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Originally posted by UnholyP
"Omgflol dude i like pre-marital sex and i can't have it, youre bunch of losers!111!" ....they lash out, usually by spreading crap in threads like these. By any standards, they are complete morons.
Originally posted by intrepid
Originally posted by Emily_Cragg
They're so busy watching dates, they pay no attention to doing and teaching the law, being hospitable and tolerant, caring for widows or orphans or practicing Mercy.
What they do is advertise, advertise, advertise. And that's where it stops.
I was a Witness from 1965-1977, and they are the most inhospitable bunch of self-righteous dogmatized individuals I have ever dealt with.
Thought Control and copying each other is all they seem to know how to do. I was "dissociated" because I dared to question the WT Society in Brooklyn about the accuracy of their own brand of Greek Interlinear Translation.
Being thrown out is not a behavioral issue with them, nor a matter of creating physical harm, although they are being sued because they have refused to repudiate "servants" who practice child molesting.
They'll throw out anybody whose thought patterns are incompatible with their own. Pharisees, with a Christian twist.
Anybody want to argue this?
Sure, I will. They haven't watched dates in years, once bitten.
They are extremely hospitable, usually within their own faith but would help a nonbeliever as well.
That fact about the child-molesters is laughable. They will disfellowship someone for smoking, personal experience, but will tolllerate abuse?
Not coming to their defence but what you posted was totally wrong. On second thought, maybe I did come to their defence.
Originally posted by ZeroDeep
They can always practice secretly. Like witches did.
They're too worried about not being saved.
According to them, 144,000 will be saved of their faith, of course
Are there not more than 144,000 to begin with? Will they be fighting with themselves at the end times or something?
Deep
Originally posted by DonniW
Well unfortunately I can tell you from my own personal experiences with this group as a child that these are very wicked and cruel people as a whole. While at first contact they may seem all sweetness and sugar, while they try to convert you to their beliefs in almost quota fulfilling manner, once on the inside it soon becomes quite apparent that you are constantly being judged and publically ridiculed, there is no tolerance for questioning of any sort unless it is in a staged environment that will further their own self rightous and predudiced beliefs.
Prior to 1975 we as children were told that if we were not baptised by 1975 when armageddon came then we would die and that parent would turn their backs on us and do nothing to prevent it. In order to be baptised we had to do many many hours of door to door ministry over 100 hrs a month (often having to go to doors completely by ourselves). We were also required to perform sermons and staged play like situations in front of the congregation that were judged and commented on publically by the elders of the church in front of the congregation. We were told that we had to turn our backs on anyone not of the "faith" as they were never to be our friends only mere aquaintences. We were admonished to never try to "fit-in" as we "were not of this world" and were not allowed to participate in any after- school activities or sports. As a child of eleven I spent the night at my friends house, when her older brother came home drunk he attempted to make inappropriate and unwelcome advances on me while I slept. Awakening immediatly I prevented anything from happening and he stumbled off to his room to sleep, I told my friend what had happened and she told her mother as this was not the first time he had tried to assalt one of her friends. For some reason I was brought before a panel of 5 elders and my mother for 5 hours being grilled and was reduced to tears many times by the cruel comments and accusations that I must have wanted him to do these things and that I was unclean etc. even after being medically examined and cleared as a virgin I was forced to sit in church as they told everyone that they were to have nothing to do with me as I was guilty of unchristian-like behavior of a sexual nature. This was all done with my mothers complete approval and went on to last for three years. Let me repeat I was still a virgin, Eleven Years old! No I am sorry, I have seen the evil they are!
Originally posted by UnholyP
99,9% of this thread about JWs is utter and complete BS. . . . . . . . . . . .
Don't listen to ex-JW, because they have usually taken disfellowshipping personally and haven't even thought of changing, like "Omgflol dude i like pre-marital sex and i can't have it, youre bunch of losers!111!" ....they lash out, usually by spreading crap in threads like these. By any standards, they are complete morons.
P.S. We always pray for the people that have less and that God would ease the pain of the ones suffering around the world.
Originally posted by Brad_cf
Originally posted by UnholyP
99,9% of this thread about JWs is utter and complete BS. . . . . . . . . . . .
Don't listen to ex-JW, because they have usually taken disfellowshipping personally and haven't even thought of changing, like "Omgflol dude i like pre-marital sex and i can't have it, youre bunch of losers!111!" ....they lash out, usually by spreading crap in threads like these. By any standards, they are complete morons.
P.S. We always pray for the people that have less and that God would ease the pain of the ones suffering around the world.
basically yes , people disfellowshipped have the internet to vent on
laws exist in the JW religon , biblical laws & are they are enforced
people are only "throwen out" if they dont want to live by them , its their own choice ( as in they are un-repentant)
no religon is perfect , God knows the weaknesses of each human being - every effort is made to help people to grow stronger spritually - & thats why the bible is the main thing studied in the JW religon . dis-fellowshipped people are still welcome to attend meetings .
Elders are put into positions of spiritual responsibilty before God - the spiritual health of their congregation is their responsibility . disfellowshipping one is never a joyfull thing because of what it means for the person involved
Originally posted by Wisconsin
So, how long how you been a JW elder.
Originally posted by dgtempe
Some of you are being unfair to JW's. My best friend while in High School was a JW, along with her entire family. They were very caring and loving people!
I remember them fondly and wish i hadnt lost touch with them.
Originally posted by Brad_cf
personally i find it true how the love apostates had at first turns into an even greater hate
Originally posted by smallpeeps
Originally posted by Brad_cf
personally i find it true how the love apostates had at first turns into an even greater hate
You are so deluded it's sad, brad.
See, when the JW's grab a weak person at the door, that new member doesn't have much information in their heads. The JWs say they are looking for "those conscious of their spiritual need" but really they are looking for "those weak enough to fall for our cult techniques".
We can see here how cold and inhumane you are toward those who have spoken of person attempted rape and other trauma. So typical of JW drones whose hearts are obediently frozen. How many friends have you lost to Satan's world? Have you ever had a JW associate kill themselves? Was their funeral held inside the Kingdom Hall?
Do you deny these facts about The Watchtower church?:
- JWs are forbidden from reading certain books or discussing them
- JWs must never interpret the bible themselves.
- JWs must never provide comfort to a "sinner", but must shun them.
...And of course as a result of the above truths:
- JWs don't get smarter
- JWs don't understand God
- JWs are violating Jesus' commandment of mercifulness
This is how I understand your religion to work, but you can correct me here if I am misunderstanding something. ...Oh BTW, did you have any comment about the proof I posted RE: the Watchtower's secret collusion with the UN? What excuse did they give you for that? Isn't it sad how the Governing Body does one thing but tells the followers to do another? As you know, Mexican JWs got tortured and killed and most American JWs didn't know a thing about what the GB was doing down there.
Anyway, I'm sure that if you preach to us here some more, that the word of God will shine through and all this idiocy can make sense. If you type here enough, they may even let you count your hours and report them. Gotta keep those hours up, right?
Originally posted by Cerebral Souldier
Originally posted by intrepid
Um, no. They believe they have to share the Truth with EVERYONE. Keep on believing what you want though.
Hard to debate when one is so full of hate but I will try. I didn't see any coldness towards Donni. Only compassion from ALL members, JW or not.
You are right with the funeral though, a person that commits suicide wouldn't have their funeral in the KH as suicide is a rejection of the gift of life from God. That might have changed over the years but I doubt it.
Snipped the ridiculous Koresh statement.
1- Yup.
2- Nope, thought and discussion on the Bible is ENCOURAGED.
3- Nope, we're all sinners dude, that would be a lonely life if anyone did what you say they do. However, a person that is unrepentant, continued to do whatever they shoudn't are disfellowshiped, they are given every opportunity to stop whatever it is they're doing before hand though AND are allowed back if they turn things around. In between YES, JW's wouldn't associate with them.
Whatever dude.
No you don't understand at all. JW's want NO part of this "system of things", that includes the UN.
One can only hope that a little light will shine here. BTW, I'm not counting anything, the only thing I'm doing here is denying ignorance.
Originally posted by Bikereddie
It seems to me , aimed at all religions.. but i cant help wetting myself laughing here at the total idea and people believing it to be the truth..
Its a wind up.