New York Bill: "ANNOY" a cop, get 4 years in prison. , page 4

Wrabbit2000

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 11:22 AM

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reply to post by DrEugeneFixer

Oh, I think some of us were aware of what it said. Going by the letter of this law and the way it's written?

Had that scene happened in America? Dozens of people in that crowd would be good for 4 years a piece. imagine that. 4 years...for actions resulting in no injury and during protest. The law doesn't seem to make any exception or accommodation to civil disobedience or energetic protest. It's how most laws these days read. Dry, unforgiving and without compassion to circumstance, whatsoever. We can only hope Judges that see cases stemming from this, if it comes to be a factor, will show more discretion than the lawmakers who wrote it.

buddhasystem

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by DrEugeneFixer
The plain text of the law makes clear that this law only applies to a person who, 'strikes, shoves, kicks, or otherwise subjects (a police officer) to physical contact. Everyone who posted without reading the text of the bill, which OP did have the courtesy to link to, should recall the motto of ATS and deny ignorance.

Thanks for posting this. I noticed the pattern on ATS that cop-hating threads typically thrive and people in reality don't care to look at the fact, instead ceasing an easy opportunity to screams "pigs!".

korathin

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 11:25 AM

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reply to post by gladtobehere

Either build a wall, or build a Pennsylvania National Guard base at the border to act as a staging ground to liberate New York. I doubt this law will pass, if it does, I doubt it will hold up to judicial review.

VictorVonDoom

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by terriblyvexed

Conversely, would there be a way to force NY out of the U.S? Maybe build a wall around the entire state and turn into a prison

Well if the president was to get kidnapped there we could send Kurt Russell to save him...

Nah, let's send Stephen Hawkings instead. No need to waste a good actor.

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kauskau

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by VictorVonDoom

Well if the president was to get kidnapped there we could send Kurt Russell to save him...

thats so 90s

marg6043

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 12:00 PM
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reply to post by defcon5

No only that but what is the definition of "annoying" that goes into anything that the person being "annoyed" decide to put out of their butts.

moronic, moronic.

marg6043

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 12:03 PM
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reply to post by buddhasystem

That is another word for temper tantrums most children shows that type behavior so that will put children in the list of felons and 4 years of jail.

moronic, moronic laws
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smurfy

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by DrEugeneFixer

Oh, I think some of us were aware of what it said. Going by the letter of this law and the way it's written?

Had that scene happened in America? Dozens of people in that crowd would be good for 4 years a piece. imagine that. 4 years...for actions resulting in no injury and during protest. The law doesn't seem to make any exception or accommodation to civil disobedience or energetic protest. It's how most laws these days read. Dry, unforgiving and without compassion to circumstance, whatsoever. We can only hope Judges that see cases stemming from this, if it comes to be a factor, will show more discretion than the lawmakers who wrote it.

That's quite true, I would be surprised if this went through without some amendment, besides, this is a law for the police, without any corresponding protection of the public from the police, who are free to beat the crap out of people with batons and fists, like they did on the Wall St marches. Come to think of it, the police in NY are so lawless themselves, that those marchers were very brave to have marched at all.
However, there is a comments box under the amendment, it is empty!

InverseLookingGlass

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 12:12 PM
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reply to post by gladtobehere

I believe this is the law that will be used to justify getting clubbed and property confiscated for filming police. Need an app that streams to the cloud in real time.

LastStarfighter

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 12:13 PM
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reply to post by gladtobehere

This is for one reason and one reason only.

Annoy=video

If you video a cop now in New York while he does something you will be arrested. This is good for the cops so they can do things above the law without being recorded easier.

butcherguy

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 12:17 PM
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The bill passed in the NY senate, according to this:

ATS Thread.

Echo007

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 12:35 PM
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They will probably use this on people video recording police, anyone that might follow them around will be nailed with harassment charges.

mangust69

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 12:39 PM
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Number see? this number had never seen before ! www.youtube.com...

XLR8R

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 12:40 PM
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reply to post by gladtobehere

In that case every body should go out of their way to harass them. Things like giving them a dirty look. Or saying things like "Is it me or does it smell like bacon around here". They surely can't arrest everybody.

sean

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by winofiend
Every single video I've seen where a civilian has been even slightly lippy with a cop, has resulted in them being tazed, bashed, mobbed by upward of 7 cops, kicked, punched, smashed with batons, thrown to the ground, cuffed and then arrested.

What's this law going to change?

damn pigs... they're scared of the world. WHY BECOME A COP THEN?

You forgot cuffed and then beat. Quit resisting! Smash smash smash, quit resisting! Smash smash! There you lie dead on the ground with your brains dashed out of your head.

LastStarfighter

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by Echo007
They will probably use this on people video recording police, anyone that might follow them around will be nailed with harassment charges.

I just said that one post up from you. Good point

loveguy

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 01:26 PM
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S 240.33 AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER. A PERSON IS GUILTY OF AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER WHEN, WITH THE INTENT TO HARASS, ANNOY, THREATEN OR ALARM

What is it that differentiates a peace officer from a police officer?

When did policy take precedence over peace?

LastStarfighter

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by loveguy
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S 240.33 AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER. A PERSON IS GUILTY OF AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER WHEN, WITH THE INTENT TO HARASS, ANNOY, THREATEN OR ALARM

What is it that differentiates a peace officer from a police officer?

When did policy take precedence over peace?

It started with 9/11 when they started to militarize the cops. At the time it sounded good. As time went on all the kids growing up playing first person shooter games who were very young when 9/11 happened got all excieted about doing it in real life and decided to join DHS, the military, the police or some job where you can have a gun a shoot a "bad" people. Additionally they figured out that they could bully people with impunity by having NY pass a law against bullying cops.

loveguy

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 01:40 PM
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reply to post by LastStarfighter

It started with 9/11 when they started to militarize the cops. At the time it sounded good. As time went on all the kids growing up playing first person shooter games who were very young when 9/11 happened got all excieted about doing it in real life and decided to join DHS, the military, the police or some job where you can have a gun a shoot a "bad" people. Additionally they figured out that they could bully people with impunity by having NY pass a law against bullying cops.

Yeah,
policy has gone from one end of the spectrum to the other hasn't it?

Peace officers used to join-in on a friendly game of handball, now we're all trespassing because the park is closed after 10pm...

roadgravel

posted on Jun, 6 2013 @ 01:42 PM
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A person is guilty of resisting arrest when he intentionally prevents
or attempts to prevent a police officer or peace officer from effecting
an authorized arrest of himself or another person.
Resisting arrest is a class A misdemeanor.

codes.lp.findlaw.com...

So if passed, if the officer is touched resisting arrest might the person be charged with an E felony?
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