I know the alien agenda and why they wont land.

Ive seen two beings, each of opposite polarity, and each, if more than a hallucination, are entitled to be called "gods". I use the term, "alien" to.describe them for.three reasons. One, is they are alien to what we are familiar with as possible. Two, the negative entity that I encountered looked exactly like what you hear aliens looking like. Three, I just believe they have the ability to travel anywhere they would like.

Kenneth arnold, the first person in modern history to report a u.f.o., describe the ufo as "moving like rocks skipping on water." The negative entity that I encountered itself moved like rocks skipping on water. Rather than walking from point a to b to c, it seemed to fade out of.existence at point a, and reappear at point c. Observing this made me consider that aliens and what has been called by religious institutions, "demons", and "angels", are the same thing. it also led me to.the belief that if a corporeal.existence can lead.to a god like state, then this is my destiny.

The positively polarized otherworldly being that I call both "alien" and "angel" was a sight to behold. During this encounter, I knew she was beyond this universe simply due to the fact that her beauty and spiritual emanation was.overbearing. She emanated life itself.in a pure form. Ever heard the verse in the bible, "No man could ever see my face and live"? That verse held.true for.this being. Just the sight of her was so overwhelmingly beautiful, the thought occurred to me, "if I look at her any longer, im going to die." My body was simply not designed to be able to withstand the intensity of that kind of presence.

After my encounters, I.was left with questions. Neither being spoke, but just witnessing such otherworldliness was enough to open my mind to new possibilities of a spiritual existence. So I began a search for answers with my onlyreference being those.beings, and the implications of what I saw and how that could possibly relate to my life.

The one I feel like I learned from the most was the positive being. I envied her ability to shine life and light through her eyes and make the glory of her presence be felt. So in that envy, I sought a method. What Ive learned up to this point (still learning) is the way you choose.to see the world determines who you are because all are connected by life which is the root of your life, which is consciousness. Everything I see is seen how only I can see it. My reality is mine only because no one else sees what I see. So if I am to be glorious to behold as.she was, then I need to learn how.to see.the glory in others.

That.was the basic lesson, although there are some.subtle complexities within this idea, but this idea of "my truth is what I see" led me to see how everyone I see is me, because everyone is seen by me according to how only I can see them. And thats where the harmony part comes in that I mentioned in the op. I see that all are one. I see that all is me. I couple that with the activities of the world to go further on to see that I am doing everything that is being done. As an individual, I have full control over my body and can do whatever im made to want. So I allow that right to all that is me, so im free. Everything I see has been made for me to see. The universe presents itself to me, for me, and I see something I can only describe as harmony. Its something beyond conventional human experience that until you have found a way to see it for yourself, you wont understand.

But nevertheless, as a human, I am investigating the extent of consciousness enhancement and am making progress to an end I can accurately predict. Considering that there could be a race of beings that have been around long enough to master space travel, it is reasonable to assume that they followed a similar path and have made much more existential progress and even went beyond the end that I can predict. If so, then my op stands as one of the most accurate interpretations of e.t. /earth affairs that you have ever read. If I am as accurate as I believe I am, rather than attacking this thread and seeking out reasons it could be useless, maybe it would serve you more to consider how.it can be useful. Ive experienced what ive experienced and have drawn healthy conclusions from the interrelationships of my experiences.

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No offence taken, at all.

I greatly respect the rights of individuals to their own takes and opinions on these matters, and couldn't agree more with your sentiment that people should look at the history of the phenomena, research our own technological discoveries over the last few decades..nanotech, Quantum sciences and so on, and then make their own minds up about how they view the subject.

Good on you for doing that.

Originally posted by xpoq47
I can't find the gumption,
To jump to assumptions,
And claim to know details,
Of things not proved real,
And announce them for public consumption.

Well isn't that a pity? Glad that fear of being wrong and ridicule didn't stop Einstein or Galileo from claiming to know details of things not proved real. The only way anything is learned is by announcing theories to be dissected and proved true, false, or as yet... unknown. The only way new theories are accepted is by smashing old paradigms and replacing them. I don't happen to believe this posters claim or his reasons why ET don't announce themselves. I will defend his right to speak it out, especially on this topic where so little is known as fact. Mulling over ideas, even wrong ideas, has the ability to inspire other peoples thinking in new directions and THEY might arrive at the right answers. You should try trusting your gut instincts, devise a theory and jump to assumptions when faced with a question. One of these days you just might be right.

Originally posted by TheFlash
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Your post is not sensible. It is not possible to know that which is not knowledge and the things you said are not knowledge they are, at best, conjecture, opinion and speculation.

myeah, thank you for your expert analysis myeah.

I think you're pointing in the right direction with this post. There is overwhelming evidence that ET's have had significant presence on this planet in the past, and no reason to think they are not still overseeing our evolution.

David Wilcock has lots to say on this topic, and describes some of the evidence of both benevolent and malevolent agenda's. At the following link, he explores some of the archaeological evidence of ET's throughout history and shows some of the influence they've wielded.

Check it out: www.gaiamtv.com...

Originally posted by Zotor

1,000 years ago these very same demons appeared as angels of light, with the purpose of deception

So what exactly is the deception? And why are they waiting for a thousand years?

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I agree.
They have'nt"landed yet",for one reason.They have'nt seen fit to do so yet.And they would'nt seriously tell anyone their timetable.

Maybe they've always been here.
Maybe we are the aliens.
We are living in interesting timesThat's all we Really know.

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I have been seeng a lot of "abductees" on TV and many being female claim after memory recall/hypnosis say their eggs are taken for hybrid because aliens can't live in this atmosphere.

However if it was true I would seriously have a problem with this because its a form of rape and kidnaping. I don't care if they are high tech super elite aliens theyre still raping and kidnapping.
And since their puny bodies can't handle the atmosphere they want to use and abuse and steal your sisters, mothers,daughters,wives,cousins embryos ! Then we become obsolete.

Maybe each step of evolution is aliens coming and sexing up our women and introducing hybrids?

We could never win a fight fighting them with technology but if what they lack is how we'd win a fight. Muscle, Braun and mechinal weapons. They obviously expose their biggest weakness by STEALING eggs and sperm from humans. It's not kosher. Reminds me of nephilim.

But can you blame the hybrid children if they start appearing?

Originally posted by the owlbear
Mmmm...I politely disagree.
I believe the song "Stuart" by the Dead Milkmen off of their album Beezebubba sums it up for me and the Alien agenda. But we all should respect each other's opinions. My girlfriend just learned the "Ancient Aliens" drinking game about two hours ago...you might know it. Anytime the narrator says "As some ancient astronaut theorists suggest"...you drink. She quit after about fifteen minutes so she wouldnt get sick.

So they're building landing strips for gay martians?

Owlbear, you're not like the other people, here, in the trailor park.

There is really no way to know why they don't or havent stopped by and said hi.

What if the alien civilizations have some kind of treaty or pact in place within themselves that prevents aliens from making contact with certain planets/stars/races maybe the ones still growing such as ours. Sort of like a federation that rules or governs them, similarly to how humans have rules in place that prevent animals of a certain age or size from being hunted. What if we are not there yet?

What if the ships and crafts that have been spotted on earth are rogue aliens that have somehow snuck around that rule/law just to take a peek and not disturb anything as they would have grave consequences.

Or what if they are appointed beings that have been allowed to come to earth, sort of like scientists sent on a mission, just to study and nothing more.

Or what if only they are part of the elite few that have enough resources (think money or whatever currency) to afford such an interstellar trip. Sort of like the elite few that have gone to space or will be able to afford trips on the space x ships but at a much higher cost. And what if they do so under the condition as to not disturb anything.

For all we know, we here on earth could be akin to the remote lost tribes of the amazon, nobody wants to disturb them or their culture. What if we are in the same scenario? They simply don't want to disturb us and our culture.

What if they KNOW for a fact that since we are a baby race, by introducing us to their technology, we are not ready for it and end up destroying ourselves. Sort of like giving a gun or explosive device to a monkey and seeing what they do to the other ones.

What if the ones that have come are the friendly/explorer type. Similarly to how backpapers and travelers go around the world exploring, but respecting every culture and race. And what if aside from the friendly explorer type there are aggressive types also that would be hostile if they knew of our existence. And what if those friendly ones do not want us to get introduced to the aggressive ones for fear on our behalf.

Or what if they just simply took a vacation to explore a few planets and earth happens to be one of the main sights to see, or maybe we are off the beaten path but still something worth checking out.

Whatever the case, could we do the same? if we could travel to another planet that had an inferior race, could we be in a position to interfere and help them out with technology? who would we help? different civilizations akin to our different countries, helping one would mean destroying the other perhaps. The only way we could possibly help them is if they were united and with 1 single cause, which we ourselves on earth are not. Too many wars going on on earth and who would they side with if they decided to help? by helping 1 side they would destroy the other, and by doing so they would effectively help destroy the human race.

So many questions and possibilities, the fact remains they are ships that have visited us. I imagine how it would be for them to visit our desolate planet. Then returning to to their huge megapolis flying cities, maybe some return to war torn galaxies where they are constantly at war against other races.

Originally posted by nrd101
I believe in aliens. I've seen them in my dreams ......They are real, not some made up vampire lore

Seeing them in a dream and believing in them, does not make them real, skippy.

I believe in the possibility of life on other planets but, there's no evidence of any alien visitations to earth. Only conjecture, belief, faith, dreams, visions, guesses, unreliable testimony from witnesses who are not credible with contradictions.

Originally posted by WilliamOckham

Originally posted by nrd101
I believe in aliens. I've seen them in my dreams ......They are real, not some made up vampire lore

Seeing them in a dream and believing in them, does not make them real, skippy.

I believe in the possibility of life on other planets but, there's no evidence of any alien visitations to earth. Only conjecture, belief, faith, dreams, visions, guesses, unreliable testimony from witnesses who are not credible with contradictions.

you know there could never be acceptable proof, with all our technology for video and photo, cgi for example, no video or picture can ever be accepted as proof by anyone as it could easily be labeled a fake, there have been people that have gone on camera, respectable people in the militarym scientists, police officers that have dedicated a their lives to building their career and reputation, that have talked about things they have seen and basically put all their lifes work on the line. Those would be the ones that I would believe.

The truth is, unless you see something out of this world, like an alien craft, you will never believe. Until then, keep watching the sky, I wish you would see something extraordinary someday. Its unbelievable.

For those of us that have, it puts things in a whole different perspective. And even then, after you experienced and seen something that you know doesn't belong in this planet, you might still doubt others when they talk about something they saw, because you never know if they are just pulling your string and mocking you because of what you saw. That's just the way it is.

Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
As the saying goes, seek those who are seeking the truth, run from those who claim to have found it. You know nothing.

Well said, and I completely agree.

Originally posted by H34T533K3R
Whatever the case, could we do the same? if we could travel to another planet that had an inferior race, could we be in a position to interfere and help them out with technology? who would we help? different civilizations akin to our different countries, helping one would mean destroying the other perhaps. The only way we could possibly help them is if they were united and with 1 single cause, which we ourselves on earth are not. Too many wars going on on earth and who would they side with if they decided to help? by helping 1 side they would destroy the other, and by doing so they would effectively help destroy the human race.

It would be quite easy I think to inventarize every being on the planet, tag them and relocate so they couldn't hurt eachother. The main problem would be how to subdue every being at the same time without any of them alerting eachother what's happening and murdering commencing? Bombing everything with sleeping gas would not work if they had gasmasks. Shooting tranquilizer darts wouldn't do it as there would be time between machines/ET's landing and the actual moment the darts are shot and people might kill themselves in that short span of time.

Seeing ET in the movies just isn't the same as through dreams or visions. Maybe the shock of ET's might cripple a humans' psyche for life like permanent brain damage because of severe trauma, humanity has considered themselves for centuries to be the only existing life, it's not since several decades the idea has become more accepted. So a lot of minds would need a huge realigning which might take time or people might get mental difficulties.

They might be telepathic and our signals might be incompatible or damaging to either side. So it would make sense to me if they observe first maybe through technology allowing them to send messages like radio waves which some pick up and translate in dreams, then select individuals whom they deem mentally ready for initial contact who would then talk about this with others to prepare their minds. They might send entire instructions this way we don't even have to think about just dream about it which would then execute those instructions and construct a mental phone they could then connect to.

Originally posted by WilliamOckham

Originally posted by nrd101
I believe in aliens. I've seen them in my dreams ......They are real, not some made up vampire lore

Seeing them in a dream and believing in them, does not make them real, skippy.

I believe in the possibility of life on other planets but, there's no evidence of any alien visitations to earth. Only conjecture, belief, faith, dreams, visions, guesses, unreliable testimony from witnesses who are not credible with contradictions.

Denying their existence doesn't make them cease existing also. I do believe it shuts that one door between Earth and outer space and that is why people chose to believe they are the only ones in all of existence. Heh can't say this enough makes me realize the absurdity of it as I grew up with the thought everyone around me considered was true just as the earth revolves around the sun. Some people now want contact and learn more about the surroundings and this creates difficulty for people who believe otherwise to keep their conviction as there is no proof for or against so you have all these willpowers played out against eachother. Also people focusing on other things than the planet tends to put things in perspective and creates all kinds of changes, like people not wanting to come to your party on Earth anymore and when more do this there's not much of a party anymore. Or just imagining ET's perspective or any advanced civilization reveals many things which are wrong about humanities' view of everything and how they think because of their distorted views and truths those who gained because of it insitinctively know it's not good for business. Afterall either time is spend on entertainment on earth where people can make money because of it or outside, not counting the whole UFO franchise.

Not that I am one of those who is certain they have visited Earth, I would guess not. But I don't believe in the possibility, it's part of reality to me. It's insane big out there, we are here so why not life elsewhere, beside humanity believing for centuries they are the only ones and we are all influenced by that.

My best guess is that the aliens see:
The humans have polluted the planet, use fossil fuels, can not get off their own planet due to lack of intelligence and team work. We are violent, selfish, greedy. Most Americans never leave their own state let alone see what the world has going on. There is war and poverty galore out there. It is amazing how different people else where
live and think.
The aliens may not like to be exposed to our pollutants, germs, violence. We just aren't worth the trouble. If I were
them, I would be looking at earth as a zoo experience, like going on safari. Observe and no contact. Although, it sounds like some of them are DNA sampling the plant and animal species here, including the humans. They probably breathe a different air, and can not tolerate the chemicals and germs in our environment. We probably look like trouble and like we are struggling on many levels.

Originally posted by xpoq47
I can't find the gumption,
To jump to assumptions,
And claim to know details,
Of things not proved real,
And announce them for public consumption.

As the unofficial "Gaud" I second that! I better be careful of the VA and government will knock down my door... take my guns .... well if they do that ... I better get a check for life not a padded cell! LMAO

sarcasm/

"won't land"

The problem with that statement is there have been plenty of UFO landing trace cases and witnesses to UFO landings.

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What if there were aliens inhabiting Earth but God banned/destroyed them? God wouldn't allow aliens to mess with his shiz till it's a lock so I imagine he could ban them from our planet or solar system. Right now humanity is in development.

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I believe that there is some sort of battle going on between the forces of good and forces of evil in the further dimensions that we simply cannot percieve...However, I`m not sure that this is the reason why aliens don`t show up, but is good to be open minded about everything, simply because we know very little to nothing about the secret of life and universe.

I can tell that something more is going on that we can see. It`s just a gut feeling telling me that. But on the other hand I can`t prove anything so it`s basically still ground 0=)

Anyone that would ridicule your thread IMHO is a jackass and you shouldn't listen to them, those of no imagination. I say the more I learn, the more I realise that I know nothing. EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE and probable. " That which is not statistically impossible is compulsory" - Enrico Ferme

So bravo to you sir or madame, opine away and those who enjoy thinking outside the box, those who have chosen the red pill salute you! PEACE.