NY ro LA in 45 minutes

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You heard right my friends. A company named EC3 is proposing a tube transport system that will travel using magmetic levitation to eliminate friction, thus, allowing for projected speeds of 4,000 mph. Do you think this idea will fly, ATS?

Saw this earlier. Would be a fun ride.
Probably won't be affordable though.

Travelling at 4,000 mph? What about the effects of G Force on passengers travelling at that speed.

Edit: sorry just read the article apparently the passengers will only feel 1G of force how does that work?

reply to post by ThePeaceMaker



since we are on earth you have only 1G downward force....a constant. Now acceleration can cause extreme G's like being in a top fuel dragster or the x-43 accelerating to mach 9+ or how about the space shuttle on launch hitting mach 20. With the wind resistance/friction created during liftoff the shuttle only launches at 3G's, any faster and it would rip apart from the drag inside the atmo.

You can accelerate to max speed over great distances slowly to negate the negative effects of the G forces on your body.

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Thanks for the reply .. After posting my silly reply I pondered on how it would work and pretty much told myself what you just said. Next question I wonder how long this train would be, 6 persons per one capsule. I can see this being something for the rich and famous

Small cars like a beer can shoved into a tube with a vacuum drawn all supported and motivated my electromagnetic propulsion.....a perfect frictionless environment.

I dont remember exactly but i think every time vehicle speed doubles wind resistance quadruples.

I hope they make this happen, it would be awesome and i mean awesome, this would make travel so cheap.

It would be cheap but surely the cost of making it and developing it to a working mode of transport would be quite high. I don't see tickets being cheap .. I see it as a Concorde type of travel fast but expensive those who can only afford it would be able to take advantage of this .. Maybe I'm wrong either way I probably won't get a chance to expierence. The UK would never build anything like this

A constant velocity at the same height, generates no acceleration and hence no Gs. The acceleration and hence the Gs would occur at start and stop of the train. I wonder what the death toll of this technology will be? Would you be the first human test passenger?

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Look at the bright side? At 4,000 Mph, I don't think the human nervous system would even have physical ability to register the fact an accident happened or death had come. It would redefine the term instant for DOA.

In fact, I'm not really sure there would be anything recognizably human left with a sudden deceleration from that speed. Maybe a pink mist? A BIG cloud of it..depending on size of the train I guess. Ewww.. I'd hate to be a responder to that wreck site. Bring small baggies. Thousands of them.

I think technology is a weeee behind making this happen.

pfffff

don't they know these already exist, connecting area 51, dulce, denver airport, the whitehouse etc etc

your just not high enough up the food chain to use them

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
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Look at the bright side? At 4,000 Mph, I don't think the human nervous system would even have physical ability to register the fact an accident happened or death had come. It would redefine the term instant for DOA.

In fact, I'm not really sure there would be anything recognizably human left with a sudden deceleration from that speed. Maybe a pink mist? A BIG cloud of it..depending on size of the train I guess. Ewww.. I'd hate to be a responder to that wreck site. Bring small baggies. Thousands of them.

I think technology is a weeee behind making this happen.

One of the few times I disagree with you sir Wrabbit.

I believe we have this technology now but that it is being suppressed.

This is why I'm on a conspiracy forum.

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I guess that might be true about already having the technology. But what is this about being able to make that long of a tunnel all of a sudden? I see - they are tubes. It seems entirely feasible, except for maybe the part about all the tubing and stuff that is needed.

Originally posted by darkbake
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I guess that might be true about already having the technology. But what is this about being able to make that long of a tunnel all of a sudden? I see - they are tubes. It seems entirely feasible, except for maybe the part about all the tubing and stuff.

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We know from history that once something becomes commercialized, the government has already gone far beyond it.

I forget the name of our resident aircraft expert here but I'm sure he would attest to the fact that the aircraft industry and the military are often far ahead of what becomes public.

I don't see this happening any time soon for the same reasons that all other US high speed rail plans failed over the years. First, highways and airports are some of the biggest money makers for the government. Second, and probably the biggest reason, is that this could significantly reduce fuel consumption, and big oil would not be happy with this. There's a reason why civilian transportation technologies have been at a virtual standstill for the past several decades.

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A pink mist is about all that would be left at that speed.

Prime target for the billions of Terrorists they keep on about 24/7.

If the tunnel or tube was compromised with a small bomb or obstruction, the whole thing would go up like a mini-nuke with those kinds of forces involved.

I'm probably just lucky enough to be riding in the one that comes along about 30 seconds after a drunken redneck has crashed into the support beam with his truck, causing the tube to separate. Yaaay!! I can't wait.







After thinking about it for a minute, I highly doubt that NY to L.A. would be only 45 minutes. I doubt they'll put in one tube that has no stops in between. You'll probably be stopping in at least 1 major city in each State along the way. Also, there will still be lines, and checkpoints where you can still receive some good 'ol fashioned fondling from the friendly folks from TSA.

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Originally posted by darkbake

I guess that might be true about already having the technology. But what is this about being able to make that long of a tunnel all of a sudden? I see - they are tubes. It seems entirely feasible, except for maybe the part about all the tubing and stuff that is needed.

Obviously, they're gonna need some metal too, and magnets(???maybe), and whatever else, but it looks the tubes are made from plastic. They will probably take the green approach, while trying to successfully convince a majority of the public that this is a good thing.


Maybe something similar to: [color=52C452]"Our tubes will be made out of 100% recycled plastics. So not only are we creating a better tomorrow through our new mode of transportation that doesn't rely on fossil fuels, and does not create all of those nasty emissions, but we will also be helping to rid the Planet of plastic trash."







After typing that↑, I think I'm now starting to convince myself that this may not be such a bad idea after all..

Originally posted by shaneslaughta
Small cars like a beer can shoved into a tube with a vacuum drawn all supported and motivated my electromagnetic propulsion.....a perfect frictionless environment.

I dont remember exactly but i think every time vehicle speed doubles wind resistance quadruples.

I hope they make this happen, it would be awesome and i mean awesome, this would make travel so cheap.

But if you create a vacuum, the suction is basically the wind resistance/drag working for you. Much like those pneumatic tube systems that old office blocks used for communication. They folded letters, forms, small packets into hollow cylindrical capsule, placed the container in the hatch, closed the cover, and left the capsule go on its way.

sounds good in theory but go look up the episode of seaquest third season i belive they had a trtavel system just like this. but what happens if tube gets a leak and outside air comes in what happens if you have to do an emergency stop ph yeah you go splat. but for moving cargo this would be cool.

Something like a honeycombed resin would be better material for the tubes, imo. At those speeds the potential for disaster is tremendous. Plastic is brittle. How is a plastic tube gonna stand up to an earthquake?

This will definitely be cool when it gets going though. And I disagree with the folks saying this will be expensive. Negatory. They will have too much capital wrapped up in production costs. They will need to sell lots of tickets to recoop costs.