Undeniable Proof of Intelligent Design.

I've cobbled this together from my previous posts in different threads. By clicking on the linked post in the quote you can follow the discussion and find additional information.

This video is just a primer to get you started down this investigative path.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by NewAgeMan

 

A Perfect Reflection

But ONLY at this moment in earth evolution when there are self aware and reflective sentient observers on earth to observe it (in early earth history the moon appeared much much larger being much closer to the earth).

I say it's an allegory, intended for our recognition by God as the first/last cause and designer. Talk about far reaching control of space and time and matter though..

People wanted evidence, well there it is right before our very eyes and in our midst so that it's unmistakable and undeniable.

And if you'd like to call it a pure "coincidence" I'm more than prepared to have that debate with you and show you how utterly preposterous such a notion is when the entire earth-moon-sun configuration is taken into account, along with the whole process of cosmic and earth evolution in favor of life.

Regards,

NAM

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by ignorant_ape

 

The moon in ancient earth history used to be much closer to the earth, the powerful tidal forces of which would have helped to drive the process of evolution by causing salt water to pool far inland breaking up molecular recombinations, but it's only now, when there are self aware sentient observers that the apparent visible circumference of the moon is identical to that of the sun, where at full moon it is a perfect reflection, and also during total eclipse, both solar, with the circumference of the moon blotting out the sun and lunar, with the shadow of the earth circumferencing the moon. The moon is also responsible for dynamic equilibrium balancing of the earth's wobble and tilt responsible for the seasons and the cycle of life, including the process of human fertilization and gestation. In short the moon-earth-sun relationship is the cause of life on earth as we enjoy it today, including the presence of liquid water over 90% of the earth's surface.

The full moon also mimics the sun, by rising at night, and by chasing the sun on a monthly basis such that at opposite winter/summer solstices the full moon rises at a degree equidistant to due north of that of the rising sun, and yet the moon orbits the earth and the earth, the sun.

Such things are only significant however, to an earth-based, sentient observer. As you yourself said

Originally posted by ignorant_ape

eclipses just happen - they serve no actual emperical benefit to any terestrial organism

The only counter argument is fluke/coincidence, and yet any investigative study will show that the earth-moon-sun relationship is perfectly configured in favor of life.

There's a lot more data than this too some of which reveals that something very unusual took place during the formation of the earth whereby presently held theories of moon formation must be discarded ie: the double-whack theory by unknown rogue planetoid for example.

The main point of this little thesis, aside from the Jesus bit with his use of a lunar eclipse as some sort of spiritual-cosmic theodolite (lens), resides in our ability to look at effects from first causes and recognize intelligent design.

You can argue coincidence or random happenstance if you like, but it's a rather poor argument in the face of all the evidence and data to the contrary which points to a comic evolutionary process intentionally directed towards life, including life as we know it, and even human life. And if by design then it was by anticipation from the very beginning of time and space with the present outcome and effect enfolded in the originating cause, and that's not only intelligent, but what I call super-intelligent or infinitely intelligent.


But wait there's more..

In the diagram above, the big triangle is the same proportion and angle of the Great Pyramid, with its base angles at 51 degrees 51 minutes. If you bisect this triangle and assign a value of 1 to each base, then the hypotenuse (the side opposite the right angle) equals phi (1.618..) and the perpendicular side equals the square root of phi. And that’s not all. A circle is drawn with it’s centre and diameter the same as the base of the large triangle. This represents the circumference of the earth. A square is then drawn to touch the outside of the earth circle. A second circle is then drawn around the first one, with its circumference equal to the perimeter of the square. (The squaring of the circle.)

This new circle will actually pass exactly through the apex of the pyramid. And now the “wow”: A circle drawn with its centre at the apex of the pyramid and its radius just long enough to touch the earth circle, will have the circumference of the moon! Neat, huh! And the small triangle formed by the moon and the earth square will be a perfect 345 triangle

Ref: geometry.wholesomebalance.com...
Ref 2: nexusilluminati.blogspot.ca...
Ref 3: Strange Moon Facts

Although I am with you on this (the pyramid is just the tip of the iceberg), never say undeniable proof on ATS without an alien on the autopsy table...

How about you write a short summary - in your own words - about the big claim you make in your thread title, instead of copy pasting incoherent new-age gibberish off random internet sites.

Thank you.

Until you can prove that no other planet in our milky way does not have a similar moon,planet,sun eclipse going on I think you can say it is a coincidence.
Yes it is a wonderful thing and maybe we are really lucky to have it but to prove intelligent design it does not.

Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
How about you write a short summary - in your own words - about the big claim you make in your thread title, instead of copy pasting incoherent new-age gibberish off random internet sites.

Thank you.

um...incoherent new-age gibberish, what?! What are you talking about. Those references are from posts I've made here at ATS, and what's been presented is entirely coherent.

That said I'll be happy as this thread progresses to highlight and illustrate what's been presented for those who can't grasp it or who can't read..

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by Overtime
reply to post by NewAgeMan

 

Thanks for making me wonder about the moons origins, I hadn't considered it for a while but I am very skeptical a bunch of rocks from a planet collision with Earth happened to collect at that exact distance to make all that possible.

Because the moon in early earth history was much closer to the Earth (it's still moving away at about 3cm/yr)

Early Earth's

Ocean Tides..

Moved far far inland, with salt water breaking up molecular re-combinations on a continual basis, thus driving a rapid process of evolution early in earth's history.

It is only now in Earth history, however, when man has fully evolved and is capable of observation, that the moon perfectly eclipses the sun.

So the moon is like a machine or a program of sorts running a program (whether by coincidence or not) in favor of the evolution of life on earth, in it's relationship to the Earth, as well as the sun and by extension the planets.

The moon is the Rosetta stone of the planets."
—Robert Jastrow
First Chairman, NASA Lunar Exploration Committee

"The moon is the mother of the universe."
~ Ancient Egyptian saying.

Strange Moon Facts

I don't see your proof.
Can you sum up?

reply to post by boymonkey74

It's not just the perfect eclipse. Look at the additional data regarding the geometrical relationship between the moon and the earth as well, which has to be taken into consideration also and at the same time.

reply to post by grey580

Please try to digest the information presented first and then ask a question, but sure I'll come back later and post a summation no problem although I don't have the time right now got to get back to work, but I think it's clear once you grasp the framework, which forces a person to discount the random happenstance / coincidence theory.

To clarify still further - it's perfectly designed in favor of life as we know it.

reply to post by NewAgeMan


We all know the without the moon we would not be here and I understand it all but how does this prove intelligent design? big big universe with many random elements happening all the time.
We are lucky that the moon has done its thing to help the earth and to help life grow but it could all just be random.
Just because we don't know why doesn't mean God did it.

reply to post by boymonkey74

Please carefully analyze and come to grips with the geometrical relationships involved, and then we'll have the debate, with you arguing for random coincidence and me for intentional design in favor of life arising from a first cause since it's framed relative to the rest of the galaxy and cosmos.

reply to post by boymonkey74

Just because we don't know why doesn't mean God did it.

Pretty much the moral of this story.

The Earth isn't a sphere, nor is it a perfect circle.


How does the Earth's actual shape fit the math and/or images you posted?

reply to post by AfterInfinity

All I am attempting to show is that it was made by design in favor of life thus denoting an intent or a purpose.

Originally posted by MmmPie
The Earth isn't a sphere

Or aliens put the moon there to help the earth grow life...that is also intelligent design isn't it?
Also the moon is a little close in those drawings lol.
We are lucky or are we? is this a once in a universe event or do all planets with life have something the same? maybe for life to get a solid foothold on a planet that planet needs a moon to help it?
Until we know about other planets and other solar systems neither of us can really say anything, lets just hope we keep on looking and lets not jump to the conclusion man has always said when we just do not know...Must be God (aliens are a better bet though ).

Ummm...... Undeniable proof coincidences are interesting.

reply to post by danneu89

"Coincidence" is a false assumption, or certainly a rather far reaching one.

Deny ignorance!

Catch ya'll later for the debate, of coincidence vs. intelligent design. Please review the info though very carefully.. thanks.

Best regards,

NAM

Originally posted by boymonkey74
Or aliens put the moon there to help the earth grow life...that is also intelligent design isn't it?
Also the moon is a little close in those drawings lol.

Yes, but they would have had to have been hard at work 4.5 billion years ago, and capable of also building the solar system and thus the galaxy by extension..

As to that graphic, it's to show the geometrical relationship between the diameter of the moon in relation to the earth, c'mon you can see that right?

reply to post by NewAgeMan


Given the age of the universe and IF there were stage 3 civilizations then yes it is possible.
Much more believable than "God did it".

Oh and yes hence the lol.