influence foreign media and political campaigns, in addition to activities by other operating units of the CIA

Being a veteran ATS'er I'm sure you're familiar with above & I'm also sure you're familiar the few, the elite, that control all the news and information we receive. As George Carlin said best in his 2005 HBO comedy special, "They own you. They own everything." (YouTube: American Dream)

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No clue really. But, when you look over at google news and the writers sound like ats members... holy sheet.

I believe TPTB controls the MSM. There's also been so many examples-especially during the recent presidential election. POTUS must have angered someone higher up, for them to be "turning" on him as such. Nice to see the rest of the media following along. Interesting and amusing at the same time.

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The obvious and short answer is - they are being told to.

For whatever reason - they have an agenda, playing both sides of the coin is what they do, and always have done dont let the media fake you out... Who even listens to the MsM anyways Lol?

Originally posted by Sankari

The US media is controlled by conservative corporate elites whose influence on the public consciousness is greater than the government's. They are unelected and unaccountable, yet they have the power to shape and direct political discussion at every level, and the government is powerless to stop them.

I really needed a laugh today and thank you for providing such. To think that someone could state what you did and mean it brought tears to my eyes.

Conservative corporate elites? Really? Of whom do you speak?

TPTB are neither conservative nor liberal. They are globalist. They have no loyalty to anything but their ultimate goal of eradication of sovereignty.

That being said, I have yet to see the scales tipped in the favor of conservatives regarding MSM. Just ask the IRS.

There are two that should jump out at you. MSNBC MS stands for Micro Soft. And then you have Fox News. Enemys right? Did you know that Rupert Murdoch and Bill Gates are business partners trying to change the way school are ran. They are even partners in the cell phone industry with Samsung.Hell Samsung is even part of that school thing with building the tablets for E learning.

But all was good in the spying on every one until they spied on the media and Congress on leaking a CIA agents deep cover in Yemen. Spy on every body just don't spy on me I guess was the rule.

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No FEMA detention centers.
No NSA taping Verizon records illegally.
No Bilderberg Club
Extremely limited Benghazi footage.
Extremely limited LIBOR footage.
Extremely limited on IRS auditing prayers.


Censorship.

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You should add to the list the two new ones.

CIA agent teacher at Dartmouth Brian Glyn Williams knew bombers and had contact with them.
www.opednews.com...

FBI released documents showing Saudi Royal Family tied to 9-11 hijackers and ran house as control center. FBI released these records to show why they should be able to keep the rest secret for National Security.
whowhatwhy.com...

6-6-2013 2+0+1+3=6 666 hell day for the US government.

Originally posted by CALGARIAN
I'm confused.

IF they are, like so many people on here have told us, then why do all the anchors and analysts keep grilling OBama on Benghazi and why all the attention on this NSA keeping Verizon's messages/phone-calls.

Why not "black-out" like everyone here talks about?

they [msm] are merely addressing their own credibility problems.
by seemingly slamming a president who wont be running again and thus no longer needs their services.
thus giving the impression that they are fair and impartial.
so that by 2016 they can sell you more hope and change propaganda.

but hey, don't let me stop you from listening to and believing anything that comes from the Ministry of Truth.

as i am quite "Mad" after all.

Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
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No FEMA detention centers.

They don't exist. Even Glenn Beck is smart enough to know this, and he has the intelligence of a three week old cheeseburger.

No NSA taping Verizon records illegally.

Nonsense, this is all over the MSM.

The Atlantic.
The Guardian.
USA Today.
Bloomberg.
BBC.
MSN.
NBC.
Fox.

Examples could be multiplied.

No Bilderberg Club
Extremely limited Benghazi footage.
Extremely limited LIBOR footage.

More nonsense. All of these stories have been extensively covered by the MSM, particularly Benghazi (the conservative media elites have really enjoyed that one—and so they should, since it's a disaster which reflects poorly on Obama's administration). You can learn this yourself from a simple search right here at ATS.

Extremely limited on IRS auditing prayers.

False. The IRS is not auditing prayers. It is auditing groups which claim tax exemption on religious grounds. Such groups are required to provide information supporting their claim, which includes reference to time spent on religious activities such as prayer.

Excellent question. Now watch the conspiracy theorists squirm painfully as they try to avoid it.

Sankari, you really think stating stuff like this actually works? I see you do it all the time.

The US media is controlled by conservative corporate elites whose influence on the public consciousness is greater than the government's. They are unelected and unaccountable, yet they have the power to shape and direct political discussion at every level, and the government is powerless to stop them.

Strike out the conservative and I would fully agree with this statement. There are political factions even amongst the corporate elite. People actually do have a variety of ideological positions, regardless of socioeconomic status. The expectation that all the corporate elite hold the same political ideology or are even on the same end of the spectrum is basically ignoring their humanity. I'd say it's generally not homogenous at all except when the subject matter is one where they do have a common interest at stake or if it's an article about Nicki Minaj's butt unless you're implying that the contradictory opinions that do occur within the US media are simply manufactured dissenting opinions set to rile the public up. Also, I wouldn't wipe the power utterly from the government as it is very easy to appeal to an individual's patriotic or nationalistic nature on occasion but generally, self interest rules the day.