#OccupyGezi Protests Turn Violent As Police Attack Peaceful Protesters In Istanbul - plz read..!

What began as a peaceful protest aimed at preserving an Istanbul park, became an ugly battlefield scarred with tear gas, glass bottles and water canons.
Hundreds of people had slept overnight in the park as part of Occupy Gezi, to challenge the bulldozing of the green space to make way for new flats and a shopping mall.
Activists say they could not have predicted the police reaction. Photos posted on social media appear to show protesters being forced to disperse by water canon.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk...

Its turned messy in Turkey. Tear gas has been used and one death has been reported. Protests have started afresh this morning and are up scaling in size in response to police activity.




Anonymous is Legion (A.L.)

Their crime? Defending trees in Taksim square, Istanbul against the construction of a shopping mall...

europeans against the political system

stanbul a few minutes ago, a government building was set on fire

Occupy Wall St.



Kalp Her Zaman Soldan Atar

Dear friends all around the world, Something brave and significant is happening in Istanbul, Turkey.

A late blooming Occupy wave one might call it.

Citizens tired of a bullying government with its corrupt management of public spaces and reckless abuse of land are coming together to protect a public park in the heart of the Istanbul which is under the threat of being demolished so the 94th shopping mall can be built in its place. People are holding in spite of the brutal attacks by the police (today’s attack was at 5am in the morning one shall point out! including tear gas bombs, burning the tents, hospitalizing a person…). It is the 3rd day now, more than 10,000 people have gathered in the park!

Meanwhile, public spaces are being sold to hotels, precious ecosystems are being wasted for more industry, power plants, 3rd bridge over Bosphorus! This has become a matter about more than just saving trees. This is an ‘I can do whatever I damn well want’, fascist mentality that not only supresses but attacks its own people. To make matters worse, media channels are being censored so as not to display the news. #direngeziparki is now the 2nd worldwide trending topic on Twitter.

Please help us to share this message and stop Erdogan’s ruthless, inhumane acts

Anonymous Operations

After a series of peaceful demonstrations for preserving a recreational area in Istanbul city center which is planned to demolished for the construction of a shopping mall, Turkish police attacked the protesters violently with tear gas and water cannon, directly targeting their faces and bodies. Dozens of protesters are hospitalized and access to the park is blocked without any legal basis. Turkish media, directly controlled by the government or have business and political ties with it, refuse to cover the incidents. Press agencies also blocked the information flow.

Please share this message for the world to become aware of the police state created by AKP of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, which is often considered to be a model for other Middle Eastern countries. Turkish democracy expects your help. Thank you!

Beyond The Truth..From Turkey 31/05/2013

lol.. Okie Dokie..... Burn the place down.. Change the Government! Oh... Wait.. Hey, Turkey? Make sure you have something else in mind first.

Otherwise... Ask Egypt, Tunisia and Libya how that "Must CHANGE! ...for the sake of Change!" crap worked out for them. I think they'd take back their old leaders with gratitude and red carpet to walk down by now. Oh...but the grass is always greener until you realize the brand of fertilizer used is just a little different. Same crap...different field.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Thank you for your reply Wrabbit..
I do agree its easy to break something and far more difficult to fix it. The recent spring movement will testify to that and so will most revolutions that have happened in the past.

Usually get something worse than you started with. However I do think there should be a lesson to Governments here too. There is no need to act with such aggression towards peaceful protesters and Government should listen to the people more instead of bull dozing over with there own ideas.. Things need to be more decentralised and people need to be empowered more.

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I do feel for the Turkish protesters. They were protesting peacefully. There was no need for such aggressive force by police. It is not just Turkey this is happening in either. It is global. And for similar reasons..

I am in support of all those trying to get their governments to listen to them which is what the government should be doing in the first place. The people are not happy and the government does not care..

I think it is sick that the governments of the world are happy to injure and in increasing instances kill their own people. Seems completely backwards to me.

Good thread purp It is sad that this is not getting more attention. So bumpity bump....

Right now in Taksim Sq Istanbul. Taksim belong to the people of Istanbul.



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Sometimes I'm out of words, or feel I've said them so often that they lose meaning, however these protests bear (bare?) acknowledgement. It's only going to get worse for a long while yet, I hope we live to see it get better. Austerity and oppression do not work, they only serve those already at the top of the food chain.

In the process of resistance, there is going to be jockeying... malicious people that speak sweet lies and hope enough people buy them to win power. We saw this in Egypt, but we are also seeing something else in Egypt, the people didn't buy that they had won, they know they didn't, they know too many fell for the sweet lies and so they keep fighting which seems rather rare in history. Many revolutions stop when the dictator has been overthrown. But now we see in more and more countries all the time, that the people are not so easily pacified anymore, each step is only a battle and not the war. I think there is hope.

Yesterday, thousands re-took Liberty Square in Manhattan.

Occupy Earth

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I hope we live to see it get better. Austerity and oppression do not work, they only serve those already at the top of the food chain.

This particular protest was apparently not so much about austerity, as it was about the environment. The group was protesting losing a green park to a shopping mall. (Big Yellow Taxi anyone?) Throws it right into Agenda 21 land.

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Greenpeace, mmmhmmm
2nd line-What were primary gradeschoolers doing there????

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This particular protest was apparently not so much about austerity, as it was about the environment. The group was protesting losing a green park to a shopping mall. (Big Yellow Taxi anyone?) Throws it right into Agenda 21 land

If people care for there surroundings and nature you automatically define it as Agenda 21 land. People have cared for there environment long before Agenda 21 existed. Could you explain what you think is wrong with Agenda 21.It tries to address issues of sustainability which is really a very important issue. We cannot have infinite growth on a limited planet..

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This particular protest was apparently not so much about austerity, as it was about the environment. The group was protesting losing a green park to a shopping mall. (Big Yellow Taxi anyone?) Throws it right into Agenda 21 land.

Actually it falls under oppression which I specifically mentioned, why should the people lose a park if they don't want to, they pay for it... it's public land.

Oh yay! Agenda 21 babble. You really ought to be paid by the corporate polluters that perpetuate that moronic drivel, what a sad statement to humanity that anyone believes that nonsense and in such stark contrast to a such a beautiful one as people standing up for their commons... can't have people interacting now can we? Nah much better to be a mindless zombie spending money in a daze in a shopping mall... safe from that nasty fresh air, trees, grass and flowers... and god forbid the sound of children and dogs playing and worst of all maybe some free music by some lowly panhandler.... good grief.

To be brutally honest though, regardless of what people are gathering in protest of, they have the right to do so without being attacked by the police state with water cannons and batons.

Erdogan has overseen a transformation in Turkey during his decade in power, turning its economy from crisis-prone into Europe's fastest-growing, and remains by far the country's most popular politician.
"EXCESSIVE FORCE"
But critics point to his authoritarianism and what they say is his government's meddling in private life. Tighter restrictions on alcohol sales and warnings against public displays of affection in recent weeks have led to protest. And many Turks are also concerned government policy means Turkey will be dragged into the conflict in Syria by the West.


Read more: www.businessinsider.com...

Yeah it's freedom time in turkey in the eyes of ATS , but when it happens in Syria then it's a conspiracy , how pathetic and disgusting

And guess why , because ATSrs know every thing and 100% sure of it

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I have followed the Arab Spring movement closely. What is happening in Syria is different to Turkey. In Sryia they are people out there that want freedom but there are mercenaries there too with foreign funding. Its making a real mess of the country... If Western nations did not interfere things would be different and I would have more support for whats happening there. We want rid of the man. Not like in Egypt where they wanted to leave Mubarak in power. Or in Tunisia where they never reported in on the news for ages whilst it was happening...

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Thank you for your replies Kali... and I agree with you. I think all people should have the right to peaceful assembly. The police are becoming militarised and the governments are trying to control the people. The police should be there to serve the people and uphold the law and government should be there to answer to the peoples needs. The opposite seems to be happening more and more. Freedom is not something we should ever take for granted. It needs to fought for from generation to generation or it will be taken off us.

kind regards

purp..)

There is no such thing as a peaceful protest anywhere in the world because cops come in with water cannons, tear gas, etc and remove you by force. Not very peaceful is it? That's why you stand your ground with firearms when they instigate riots. On numerous times militia groups have showed up with arms and in full tactical combat ready gear at Occupy Wall Street. Cops stood right there and never said a word or done anything about it. Sometimes you have to do what must be done. Fight fire with fire.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
lol.. Okie Dokie..... Burn the place down.. Change the Government! Oh... Wait.. Hey, Turkey? Make sure you have something else in mind first.

Otherwise... Ask Egypt, Tunisia and Libya how that "Must CHANGE! ...for the sake of Change!" crap worked out for them. I think they'd take back their old leaders with gratitude and red carpet to walk down by now. Oh...but the grass is always greener until you realize the brand of fertilizer used is just a little different. Same crap...different field.

Mr Keyboard warrior, where is your intellectual contribution?

Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

This particular protest was apparently not so much about austerity, as it was about the environment. The group was protesting losing a green park to a shopping mall. (Big Yellow Taxi anyone?) Throws it right into Agenda 21 land

If people care for there surroundings and nature you automatically define it as Agenda 21 land. People have cared for there environment long before Agenda 21 existed. Could you explain what you think is wrong with Agenda 21.It tries to address issues of

Nope, not at all. I love nature and happen right now to live in a less densely populated area surrounded by mountains, but no Agenda 21 is not really as much about being good stewards of the land as it is about drastically controlling the resources and forcing humans to move into densely populated cities and living in apartment buildings instead of single family homes. It's in their literature, and the liberal Democrat Rosa Koire is even against it, and she has real experience in the real estate biz.
She has even exposed the so-called "Wetlands Project" and the use of the Delphi technique to manufacture consensus.
I've done my homework on this, have you? Do you know that such elite groups are behind this, such as the Club of Rome?

So Greenpeace can think they are against Bilderbergs and the elites, but they are signed on to the same radical program of centralized control as them...

How do you justify Monsanto being allies with the same Sustainable Development NGO's as Agenda 21??
I understand you want to preserve the land, but do we have force people to ride bikes to do it? If so, are you prepared to be signed on to environmental fascism to do this?

since you asked me so nicely, I will do my best to explain things, but I have to be somewhere this evening so I will give you some stuff to go by first.

www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com...

americanfreedomwatchradio.com...

freedomoutpost.com...

A huge part of Agenda 21 is deopopulation. A number of it's proponents have said it in express wording, Maurice Strong and Gorbachev to name two such people. Where have we heard this before? It's a Bilderberg/Rockefeller run charge to depopulate and John Holdren of Obama admin fame wrote a book about population control suggesting that mass medication of the water supplies would be a great way to slow down population growth but he knew it was too radical to do in the current environment.
Controlling the resources, getting people off the land, rationing, these are all part of the plan. It's run by elites. Radical environmental groups have signed on to it. It was started in the 70's.

Anyway, that's a start. Will be back later.

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Actually it falls under oppression which I specifically mentioned, why should the people lose a park if they don't want to, they pay for it... it's public land.

I'd be interested to know what kind of shopping mall it is planned to be. Rosa Koire says that they changed the zoning laws and put strip malls in with housing over the shops and are mostly empty. Strange stuff. When I say it's Agenda 21 it may be more than just one group demanding green space and another demanding shopping malls.
But you can bet if Geenpeace is involved it's radical because that is what they do. They have even set up activities and then blamed it on other people, that is how determined they are to force their agenda.

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I didn't realize I needed to make every post an intellectual statement.

To be perfectly honest, I think the protesters are likely making the moves for all the right reasons but are being played for cannon fodder and cheap pawns.

There is TOO much happening in at least 4 different nations at this very moment for this to be a quinky dink of timing and coincidence. I also recall something a few weeks ago about the Kurds quietly pulling out of some of their traditional claims against Turkish land. That seemed very odd to me at the time, given the extensive and violent history of the P.K.K. across 3 nations.

Who knows which side is pulling the strings to throw Turkey off balance or outright throw their current leadership out of power but it probably won't end well. Not a single nation to have fallen this way in the last couple years has come out better for it. Not one. Turkey is in a strategic position and key spot that made it a lynchpin of entire Cold War strategies and they're no less critical for placement and meaning to the geo-politics of the region today. No question there.

So I wish the demonstrators well but at the same time, I just doubt this is what it appears to be for meaning, purpose or leadership where it matters.

Now... I really just like to post something light once in awhile...and not get all intellectual about it. Since you asked though, that would be my analysis on the current civilian protesting in Istanbul and smaller communities in Turkey.

In one sense I agree with Wrabbit2000, not every post has to be brilliantly analytical. (That's the excuse I'm going to use for this one anyway. )

Assume, for a moment, the presence of a large crowd which is violating the laws of a legitimate government. If the decision is made to disperse the crowd, how much more peacefully can it be done than with tear gas and water cannons?

Ok, sure, you can just let them stay where they are, doing what they want, but there are dozen ways of clearing them out which are much more violent. The Chinese will tell you that tanks work very well. So seriously, how much "softer" could the police response have been?

Here is a statement on a Greenpeace webpage that literally talks about Agenda 21 and it's original vision. I told you Greenpeace is part of Agenda 21 and therefore I am 100% convinced that their protest in the park in Istanbul is exactly for pushing Agenda 21.

Political summits should be about delivering the transformational change the world needs.Governments should be launching an action plan to shift world agriculture from its current path and deliver on the original vision
of Agenda 21. The emphasis of priorities within such a plan would vary by region and by country,

www.greenpeace.org...

People need to understand that even an NGO like Greenpeace wants control over the resources.

The fact that the park in Istanbul is supposedly the only park in the city is likely beside the point for them, and only a point in which they can convince people they are right.