David Icke To Launch 'The People's Voice'

Originally posted by MysterX
The BBC didn't report it...

And, your point is? It was reported in countries where there were protests against Monsanto. The only news in the UK is that the two planned protests were a flop. There was a demonstration planned in Bristol on the 25th. No one turned up.

There is too much going on in the world for the BBC to spend valuable news-time commenting on non-events or things that have no interest to your average Briton. As has been shown already, MSM did report this Monsanto event in places where it actually happened.

In the UK there is a lively debate about GMOs. This is widely reported.

Regards

While I'd have to see the channel to make a decision, I'm uncomfortable with this type of solicitation.

Whatever the varying contents of the books and speeches, they are not cheap and actually renowned for being over-priced (at least the new books in SA).

This all sounds a bit like Benny Hinn or televangelist shenanigans.

And for what?
Just to hear that power is corrupt, and that people with AIDS shouldn't take medicines that are proven to work?

The whole schtick comes for free in many other places.
David Icke can be interesting.
Taken too literally it means being dumb and dead.
Actually, Icke himself intimates that not all of what he presents is a gospel truth, but that people should make up their own minds on his various points.

Where did all the money go (yeah we've seen that he lives in a hovel)?
Don't charge R400 for a book and then beg for money.

Does conspiracy theory need televangelists?

Well, it would be nice to have such a channel, but why can't it be opened like any other business, without asking fans for funding?
Clearly the Icke industry is not a charity, so stop the quasi-religious solicitations.

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My point is obvious for anyone to read.

The UK reports on worldwide events that have zero bearing or potential effect on the people from the UK, even events that are not particularly regarded as newsworthy, so because the UK turnout for the March against Monsanto wasn't as high in numbers as other areas of the world, means nothing.

Interntional news is international news, especially when that news concerns people, from around the entire planet, including the UK in direct conflict with a multi-Billion $ biotech corporation who is trying to outlaw non-GMO seeds and crops, and the farmers who want to use and grow them.

That is big news...very, very big news.

If you still can't see my point that the UK's official TV service, the BBC neglected to report these events to inform our people of what is going on in the world, in relation to this thread and my assertion that the UK requires alternative native news sources, such as the one (but not limited to) the one Icke is proposing, i can't help you further.

Hi,
Thanks for sharing!
Mr Icke has presented many people with the 'red or blue pill' cross-roads in life - the result being a renewed mindview of the world.
[no need to address the 'fallacious fallaseers here]
If one wishes to contribute funds to a cause they believe in - even if its a "waste of their money" - tis always better than they who naysay and "waste their breath"...
And for those who are so fundamentally forgiving of the inherent double-talk of media etc., - & for them to be on this site of all places :@ - heres a taste of medicine, its the bitters!!
whoownsthenews


LOVE

Originally posted by MysterX
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If you still can't see my point that the UK's official TV service, the BBC neglected to report these events to inform our people of what is going on in the world, in relation to this thread and my assertion that the UK requires alternative native news sources, such as the one (but not limited to) the one Icke is proposing, i can't help you further.

I couldn't agree more. I often only check the BBC to see what they do not report. If it's reported on another station, and not on the BBC, you can be pretty certain it's a legit story and the BBC blatantly ignore it as it is likely to be damaging to the British government or contrary to foreign/domestic policy at the time. Plenty of goings on in relation to Syria are often unreported by the BBC for example, they still try shoveling the climate change propaganda at every opportunity and ignore real stories with real evidence as was proven to be the case with BBC R4 and the rampant sexual abuse at Oxford College which they completely ignored. But then what do you expect from a gang of state funded rapists and liars?

Originally posted by Hopechest
Wake people up from what exactly?

Are you implying that everything in the MSM is a lie?

What about a certain issue where you have the MSM taking opposing views such as FOX news and MSNBC...certainly you don't think they are in cahoots with each other do you?

Who is this MSM you talk about.

Is it the conservative Washington Post or the NYT....I'm very curious.

I take it controlled opposition is not a concept you are familiar with? Most of what the MSM do, although not always an outright lie, is either obfuscation of the truth or complete spin in order to maintain the status quo. The only stories reported factually are those without political implications, and even then the truth is often skewed to fit one agenda or another. Other than that, their feeble attempts at gaining credibility by reporting "hard hitting" stories are obvious.

How can you tell they're lying? Their lips are moving.

Originally posted by Hopechest
Wake people up from what exactly?

Are you implying that everything in the MSM is a lie?

What about a certain issue where you have the MSM taking opposing views such as FOX news and MSNBC...certainly you don't think they are in cahoots with each other do you?

Who is this MSM you talk about.

Is it the conservative Washington Post or the NYT....I'm very curious.

Of course they're in cahoots together. The illusion of divisiveness is simply a means of controlling the options. Choose neither veiwpoint presented because both benefit the people pulling the strings.

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Cheers.

It's even more outrageous when we consider the scope of this action against Monsanto, when compared to the roughly £5,000,000,000 the BBC gets from UK citizens...the least one would think they could do is actually broadcast news that concerns us!

Now...a cat stuck up a tree? Another story altogether...the BBC would probably have two news vans racing to get the scoop!

Originally posted by Sankari
Now Icke is starting a channel to promote the agenda and lies of his own cult. I don't think that's an improvement on the mainstream media.

edit on 1/6/13 by Sankari because: typo...

Greetings,

Some lies yes. BUT, he has exposed the banking cartel and exposed them many, many years a go. He exposed Jimmy Saville in his sexual sickness many, many years a go...I could go on but what's the point, it would be like explaining how good swimming is to someone who is afraid of water.

I agree with you yes that Icke has " some " far out theories however, they are NOT all lies. This alone would be great for mainstream TV.

And yes, before you attack me, I do agree that this is a money making scam from Icke and I really wish He had read ATS before going about this. He then would have realised that he would be flamed for asking so much.

Having said that, he is not asking you, or me, or anyone else that doesn't agree with him. Those that do, will. Those that dont, then move on and leave him alone

Be safe be well

Spiro

Originally posted by Hopechest
Wake people up from what exactly?

Are you implying that everything in the MSM is a lie?

What about a certain issue where you have the MSM taking opposing views such as FOX news and MSNBC...certainly you don't think they are in cahoots with each other do you?

Who is this MSM you talk about.

Is it the conservative Washington Post or the NYT....I'm very curious.

Greetings,

You are being very rude. You have been here long enough to know who and what the MSN are. Stop looking for an argument ffs

Spiro

Originally posted by Sankari
Of course it does. But it's paid to the government, not to some great big scary monster called 'the mainstream media.'

No its not, the BBC is a private organisation that is funded by the people through tv subscription. The funding then goes in to making the BBC better.

The BBC is a corporation, independent from direct government intervention, with its activities being overseen by the BBC Trust (formerly the Board of Governors).[46] General management of the organisation is in the hands of a Director-General, who is appointed by the Trust; he is the BBC's Editor-in-Chief and chairs the Executive Board

Cheers

Be safe be well

Spiro

Originally posted by Sankari
No it doesn't. The TV licence doesn't go to the mainstream media, it goes to the government. The government requires this money by law, not the mainstream media.

You obviously dont live in the UK. It does go to mainstream media [at least partial] becuase they need funding to improve. The money goes nowhere near the government.

For reasons see my post above.

Be safe be well

Spiro

Originally posted by Hopechest

Originally posted by Wonderer2012

Originally posted by Sankari

Originally posted by Wonderer2012
I don't know, perhaps the ongoing Syria propaganda ignoring the fact that the west and allies have placed rebels in Syria to destroy the country, all the while telling us Assad is killing innocent civilians by their thousands?

The mainstream media has constantly and extensively reported on every aspect of the Syrian situation, without ignoring any of the facts. Apparently you haven't been paying attention.

I haven't seen any evidence that 'the west and allies have placed rebels in Syria to destroy the country.' Can you show me the proof please?

Originally posted by Wonderer2012
It's the 'people's voice', anyone will be able to have their imput from anywhere in the world.

No they won't. You need to give Icke $10,000 to get on his show for an hour. So it's not 'the people's voice' at all. It's 'David Icke's voice, occasionally supplemented by the voice of rich people who agree with him.'

This project would serve as a platform for people to avoid the censorship and control of the MSM which only promotes the agenda and lies of their controllers.

There are literally hundreds of platforms for people to avoid the mainstream media, and most of them are already online. Now Icke is starting a channel to promote the agenda and lies of his own cult. I don't think that's an improvement on the mainstream media.

edit on 1/6/13 by Sankari because: typo...

You think CBS, CNN and FOX coverage over the last few years on Syria has been truthful and fair to both sides?

Good one

'Assad kills civilians', 'Assad kills more civilians', 'even more dead in Syria as Assad kills more civilians'...

We are talking MSM here which, according you guys, encompasses almost every issue. Apparently there is a grand conspiracy among all these news agencies to direct the masses in certain directions. This would entail far more than just the Syria issue or even two or three issues. It would have to be almost all of them.

Do you really see all the news organizations having the same view on everything?

Do you think "republicans" and "democrats" have the same view on everything? How about if I re-frame it as "liberals" and "conservatives?" Of course they don't. But the two-party system is still a complete sham. You are given conflicting views to create the illusion of variety, when in reality you are being spoon-fed the select range of views TPTB want you to see. Just like it creates the illusion of free choice in politics, this creates the illusion of freedom in the media-- when in reality most of the many thousands of media outlets are all owned, at the top, by a very few globally-powerful corporations with all kinds of political ties and allegiances.

The fact that you can't see this does not speak well for you.

I welcome another view on modern troubles.
We take the good, take the bad, take them both ....

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Are you freaking kidding me !! This guy will not give up ! He has to raise the money before he will start it....why is that not a surprise. Another scam from the artist of all scams and again people will get sucked in and get nothing out of it...I seriously doubt anything will ever develop and since he is a fraud and wacko it will not amount to anything.

To stop the brainwashing of people...who will stop Icke from brainwashing the people...I am laughing so hard right now...this is truly epic coming from Icke...unbelievable that people keep falling for this...and its not even a broadcast station ? Instead a streaming internet site...what gall to to ask people for a hundred thousand dollars to do what I can do today with a 50 dollar camera and an internet connection.

I, personally, have a great amount of disdain for Icke. However, if this will be all he says it can and will be, I think it's a great idea. Propaganda is everywhere. No one is asking you to give up your "MSM" for this. If you don't agree, don't like it, then ignore it. Or, go between the "MSM" and this - compare.
I HATE that he's (once again) asking for "donations". But no one has to give anything if they don't want to.
Again I say - Propaganda IS EVERYWHERE. Don't label one thing as propaganda when propaganda is all around you.
Think for yourself.

I cant believe people still focus on the reptile thing.

I watched an 8 hr (yes 8hr!!!) talk by him and reptiles took up maybe 25 min.

The man has some remarkable and insightful things to say on a huge range of topics and almost all of it I agree with.
Id be interested to hear suggestions from people on who they think can better articulate the banking scam than Icke.

Forget the Son of God thing which was like 40+ years ago, forget the reptile thing, maybe its a metaphor, maybe he says it to deliberately discredit himself, maybe its true but either way listen with an open mind to what else he has to say and Id be surprised if you didnt agree with him.

I wont be giving money but I think its a great PR idea, 100K isnt gonna cover much, maybe costs for 2 months if he has 5 staff so its not a money making scam.
I think its to prove to non fans he has a committed following who are prepared to pay to listen to him, it will make him seem more mainstream.

Good luck to him

Wow,what an original idea!
Oh,wait,isnt there already an Alex Jones for this?
No,thanks. One fear mongering,money grabbing tool is enough.
I'll pass.

It is going to be an online show?

Internet - pay. ummmm, no, I will just wait till someone uploads it to youtube.

He is too late... He wont be able to change anything!