Rock brains of ATS

Random scenario that outline my perspective of ATS rock braininess

Some very observing guy spot a mysterious artifact in one of the many planetary pictures from NASA

Some other guy that´s been told over and over by mainstream news that just pointing out something like this is not social acceptable.

Remember those two words, because they are the essence to all problems in the subject of UFO/Aliens
SOCIAL ACCEPTABLE remember that.

For generations we humans have rejected those who are not like the majority, its NOT social acceptable
its NOT social acceptable to even point out things that´s out of the norm.

BECAUSE people are afraid of TWO things and fond of ONE

afraid of :
*Other "normal" people should discover they also have a interest in non social acceptable things
*the observer could be right, and that would make a heavy impact to the social acceptable world in a bad way

found of:
Quickly posting a SOCIAL ACCEPTABLE answer, to create a clear line between right and wrong


If I see one rock, its all rock from now on..
it´s carved in rock
and its the social acceptable to do

Are you talking about the mars rat, the mars lizard or some other unidentified ROCK?

Originally posted by shaneslaughta
Are you talking about the mars rat, the mars lizard or some other unidentified ROCK?

I am talking unidentified postings in general...

The meat is, I just wanted people would sit back and look at the things posted for 2 min. Before writing the monotone answer, add some color and have a open mind.. not be so quick to disregard things just because you prey in the church of acceptable science

Originally posted by Spacespider
Some very observing guy spot a mysterious artifact in one of the many planetary pictures from NASA

Although to be fair, the overwhelming vast majority of such threads are by people who saw it mentioned on a web page somewhere, like in the dailymail.

And then couldnt be bothered doing a search before posting.

Not very observant at all, really.

The term is actually socially acceptable.

But it has nothing to do with social acceptance.

ATS gets flooded sometimes with pics of rocks that people think are something more.

Yeah, rocks for brains. Why so desperate to find things on Mars? Don't we have enough problems here that need sorting out? Use your brain for something useful.

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by Spacespider
Some very observing guy spot a mysterious artifact in one of the many planetary pictures from NASA

Although to be fair, the overwhelming vast majority of such threads are by people who saw it mentioned on a web page somewhere, like in the dailymail.

And then couldnt be bothered doing a search before posting.

Not very observant at all, really.

You are right to some point..
BUT again you cant judge ALL of the posters by this, even if you are right and the majority is just doing re posts. That should NOT ruined it for the minority that's doing the hard work, and that´s what this is about

reply to post by Spacespider


Hard work, looking at rocks?

You sound like you think you are doing something important.

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It doesn't usually take two seconds to see a rock is a rock. If NASA is a secret government entity that is hiding alien life from us all why on earth would they then post pictures of a rock that is really a super sized space lab...lizard...or other rock ?

I don't think we are alone but seriously if you think you will find it looking at pictures of rocks and discovering something other than a rock then you really need to find a hobby

Originally posted by ANOK
The term is actually socially acceptable.

But it has nothing to do with social acceptance.

ATS gets flooded sometimes with pics of rocks that people think are something more.

Yeah, rocks for brains. Why so desperate to find things on Mars? Don't we have enough problems here that need sorting out? Use your brain for something useful.

edit on 6/1/2013 by ANOK because: (no reason given)

We will ALWAYS have problems unfinished, we will never reach a point where we say "we have no problems and unfinished business on earth" the problem are NOT using their brain, we are like robots and not free thinkers, we are slaves of this world and it shows in the way we react to situations that require us to think for our self, the ones that does.. don't fit in

And no we are not desperate, and it don´t take much time to keep a open mind.. there are plenty of time to save the earth meanwhile

Originally posted by DJMSN
reply to post by Spacespider

 

It doesn't usually take two seconds to see a rock is a rock. If NASA is a secret government entity that is hiding alien life from us all why on earth would they then post pictures of a rock that is really a super sized space lab...lizard...or other rock ?

I don't think we are alone but seriously if you think you will find it looking at pictures of rocks and discovering something other than a rock then you really need to find a hobby

See.. you just proven my point.. looking at those pictures are OUR only window into planetary bodies, why would we NOT look for evidence of past lift, whats so unacceptable by that.. we are here, is it so hard to believe there have been others before us ?

Throw that rock out, you would feel much lighter and free

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I would rather throw it at people who see space labs...rodents...lizards...etc...but that would be impolite. We have not even begun to know what lies beneath the ocean here on earth and since the oceans make up the majority of our planet I would rather see as much effort put into discovering what lies here than there...and who knows the answers we would like to find may very well be right here.

Looking at pictures and attempting to discover something is not very scientific and would never ever prove that life exist there. I would rather science prove the existence of possible past life or even current life...but pictures will never do that...especially when it only pictures of rocks.


Pictures are not the only way we have to discover planetary bodies...hence way we have spent a billion plus dollars to send the rover to Mars....it is full of scientific equipment which has already picked up...you guessed it rocks and examined them with various instruments. The rover has also discovered what appears to be channels that water would have created which would be the basis for life as we know it...so no pictures will not do it especially when it is of rocks.

Originally posted by Spacespider
We will ALWAYS have problems unfinished...

But we don't just have problems unfinished, we have problems that are escalating. As Rome burns.

I don't care if you look at rocks, I have no interest in trying deny your freedom, but when you make a post trying to tell people we should accept your finding's because we are just being "socially acceptable" then I'm going to tell you you're wrong.

I'm a socialist, I'm hardly socially acceptable. But I know if it's on a dead planet and it looks like a rock, there's a 99.999999% chance that it's just a rock.

Keep posting your rocks, but don't expect people to not point out the obvious. If you are so sure, you should be confident enough to not be distracted by debunkers and be motivated to prove them wrong, if you can. If you know you can't then that's when you become defensive.

Here's a neat experiment. Go out into the desert and place a rat amungst some rocks. Take a picture of it and say it is a Mars photo. See how many of the posters ridicule you and say "Rock". It would be an interesting social experiment. lol Just a thought.

reply to post by ANOK

Why so desperate to find things on Mars?

Looking for interesting things in pictures that may indicate past or present life on an Alien planet is perfectly understandable , I've done it myself but most of the time people let their imaginations run wild and do make crazy claims for objects that are clearly just rocks .

To be fair the rat on Mars was an interesting anomaly but it was just a rock , one day someone may find something of importance so the search is valid in my opinion .
You have to admit it is the best one yet and the least rock looking rock posted so far .

I agree with your point, the motto of ATS is deny ignorance but what I see lately is wallow in it. Some posters are completely ignorant to anything not backed by mainstream media and science and instantly ridicule it versus investigate it with an open mind, that to me is ignorance.

So many armchair 'debunkers' , it makes me often just think what's the point of replying because you will only be instantly jumped all over, receive insinuations of how naive or idiotic you are and patted on the head like you are back of the bus special.

When I first joined this site I thought it was amazing and found so many topics that I'd never heard of and that really expanded my viewpoint on what I know and what I do not know. Now, it's like every single thread you click on that isn't a 'mainstream approved' subject is inundated with official know- it-alls debunking and insinuating anyone who does not agree with their opinion is obviously inferior in their judgement and intellect.

Too much of a circle jerk now, opposed to an actual open minded venue where ideas can be expressed without ridicule. Like most of us don't get that enough in society as it is.

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Well that's fine nothing wrong in doing that, I just don't understand the huge amount of importance put on it.

If we find life, so what? Really what difference would it make to our daily lives?

My beef though isn't with looking for life on Mars, it's the OP bitching about people not accepting rocks as something other than rocks, because supposedly it's not "socially acceptable". Not the reason at all.

Fossils millions of years old usually do not resemble rocks, they are usually embedded in rock. Fossils very rarely just sit on the surface all by themselves.

Originally posted by ANOK
reply to post by Spacespider

 

You sound like you think you are doing something important.

is that an echo i hear?
ROFL

Black and White

Could we could meet at grey ?

perhaps we could learn something

Originally posted by TheMagus
is that an echo i hear?

I think I'm doing something important by expressing my opinion lol?

I was referring to the idea expressed, that looking for rocks is "hard and important work", it isn't imo. Sounds like delusions of grandeur to me, if you have to make a thread telling people they are not accepting your claims because of social acceptability.

Do you think that's why people won't accept rocks as fossils? Or could it just be that the OP is not as observant as they think they are?

All this searching and you've found rocks, you're not even looking in the right places. If there are any fossils they're not going to be on the surface.

I am quite willing to accept there was life on Mars at one point, before Earth was in the life creating region of orbit around the sun. Life is not special (highly evolved intelligent life is), under the right conditions life happens, it doesn't need anything but nature for life to happen. I think the whole question of life elsewhere is shrouded in religion, and divine creation. But we don't need to find life outside of Earth to prove that under the correct conditions life happens. A "creator" was just how the early Humans explained life. IF a god needed to create anything it would only have to be the planets and their nature, not life itself, god just needed to plant the seeds, not micromanage everything.

But then if something is possible, not matter how remote, given enough time it will eventually happen. Life is that extremely remote possibility, and space is more than likely outside of time, it has no beginning or end, only life does. So we are the extremely remote chance that eventually happened, because space has always existed, and anything can happen eventually in that environment. We only know time because we die. If life didn't have a beginning, and end, time would be meaningless, and imagine what you could achieve if time was no object. But then life is lazy, and you would be able to put things off forever lol.

Riddle me this?
If NASA really found something other than a rock, why would they release it publicly?

There's a difference between calling out complete and utter stupidity, and being a rock brain.