Egyptian Pyramids indicate Alien contact

reply to post by Harte


He misspelled Hoimar von Ditfurth's name?

He wrote: Hoimar von Dithfurt

reply to post by AlienView


I just posted this in another forum earlier today, which I think is applicable to this thread and it's line of inquiry. It has to do with the cosmologically unique earth-moon-sun relationship, and the Great Pyramid as the measure of the diameter of the earth, and the moon. Please feel free to follow the thread in terms of how this post came about to find out more..

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by ignorant_ape

 

The moon in ancient earth history used to be much closer to the earth, the powerful tidal forces of which would have helped to drive the process of evolution by causing salt water to pool far inland breaking up molecular recombinations, but it's only now, when there are self aware sentient observers that the apparent visible circumference of the moon is identical to that of the sun, where at full moon it is a perfect reflection, and also during total eclipse, both solar, with the circumference of the moon blotting out the sun and lunar, with the shadow of the earth circumferencing the moon. The moon is also responsible for dynamic equilibrium balancing of the earth's wobble and tilt responsible for the seasons and the cycle of life, including the process of human fertilization and gestation. In short the moon-earth-sun relationship is the cause of life on earth as we enjoy it today, including the presence of liquid water over 90% of the earth's surface.

The full moon also mimics the sun, by rising at night, and by chasing the sun on a monthly basis such that at opposite winter/summer solstices the full moon rises at a degree equidistant to due north of that of the rising sun, and yet the moon orbits the earth and the earth, the sun.

Such things are only significant however, to an earth-based, sentient observer. As you yourself said

Originally posted by ignorant_ape

eclipses just happen - they serve no actual emperical benefit to any terestrial organism

The only counter argument is fluke/coincidence, and yet any investigative study will show that the earth-moon-sun relationship is perfectly configured in favor of life.

There's a lot more data than this too some of which reveals that something very unusual took place during the formation of the earth whereby presently held theories of moon formation must be discarded ie: the double-whack theory by unknown rogue planetoid for example.

The main point of this little thesis, aside from the Jesus bit with his use of a lunar eclipse as some sort of spiritual-cosmic theodolite (lens), resides in our ability to look at effects from first causes and recognize intelligent design.

You can argue coincidence or random happenstance if you like, but it's a rather poor argument in the face of all the evidence and data to the contrary which points to a comic evolutionary process intentionally directed towards life, including life as we know it, and even human life. And if by design then it was by anticipation from the very beginning of time and space with the present outcome and effect enfolded in the originating cause, and that's not only intelligent, but what I call super-intelligent or infinitely intelligent.


But wait there's more..

In the diagram above, the big triangle is the same proportion and angle of the Great Pyramid, with its base angles at 51 degrees 51 minutes. If you bisect this triangle and assign a value of 1 to each base, then the hypotenuse (the side opposite the right angle) equals phi (1.618..) and the perpendicular side equals the square root of phi. And that’s not all. A circle is drawn with it’s centre and diameter the same as the base of the large triangle. This represents the circumference of the earth. A square is then drawn to touch the outside of the earth circle. A second circle is then drawn around the first one, with its circumference equal to the perimeter of the square. (The squaring of the circle.)

This new circle will actually pass exactly through the apex of the pyramid. And now the “wow”: A circle drawn with its centre at the apex of the pyramid and its radius just long enough to touch the earth circle, will have the circumference of the moon! Neat, huh! And the small triangle formed by the moon and the earth square will be a perfect 345 triangle

Ref: geometry.wholesomebalance.com...
Ref 2: nexusilluminati.blogspot.ca...
Ref 3: Strange Moon Facts

reply to post by NewAgeMan

Yes, very interesting. Now that you have given us even more enlightenment on the geometry and math of the pyramids would you venture an opinion on its meaning? Or, could you relate to my original hypothesis that the pyramids indicate 'alien' contact; Or is the mathematical paradigm reflective of ancient Egypt? - And if not what is your opinion as to why its [the pyramids] construction? Why produce a geometrical/mathematical/cosmological structure of such a size? Just an exercise in architectural construction - a very expensive tomb for the Pharaohs?

You are not seriously suggesting guys that the pyramids of Gyza were build by people that only had ropes; pulleys, ramps, and possibly slid logs underneath slabs of stone etc... . If you have ever seen the Pyramids of Gyza close up you may think again. From the outside yes it looks somewhat like rubble but from the inside the precision is remarkable.

reply to post by peashooter

So all of you are telling me that 40 000 people (very low estimate) used advanced tools to build pyramids and all those tools disappeared? Not one was buried somewhere in the sand? No one has yet to explain any theory on how the extraordinary properties are constructed, all theories involving "humans built it" ends with "unlikely, no scientific proof" In other words, we don't know how we built it. Simple as that.

Let me quote you again

did you even do research?

Do people need to be spoon fed the links to the research for them to find the facts themselves?

Did you even read that same paragraph where I listed all the facts about the pyramid?

Yes, I saw a video and your ability to soak up whats on screen.

Regarding the post about ancients assisting in construction, I think that is more likely than simply humans sitting around and figuring out properties of Earth and putting it on a Pyramid with electrical signals.

Why cant Humans be ancient? If the Ancients arent human what are they?

Seriously, stop arguing with me with links that contradict your point.

I ask for a bit of clarification on your part, after viewing your YouTube link.

I am seriously not arguing or have I posted any links, I am asking question based on what you post, you call them facts.

This is why I ask to back up your facts or at least show us how you concluded to such by sharing your research you ask others if they have done after giving their opinions.

Originally posted by Turkenstein

Originally posted by IMSAM
The pyramids were made by humans,yep human hands

Unless you want us to believe that visitors from outer space came in their mighty machines here and all they managed to do was the pyramids.

I would have used marble,or diamond

Then you would not have the electrical properties that the pyramid does now.

Okay, I'll bite.

Please explain, in detail, these "electrical properties".

reply to post by draknoir2


draknoir2: While I don't know about what he is talking about, again Carl Munck explains:



I wish someone would actually just watch instead of challenging everything before they even see or know about something.

reply to post by brocket99


Yeah, that's some dated pseudoscience right there.

en.wikipedia.org...

I remember it was all the rage in the 70's.

reply to post by draknoir2


draknoir: I'm not sure why you ask questions when you already have all the answers. You replied in less time then it would have taken to watch the video, and while I know pyramid power was a fad in the 70's, Munck speaks to what you asked about in the previous post.

His ideas and concepts of geo-mathematics bring possibilities to how the Egyptian Pyramids could have been easily made, as well as the many OTHER pyramids of grand scale around the globe.

At least those possibilities make more sense then primitive tools and slave labor over 10-80 years.

We evolved from apes and developed into mathematical, astronomical, geophysical and spiritual geniuses, capable of building monuments and structures visible from space, only to become stone throwing barbarians again. Yeah right

So what happened in between? Where did the people and the knowledge they held, go? The history we're told and supposed to accept, is so convoluted, it's sad. Someone knows the truth, and withholding it is a crime that has no punishment sever enough to do it justice.

reply to post by AlienView


I think the pyramid was constructed as a reflection of the architectural design (by God) of the earth-moon-sun system, and as an instrument of initiation into the ancient mysteries of which the high priests and king (pharaoh) formed the inner circle of the highest adepts. Plato was instructed by the high priests of Egypt, as was Pythagoras, so in many ways Western Civilization emanates from the pyramids. It's a symbol of God's handiwork in the creation of the earth, and man, but it also gave them something to DO, something to labor over, not slave labor, but as a labor of love, and recent archaeological evidence shows that the workers were well cared for and formed a vast and vibrant community.

The ancients appear to have received instruction from a highly advanced being, but it's entirely possible that the knowledge and understanding came about through the application of advanced ancient sciences, including astronomy and engineering, math, trigonometry etc. We must remember that they had all the time in the world to observe the phenomenal world, from which certain conclusions were drawn and ancient knowledge, formed.

The pyramid is the measure of the world, and for their civilization and scientific understanding it was built as a center of the world with the Nile river an earthly reflection of the Milky Way.

As above, so below.

It was their way of building heaven on earth and employing the knowledge as the capstone of a stable and unified society and civilization which lasted many 1000's of years.

There are structures inside the pyramids which reveals rites of passage and initiation.

IMHO, it's an awesome feat of ancient science and technology, nothing more. Those stones were either moved using science and engineering (leverage) or they were poured in place, but I don't think UFO's floated them into place, no.

Regards,

NAM

Edit to add: I think the Great Pyramid is best thought of as a great ancient theodolite or lens who's purpose was to magnify a cosmological principal of design and construction for the purpose of encoding knowledge and then realizing spiritual growth and progress from generation to generation, so as to form the basis and foundation of the process of civilization. So it was a tool of initiation into the ancient mysteries, and it may even have contained embedded within itself certain resonant properties like the funneling of cosmic rays or something like that so that the initiation rites performed in it's inner chambers might also harness an evolutionary principal with the aim being to turn men into Godmen or divine beings.

reply to post by IMSAM


You are forgetting the acoustic resonating properties of granite, aren't you?

Originally posted by brocket99
reply to post by draknoir2

 

draknoir: I'm not sure why you ask questions when you already have all the answers. You replied in less time then it would have taken to watch the video, and while I know pyramid power was a fad in the 70's, Munck speaks to what you asked about in the previous post.

His ideas and concepts of geo-mathematics bring possibilities to how the Egyptian Pyramids could have been easily made, as well as the many OTHER pyramids of grand scale around the globe.

At least those possibilities make more sense then primitive tools and slave labor over 10-80 years.

The question I asked Turkenstein remains unanswered by Turkenstein, and since, as you previously stated, you do not know what he was talking about, I can't really consider your youtube video post the answer. Nevertheless I watched enough of it to know how old it was and what it was about. Brought back grade school memories of trying to preserve a piece of fruit under a pyramid dome.


Also, and Harte may correct me if I'm wrong, I believe the work was done not by slave labor, but rather skilled tradesmen using the appropriate tools for the job over a reasonable period of time.

reply to post by draknoir2

Brought back grade school memories of trying to preserve a piece of fruit under a pyramid dome.

Heh. I remember doing that and how disappointed I got when it didn't work.

For the fellow who asked about the math and the face on Mars etc. He speaks to it in a Q and A on his site. Here it is:

From: Mark
To: [email protected]
Subject: Seconds of Arc


Reading your page with great interest I wonder how or where you are getting these very precise coordinates from. The example regarding Stonehenge is fascinating but you use tiny fractions of an arc second in your GPV calculations. Where do these numbers originate?

When talking about 0.3529411 of an arc second you are defining a point which I suspect is smaller than a pea and it is not possible to achieve this accuracy with GPS or Ordnance Survey Maps, navigation charts, etc. Do these numbers after the decimal point have to be created by you in order to reach a total ( in this case 21,600) or have I missed something? This is not a cynical enquiry, I am trying to understand your system more fully.

Thanks,

Mark



Mark:

I think you have it all backwards. True enough, we cannot calculate GPS positions out to 7 or 8 decimal positions in terms of seconds of arc (unless we get into micrometers - which too few know how to use anymore).

Your concern is with Stonehenge's 21,600 - which it SHOWS.

Its 360-degree plan represents the earth sphere and the 60 perimeter stones convey the language (60 seconds = 60 minutes = 60 degrees) of latitude/longitude.

Somewhere in the Matrix is a site which must explain it.

Purge the ancient for a monument showing both the numbers 60 and 360.

Up pops Stonehenge at 51° 10' = 42.35" of latitude which CAN be verified on a large scale government topographical map.

The grid number shown by the site (21, 600) divides down through the 51 degrees and 10 minutes to 42.35294117 seconds, hence the map finds the site - dead on.

All those extra decimal places serve only to true up the site's position on the MATH side of the search which is, in fact, where Stonehenge centers itself. If all these decimal places serve to irritate, drop all but the first two. The message will get through anyway. The artifact at 21,600 has been found.

It's the same with the Mars Face. A circular ground plan (360°) with FOUR features (2 eyes, a nose and a mouth). 360 x 4 = 1440. But that's not where it is. Then too, the Great Pyramid. Four 90° corners and 4 sides...

4 x 90 = (360) x 4 = 1440.

Now we know that the Great Pyramid models the pi ratio (see page 21 of my Whispers From Time-I). Big puzzle...

Until we go inside the pyramid where we find that its passageways up and down are at an angle of 26° 18' 09.66", hence:

26° x 18' x 09.66" = 4520.88 - which is just a whisker away from the combination of 1440 (Great Pyramid's basic form) and PI which it models in 3-D...

1440 x PI = 4523.89342115

This allows us to true up inclines within the pyramid proper:

4523.89342115 : 26° : 18' = 09.66643893405"

in order to achieve the 1440-pi MODELED by the pyramid.

What's so important about this particular quantity? Good food for mathematicians to ponder perhaps, but it can likewise do this...

4523.89342115 : 41° : 11' = 10.0308058l" North

Again, drop the extra numbers if you like, but the message got through anyway because this is where someone left us that Face over on Mars - at 1440-pi, hence its l440 TIMES pi - and the parallel crosses right over its NOSE.

My next Newsletter (#72) will take a closer look at the meaning. Thanks.

C.P.M.

Originally posted by Harte

Originally posted by peashooter
reply to post by bottleslingguy

 

This was my point, every single block has to be precise like lego pieces, just this fact blew my mind away. If a couple blocks were a couple centimeters off, it will throw off the accuracy of the entire structure.

So this is the basis of your erroneous belief, then.

Sorry, but not a single block is precisely fitted. 99% of the Great Pyramid is slapped together without regard for fit.

The AE's didn't even bother to level the courses of stone, correcting their level every tenth or fifteenth course.

Huge voids exist behind the stone, in which we can see dumped gtobs of mortar, sand and rock debris.

You really ought to learn a little about the structure before pronouncing it perfect.

Harte

Here David Childress proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the blocks are not perfectly square while at the same time exclaiming that they are square. It's some koind of ancient alien mind game.

Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
Here David Childress proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the blocks are not perfectly square while at the same time exclaiming that they are square. It's some koind of ancient alien mind game.

Logical trickery!!!

reply to post by NewAgeMan

The Great pyramid of Cheops by both encoding the unique earth-moon-sun cosmological configuration and then orienting it in such a way that it becomes a calendar at all levels including the rising sun through the precession of the equinox, and what you have is a massive pyramid (with it's own center of gravity), not just at the center of the earth, but the surrounding cosmos the whole of which was made by design in order so that experience might be possible, with mankind joining the circle, so quite literally, within the shafts and chambers of the pyramid resides the center of the universe, and it's from that point in the midst of it all that the instruction was given for initiation rites and ceremonies. So the pyramid's a tool of alchemy, at a variety of levels, with infinite mirroring self referential geometrical relationships perfectly framed by the cosmos as a whole.

It would not surprise me in the least therefore, to get the appropriate "vibe" and evolutionary energy flowing, if the pyramid wasn't also a torsion chamber designed to harness and redirect cosmic rays according to what is now known as the Cygnus [X-3] Mystery. So while they mirror Orion's belt, that's just a reference to their own orientation to the Nile River/Milky Way. That they point, cosmologically, to Cygnus X3 is the key to understanding their function as an evolutionary tool of cosmic alchemy.


Solving the Mysteries of Enigmatic Binary Star System Cygnus X-3, Science News

So basically they liked to get high in there, and emerge as transformed human beings in the process of some sort of evolutionary transumation based and founded on the things they learned and experienced during the initiation rites and ceremonies, some of which were harrowing, requiring them to swim to their apparent death under a wall, only to emerge just in time in a cavity with air - stuff like that, baptism, death and resurrection rituals all designed with a spiritual aim in mind, and a greater realization to be had unto ...epiphany.

That's what they were for. I am convinced of it.

A paradigm shifting, multidimensional, cosmological initiation chamber of encoded knowledge and understanding both of the cosmos and man's place in it as the evolutionary form and mirror image reflection of none other than God the first father and designer who made it all.

But somewhere along the line they lost their way, and I guess that's when God decided to switch sides and perform his own great work relative to their folly and arrogance..

So contrary to popular belief, that the pyramid was a tomb, I think that as soon as one of their Pharaohs went and buried himself in there in a quest for eternal life, that the allegory was ruined as an inter-generational phenomenon, so he committed the cardinal sin by failing to recognize the meaning and significance of the allegory, and literalizing it in the name of a superstition, because once you have a body in the King's chamber, then it's um... stuffed.

That was a big mistake I think, when it was turned into a tomb, which suggests perhaps that their own appropriation of it's true meaning and significance and purpose at some point got squed and bent out of shape once ancient science took on too heavy of a religious overtone which only shows that some things never change, and that people are fickle and even, and even and especially Kings themselves, prone to folly, ignorance and superstitious nonsense.

Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
Here David Childress proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the blocks are not perfectly square while at the same time exclaiming that they are square. It's some koind of ancient alien mind game.

Is that from the pyramids? It looks more like the stones in Puma Punku.