Man Linked to Boston Bombing Suspect Was Unarmed When Shot in Violent Encounter With FBI, Officials

reply to post by roadgravel

Maybe he wanted to be on his own turf for a reason. If the FBI believed he was really involved I would think they could force him to go there. Would'nt having a recording using their fancy equipment be useful in a trial.

This also seems very strange to me. If the FBI wants to interview you, you go to them. Can you imagine saying "you know what guys I'm exhausted - you need to come here".

Why did he want that and why did they agree?

I posted this in the other thread. I think the apartment belonged to some one tied to Russian Intelligence. I think the Ibragim Todashev thought he was at a safe place to meet the FBI by being at a Russian agents house.

Originally posted by JBA2848
www.orlandosentinel.com...

Todashev was shot in a condo at 6022 Peregrine Ave. in the Windhover community, a quiet residential area near Universal Studios. Todashev's home address is in Kissimmee; it's not clear why he was at the Orlando apartment or why he was being questioned there.

The really strange thing is when you look at Shakhmanov Roman. Is he a neighbor or was it his room?Think he owns the building.

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Shakhmanov Roman has two buddies on his list.

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Alexey Chikov
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Branch / Unit:The military prosecutor's office Bryansk Russia, 2010-2011

And he is also tied to Kaspersjy Labs Antivirus compnay.

Alexey Bragin
vk.com...

President of the Russian Federation - "It [ReactOS] very interesting project actually"

Operating System used to run windows software without windows needed?
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This guy who lives there in that building Shakhmanov Roman sounds like a Russian intelligence agent.

edit on 22-5-2013 by JBA2848 because: (no reason given)

reply to post by roadgravel


I can't help but think that Todashev wanted them on his turf for a reason too.

Even though I think that he most likely did implicate himself in the triple slayings (purely by stupid and unintentional comments made by his wife), I still have a hard time believing that he was even close to signing a confession.

Originally posted by JBA2848
I posted this in the other thread. I think the apartment belonged to some one tied to Russian Intelligence. I think the Ibragim Todashev thought he was at a safe place to meet the FBI by being at a Russian agents house.
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Thank you.
I thought it might have been in discussion with you, that this information had come to light.
So - again - If (as your references suggest) this was not Todashev's "place"...why would "his stuff" be there (much less - mounted on the wall)?

Originally posted by Maluhia
...This also seems very strange to me. If the FBI wants to interview you, you go to them. Can you imagine saying "you know what guys I'm exhausted - you need to come here".

Why did he want that and why did they agree?

I find your rationale compelling.
And, as JBA2848 has brought to light, it wasn't even his apartment/townhome -- and there were questions from the start as to "why" he was there (when he lived in Kissimmee).
Whether he was being honest or not - the day the shooting was made public, his friends were saying he believed this "interview" would be the last - and not with an implication of - because I'm gonna be dead afterward.

Originally posted by Deetermined
...I still have a hard time believing that he was even close to signing a confession.

I am in utter agreement with this statement.
Whether he was involved or not - I find it hard to imagine going through the process of deny, deny, deny...then, breaking down with the weight of evidence (circumstantial or otherwise)...and...admit it...and wait for them to write up the "statement"/"confession"...then...lose it when they hand the pen over.

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You're right, Todashev's family was pretty familiar with the sword. I doubt that it would belong to anyone else.

After seeing this picture of the front door of the condo, I have a hard time believing that it would belong to anyone involved in intelligence matters either.

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Originally posted by WanDash

Originally posted by Deetermined
...I still have a hard time believing that he was even close to signing a confession.

I am in utter agreement with this statement.
Whether he was involved or not - I find it hard to imagine going through the process of deny, deny, deny...then, breaking down with the weight of evidence (circumstantial or otherwise)...and...admit it...and wait for them to write up the "statement"/"confession"...then...lose it when they hand the pen over.

Actually, that made me laugh, because some of the first reports I read said that Todashev lunged at the agent with the pen! LOL!

So the FBI is going to interview in the apartment of a Russian agent. Or they didn't know it but others did?

Seems a little odd. Getting stranger.

Edit:

Any bets that the apartment is now bugged by the FBI.

reply to post by roadgravel


He is a Russian he is not American. He was here on a green card. Would you want to go to a interview in a foreign country with out some one there on your side? So I think he met them at a Russian agents house just to be safe. And it did not work out well for him. He got killed. And it is not quite like this Russian houses located near where Obama played golf with Tiger Woods but would not allow the press.

Houses built for Russian Embassy in Florida.
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And if you want to see how bad these houses stand out. Take a look at the neighbor hood they are in.

These houses are across the street.
goo.gl...

reply to post by JBA2848


That makes sense but I find it hard to believe the FBI would operate in such a manner. It makes me think they had additional plans wrapped into it.

reply to post by roadgravel


Talk about plans. What about President Obama's NSA guy Thomas E. "Tom" Donilon. He flew into Russia the day before the Boston Bombing for meetings with his Russian counterparts while the Boston Bombing was taking place. Did he just happen to be there? How about all the social media the bombers used being modified for spying after the events. VK is now directly linked to Facebook Joey software. VK was also bought out by Putins good friend. The one guy who did not sell was placed under arrest. I am not sure what Joey software is but it should be interesting. Instagram added data mining software to it also. Every thing around these guys is crazy.

reply to post by Maluhia


They molded the cover story before they plastered it everywhere.

Did the guy really do it? Who knows.

Now we'll never know for sure, because, MAGICALLY, now he can't speak.

Attack an unarmed man, then screw his throat up so he can't tell his side.

I don't know the conspiracy for sure (other than CISPA being passed when everyone freaked out about Boston), but something is definitely fitting loosely here.

‘Indications of extrajudicial killing’
Todashev’s killing “shows signs of international human rights violations,” and “indications of an extrajudicial killing,” war correspondent, political analyst, and member of the Presidential Council of Human Rights Maksim Shevchenko, said at the RIA conference. It looks like a “cold-blooded murder,” he claimed.

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Maksim Shevchenko is also the same person who video taped the father and put him on TV. The guy is a real piece of work if you look at his past. Take what he says with a few shovels of salt.

reply to post by Danbones

Also from your link

Investigative journalist and former Los Angeles police officer, Mike Ruppert offered his professional opinion to RT, finding two major issues with the official story (given that he himself had been in a similar predicament as an officer years before the incident). Firstly, the standard operating procedures were out the window; and secondly, the FBI itself appears to have set the situation up.

“There’s an escalation-of-force scale which was obviously not followed in this case”, he said, referring to the officers’ decision to draw firearms. “But my second huge problem with the law enforcement story is he (Todashev) was supposed to be signing a confession to a triple murder…I don’t care even if you are the FBI – which doesn’t have a good reputation – you have somebody who’s about to sign a confession, you have him in a jail house, in a secure setting, and the police officers around him are not armed because he’s in a secure setting. For the FBI, this was, at best, horribly mishandled. But it sounds to me very much like they went there with the intent to provoke him and stage a shooting,” Ruppert went on, recounting a similar shooting from decades ago.

The muslim was a MMA fighter and he attacked the agent who had a gun. If the muslim gained control of the gun guess what would have happened. What would you do? Let him take your gun and shoot you or shoot him 1st. If you say you wouldn't shoot him your not very smart or I'd assume your a liberal.

Big deal! He killed some innocent people and deserved to die, they just saved the taxpayers a lot of money!
Don't forget, a terrorist doesn't have the same rights as you and I!
Besides, his brother did the coup de grâce when he treated him as a speed bump and ran over him!
No tears from me!

you cant question the dead on what really happened.......

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Interesting isn't it - you'll probably find this thread intriguing

List of dead connected to Obama administration