E.S.P. is Real!Stop claiming it is not!

Originally posted by Darkblade71
I know some people are going to say I am self promoting...whatever.

I knew you'd say that.

Seriously though, good luck with the readings, don't E.S.P. me or I'll have to E.S.P. you. And don't write a book about it or you will be scrutinised and ridiculed to bits....save it for those close to you who can appreciate the insights you can offer. Don't want you to be the first ATS member burned at the stake either.

I often believe that some people are like books. Once you start reading, you kinda know what comes next and things get predictable. Human nature can follow such a narrow path at times.

reply to post by nerbot




They would burn me

I hear ya, it is for those close to me,
but at the same time, it is something I can share.
Just my own little chunk of knowledge added to the world.

I am not going to E.S.P nobody on this thread.
Tis not the point
We all become predictable after a while, that is human nature, to follow patterns. That is also part of a psychic, to be able to pick out those patterns




Good point.

Originally posted by ballymoney50
reply to post by Darkblade71

 

I believe in ESP big time as loads of unexplained things have happened to me, my kids think its brill and my friends are frightened of me in case i hex them lol if someone does something nasty to me they get paid back in someway so i try not to get to angry if they do upset me, karma i suppose

Life is just a big bundle of fun.

Funny thing is I believe in ESP too.

I just don't believe the OP can do anything. He said he'd prove it, then reneged. His proof is for us to read other threads. That's not proof of anything at all.

And if he's not going to bother backing up his claims, then I'm not going to read other threads to accept his claims.

"Look at me everyone I have ESP!"
"Prove it."
"No, that's boring and stupid and you should just accept it!"

reply to post by winofiend


So be it winofiend.

*shrug*

Again, you are proving what I said in my original post.

If you can't even check what I have supplied already,
then there is no point as far as I am concerned.

It is a waste of my time and yours.

As a side note, I think you misunderstand the rant. But, that's ok. I'll just keep being me, and you can keep being you, and that's about all it is going to be. I might be willing to play a little. I did express that you misunderstood, but hey, everyone wants it for themselves.
Can't seem to look at evidence presented?

Why does it have to be for you personally?

I get that a lot, if I did that for everyone, I would never have any time to enjoy myself or the site. Been there, done that, not gonna go there with someone who right away titles me as a fake.

I could go on and on about this one.

In fact I think I will.

This rant is to show that it is already documented. No where did I say I would give people readings or personal information. I said I would supply proof and continue to do so. I do it in my way, and if that is not good enough for you, then that's your problem, not mine.

Peace.

I too have proof, at least enough to satisfy myself. I had a dream, and in this dream I spoke with someone, I am cleaning this up for privacy reasons, in case they are on ATS. I gave that person, specific instructions. They followed them in real life, to the letter. We were not in the same time zones and did not know each other, still don't actually, and on faith, they did exactly as I asked.

I would like to say I knew what I was doing. At the time, I did not. That this happened, freaked me out. I could not handle it. I rejected the whole experience. Something I am ashamed of today. When push came to shove, I was a coward. There is no excuse.

I believe you Darkblade. Telepathy is real. I am a much better sender than I am receiver. If the sender is powerful enough they can cut through the constant chatter I keep up in my head, I have received a few times. I think I block to protect myself. To be honest I don't know much about these abilities, except I believe we all have them.

It sounds insane to talk about it. Since you had the courage, I could not let you stand alone. My regards to Roses

reply to post by Iamschist


Thanks for that


Roses says "Heeeey!"



She loves your avatar. Speaking of Roses,
I gotta get off of here so she can get on

I bet she will pop in this thread as well

reply to post by winofiend


I have lived with this man since 2007 and have seen with my own eyes the talents he has.

The fact that he won't play your game does NOT mean he is a fraud it just means you are too lazy to even look at the links he has provided as "proof" says a whole lot more about you than him.

So you believe what you want and have a nice day.

reply to post by RosesAreRed


Thanks baby, I do appreciate the support!
and I think that was well put.


If people can't even bother with what I ask in my rant thread, then I can't bother with them in it either.
It would be different if it was a difference of opinion, but what was presented was disregarded altogether before even being looked at.

Which is kind of funny.


*shrug*

Some things cannot be faked, and they cannot be denied either. I offered two pieces of proof that ESP is real.
And called a fake and a fraud for it, before anyone bothered to look.


Deny ignorance.

s&f indeed!

It's funny how so many people yell for "proof or it didn't happen"... what about all the things in life that we cant measure with logic like love and hate, or sadness and happiness, fear or peace... These are all things only measurable by the person involved in the experience.

OP, great thread! Anyone asking for proof is obviously to narrow minded in realms of this nature to handle the truth. You only need to justify it to yourself and nobody else. Pass knowledge to those who are curious and hope the rest strive for something greater in life.

Science is fantastic for only those things that are measurable and very limiting for everything else.

I like your thread. ESP is a thing for real. You might get a negative response from some people because sometimes you make it seem like you are "more special" than other humans. We can all tune into the great wisdom, but some people choose to tune into the television/ipod/newspaper instead. Some proof would be wild animals running away before a tsunami hits.

Screaming elephants? news.nationalgeographic.com...

If you are trying to prove something to somebody else, maybe you are the one who really needs the convincing.

I believe in ESP - or whatever you want to call it 100% too, and I'm sick and tired off all the cynics / trolls on the boards as well. The forums are so flooded with them anymore I barely bother to post at all half the time.

I have had very strange things happen to me throughout my entire life, starting off with very vivid dreams that ended up becoming reality - premonitions / deja vu, I experienced "ghosts" or other strange entities - no clue what they really were in the house I grew up in. As strange and off the wall as it sounds, it could have even had something to do with time travel; simply because it would actually explain a lot of the weird things that were going on at the time.

My parents told me I had an imaginary friend as a kid that I cannot remember at all now that I'm older..

Once I got to be around 10 years old, and started reading books on subjects in the paranormal, I actually started making my own tape recordings in my bedroom where I would sometimes pick up some pretty strange EVP's (wish I could find them)

Up to this very day - I'm now 32 years old - I'm being treated for epilepsy when in my entire life I've luckily only suffered 3 or 4 grand mal seizures, at all very random times while being completely exhausted and on TONS of caffeine, but I still have the occasional small focal seizure - which I blame on the prescriptions the doctors put me on - but there's not really a whole lot I can do about that...

I've also done a good deal of research over the years, mainly due to the fact of all the cynics out there that refuse to listen to anything people like me or you have to say, and have discovered that over the years there have been several educational institutions set up specifically for studying the paranormal - one of which still exists today, as a branch of Princeton University - known as PEAR.

Keep laughing at us.

reply to post by Darkblade71


I know the "stuff" you're typing about, e.s.p., happens. I've seen your threads/posts for awhile and find them interesting and truthful. I think you are one of those that have "it" more strongly than most.

People usually have problems with the folks who make their living "doing" it. They kinda have to stretch the truth a little, sometimes, to make something that is hard to pin down seem like a reliable, marketable commodity. Or, in other words, they put on a show.

They are the folks who muddy the waters and give the cynics fodder.

Whatever one calls "it," it happens to everyone, just some way more than others, for whatever reasons... but I have my theories.

And as a side note, I don't blame you not wanting to "view" some of us at our keyboards... there's only so much underwear and snack-foods one can stand.

reply to post by Darkblade71


i had a neighbor hes past away now but he use to give me an accurate measure for the snowfall before the winter even started... hed have a dream and in it would be water, different things meant different results, but hed get within an inch or two for total accumulation hit the number of "storms" on the head. when ever he had a dream hed tell me that hed have the weather predictoins a month ahead, within a week of the dream date there would be a natural disaster somewhere in the world, and he always seemed to guess it. he had a dream about women and children playing in water just wading to there ankles and told me he saw a sea gull flying over head, the women and children being young and women the "givers of life" meant it wouldnt result in major injury or death. a week later that plane crashed in that river in ny.. pretty freaky but facinating none the less. he also said he communicated with aliens in his dream, sounds out there but when youve known a guy who could forwarn you of storms and blizzards weeks in advance with accuracy.. not sure if their is a way to im or email on here but if there is i can give you more info if youd like to learn a bit. sounds crazy but he has been interviewed by local news and others for his predictions.

The entire OP was just a rant saying that you are and that you have proof. You don't like being called a medium, because you're just as clueless as the rest of us... where is the evidence? All you did was spoke in circles, and posted two links about nothing.

ESP is documented, as in "Extra Sensory Perception". What you're claiming is that ESP is real, and that ghosts/spirits/telepathy/everything is real. Aside from the fact that your claim is too broad, you failed the first part of a valid hypothesis.

You must not say "i've seen it and it's documented, therefore it is true". The reason being that, until you can provide solid, quantifiable evidence (not "proof"), the claim can not be proven valid to an external party.
You also must never say "I have proof, go see for yourself". We are the ones questioning you, we don't have to prove anything. You must demonstrate to us in such a way that we come to agree with you.

It's kindergarten science. Nothing is true until proven, and the person making a claim must prove their claim. "Proof" is not evidence. It is not fact.

Example: A few years ago, a friend and I had dinner together. We left the restaurant, and have no recollection of the next half hour. In that time, I ended up 10km away from where we were, and she ended up 10km away in the opposite direction. We weren't drunk, and neither of us spent any money, so therefore, we did not catch a taxi. The only logical explanation is that something supernatural happened. Personally, I have no idea what happened, we joke about it being aliens, but, in reality, I have no evidence to back up any such claim. I could however, claim that the event was definitely proof of some higher power messing with us humans, based on my experience.

The point being: You should re-read your original post. Approach it as though you are a skeptic, and then, with any luck, you will notice that at no point do you allude to evidence, or to any examples. Posting a link isn't anything, the link was an afterthought in an edit, you were unable to cite a single occurrance when you posted your original piece.

If you can offer me evidence, I'm willing to believe. But evidence would require evidence of ESP, then of ghosts, then of spirits, then of the afterlife/netherworld being able to link to this world, and so forth.

Originally posted by TommyG
s&f indeed!

It's funny how so many people yell for "proof or it didn't happen"... what about all the things in life that we cant measure with logic like love and hate, or sadness and happiness, fear or peace... These are all things only measurable by the person involved in the experience.

OP, great thread! Anyone asking for proof is obviously to narrow minded in realms of this nature to handle the truth. You only need to justify it to yourself and nobody else. Pass knowledge to those who are curious and hope the rest strive for something greater in life.

Science is fantastic for only those things that are measurable and very limiting for everything else.

The reason we ask for proof is not because we are narrow-minded. The reason we ask is because the title makes an outrageous claim, and refuses challenge.
Were I to say "The sun is in the sky, Stop claiming it is not!", then people would be free to challenge me, and I could demonstrate with a degree of certainty that the sun IS in the sky. Saying that ESP is real and that we may not challenge this claim, is pretty much asking for naysayers. Asking for proof is our way of understanding things. When we seek evidence of something, it is so that we may better understand it, and so that we may potentially adopt that train of thought. Otherwise, if asking for proof is narrow-minded.... I guess everything is true. All of it. Any time a person utters a word, or conjures a thought, regardless of what is real, it must be true.

Or perhaps you hadn't thought beyond jumping up and down in defence of nothing in particular, just to troll the trolls.

reply to post by Darkblade71


ESP is real I agree and have personally had some terrifying paranormal experiences but there are those that either have never experienced or else are in denial either through fear of the unknown or dread or even guilt whom will go to there grave denying these fact's and living in only the 3 dimensions they can quantify, hell maybe for some that is all that there is for them but not for all or even most.

We only know that there may be other dimensions and there may also be entire other universes as well as other layers of reality that make us look like fixed two dimensional dots on a flat surface but the search for empirical evidence will always thwart them as they seek what can not exist within there fixed dimensional boundaries and as watching a photon changes it's state from wave to particle so does watching for spiritual proof and they may very well have adopted not a none believing but anti spiritual mind set with the quantum effect that it entails.

I remember a comedy séance scene though were the crowd around the table being led by an old lady and she say's "Is there anybody there, if you are knock on the table twice but if not knock once".

reply to post by windslayer


HI, this was a frustration rant. The proof is in the links at the beginning of the thread.The point was to vent a little and share what I have added to ATS so far. If people do not read the links provided, the they won't see the proof. I guess that is kind of my point. I supplied 2 things that I myself have done. One link was to earthquake predictions, which is something I never do, however, in that instance I did, because I knew something was going to happen, as it effects my home town and the other link was to a medium reading I did on ATS, and if they continue that other link, at the end, is verification on canvas. You cannot fake that.

I have not seen one person comment on those links, only on my rant.
That is fine, but it kind of shows that a lot of people don't seem to pay attention.
They just "troll".

I guess that is something I suspected, and am seeing happen. They can't get past the rant.
I did edit those links in to show what I was going to show. I realized I forgot after a few comments. My brain just spilled the rant, as that is what a rant is. To avoid people having to find links in comments, I figured I better put it in the main rant. This is not school, so things are not perfect. I am not being graded on it.


People talk, but they often times don't look.
If people really wanted to know, they would look you would think.
I have a very serious interest in the whole esp experience, because for years I tried to figure it out, because it happens to me a lot. I'm starting to figure some of it out, I don't have all the answers, most answers are just for myself, but I get frustrated when I hesitate to post something because of trolls. This thread is to voice that frustration,show it does happen, and that's really about it.

reply to post by Time2Think


Thank you for your input!

Your experiences with it sound a lot like mine, it started very young, with dreams, small premonitions, things that caused me to research and look deeper into it. I like to call them psychic brain farts sometimes. Because that's all they are. At least some of them, until we get older and look into how these things can maybe be used. Yo gotta keep the humor with it though, or at least I do, because if things get to serious, it stops working, unless I am in danger.

Sounds to me like you know what I am talking about.

reply to post by LABTECH767


I feel for those who have never experienced it. It is a hard thing to accept if you don't get it for yourself. I always wondered why it doesn't happen to everyone. I believe personally that everyone could do it, if they really wanted to.
But some never get the experience.