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Was HAARP Used in OK to Bail Out the POTUS?

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posted on May, 21 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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Stop spreading misinformation, i NEVER SAID HAARP CREATED THE TORNADO. It doesn't mean HAARP or scalar technology wasn't used to help save an agenda. Does it?



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
reply to post by captaintyinknots
 


Well, of the number of nonsense threads I have no doubt but I meant is the 2nd one I have personally been active in. And Im glad I made you smile. Keep up hope, there are still sensible people in this world



EDIT:

actually its the third, I forgot about GameKeeper's final demise some months ago.
I just re-looked at my previous reply to you, and I hope it didnt come across the way I think it did. I honestly think you are a prime example of what normal newer members, who have been around, who understand the way this site works, who use logic and reason, and who discuss in a civil manner.

There are other ones (ahem) that jump in with two feet, make no attempt at rationality or civility, and who are always on the attack.

Keep up the good work, for real


You'll see lots of threads get removed, for various reasons. You'll also see a lot of threads like this, that arent removed, but moved to the 'ludicrous online lies" (lol) forum, where they should be.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by WonderBoi
reply to post by captaintyinknots
 

Stop spreading misinformation, i NEVER SAID HAARP CREATED THE TORNADO. It doesn't mean HAARP or scalar technology wasn't used to help save an agenda. Does it?


Now I am the one spreading misinformation? You're reading right out of a playbook, arent you?
1)Deny calls for evidence.
2)Use ad hom
3)Call names
4)Accuse of being brainwashed
5)Accuse of spreading misinformation

And now you are slowly backing away from your claims, now that it has been made quite apparent that you have nothing to back them up.

Can I get a copy of that playbook online? Or is it special issue?



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:05 PM
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Yeah, i guess we can't create any kind of "natural" phenomena. What ever was i thinking. STUPID ME!


Tesla sitting in his Colorado Springs laboratory with his "Magnifying transmitter" generating millions of volts and producing 7-metre (23 ft) long arcs.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:07 PM
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You're leaping all over the place. No one said we cannot recreate natural phenomena. Hell, check this out:



In your mind, does this really act as evidence that HAARP was involved? As I siad before, this is right on par with the people who think that the fact that crisis actors exist is proof that boston and sandy hook were fake. Just ridiculous, baseless, and foolish.


Yikes.....just yikes.


edit on 21-5-2013 by captaintyinknots because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:08 PM
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Don't reveal your tactics. You're beginning to show your true colors. Don't you have something to add to this post, besides your uninformative comments?

Tesla gives the following description concerning the particle gun's operation: [The nozzle would] send concentrated beams of particles through the free air, of such tremendous energy that they will bring down a fleet of 10,000 enemy airplanes at a distance of 200 miles from a defending nation's border and will cause armies to drop dead in their tracksen.wikipedia.org...



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by WonderBoi
reply to post by captaintyinknots
 
Don't reveal your tactics. You're beginning to show your true colors. Don't you have something to add to this post, besides your uninformative comments?

Tesla gives the following description concerning the particle gun's operation: [The nozzle would] send concentrated beams of particles through the free air, of such tremendous energy that they will bring down a fleet of 10,000 enemy airplanes at a distance of 200 miles from a defending nation's border and will cause armies to drop dead in their tracksen.wikipedia.org...


Ok, and with that, we are done. You have proven unwilling to back up any claims, you regurgitate things that do not, in any way, act as evidence, you play games, you deflect, you dance around.

Youve given yourself away.

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posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by siliconpsychosis
reply to post by captaintyinknots
 


Well, of the number of nonsense threads I have no doubt but I meant is the 2nd one I have personally been active in. And Im glad I made you smile. Keep up hope, there are still sensible people in this world



EDIT:

actually its the third, I forgot about GameKeeper's final demise some months ago.
I just re-looked at my previous reply to you, and I hope it didnt come across the way I think it did. I honestly think you are a prime example of what normal newer members, who have been around, who understand the way this site works, who use logic and reason, and who discuss in a civil manner.

There are other ones (ahem) that jump in with two feet, make no attempt at rationality or civility, and who are always on the attack.

Keep up the good work, for real


You'll see lots of threads get removed, for various reasons. You'll also see a lot of threads like this, that arent removed, but moved to the 'ludicrous online lies" (lol) forum, where they should be.



don't worry, I didn't misunderstand you
you seemed really pleased that i'm, well, able to think about things for myself.

Yeah, seen a few threads get moved or removed, most of them started and ended like this one.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:16 PM
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edit on 21-5-2013 by AnonLover because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:17 PM
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At a conspiracy site, Im still unsure why ideas are hated and ridiculed so much or banned or discarded. This isnt FoxNews forums. Just sayin.

Please, to all that lurk at this site beware. Its possible that ATS doesnt represent whom it says it does.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by WonderBoi
reply to post by captaintyinknots
 
Don't reveal your tactics. You're beginning to show your true colors. Don't you have something to add to this post, besides your uninformative comments?

Tesla gives the following description concerning the particle gun's operation: [The nozzle would] send concentrated beams of particles through the free air, of such tremendous energy that they will bring down a fleet of 10,000 enemy airplanes at a distance of 200 miles from a defending nation's border and will cause armies to drop dead in their tracksen.wikipedia.org...




You carry on believing what you want to believe. You will find that almost everyone will continue to ask you for your evidence (and actual evidence, not Wiki quotes) regardless of the content of your threads if you continue to post in the manner you currently are.

You started off by asking a question about potential HAARP involvement with the tornado. As soon as the majority of replies were going against your thinking, you switched to attack mode and continually moved the goalposts. This does not a discussion make.

Bringing tesla into the equation was a silly thing to do, especially under your guise of "proof". Tesla's work is proof of tesla's work alone and unless you can provide documented examples of how his technology has been integrated into HAARP its is not valid to this discussion. His work was revolutionary at the time, but has largely been surpassed and is of no real relevance now.

He did not invent the modern world - AT&T and Bell Labs could be attributed with that since the invention of the first practical solid state transistor.

Give up with the tesla nonsense, and start replying to people with respect and thoughtful discussion and you might get somewhere.

Continue to attack, ignore and move the goal posts and you will end up getting labelled and ridiculed



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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For your entertainment purposes.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:24 PM
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Well I must say this is very interesting. Is the possibility their that haarp has this kind of technology but isn't telling us? Very possible now as for understanding haarp and what it is all about im sorry I don't really know that much about the subject. Now what I do know is that anything is possible in this world. As for the whole lets create a tornado to use as a type of smoke screen doesn't really make all the sense to me. Now just because I don't see this precise occurrence as a conspiracy does not mean I don't think that their is technology that can manipulate weather. Mother nature has and will continue to do her thing. Wether it be hurricanes tornadoes earthquakes what ever they might be. Now could it very possibly be connected to some group that has its hands in technology were the general populous has no idea is real? Seeing isn't always believing as im sure a good amount of you believe in aliens but probably never witnessed a alien in person.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:27 PM
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Sometimes I wish I could just reach into the computer screen and shake someone. In the midst of tragedy that some uncaring fool can make a suggestion that we brought this upon ourselves. Shame on you and every one of the members here who flagged this thread.
Children once again have been killed and your cold cold heart wants to make light of it?
Any mature thinking person knows that HAARP is not a weapon and cannot be used in the way that you seem to think but I dont count you amongst the mature thinking people anyway.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by WonderBoi
 


Sometimes I wish I could just reach into the computer screen and shake someone. In the midst of tragedy that some uncaring fool can make a suggestion that we brought this upon ourselves. Shame on you and every one of the members here who flagged this thread.
Children once again have been killed and your cold cold heart wants to make light of it?
Any mature thinking person knows that HAARP is not a weapon and cannot be used in the way that you seem to think but I dont count you amongst the mature thinking people anyway.




THIS

x1000e1000



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:33 PM
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breitbart.com

Power of Moore tornado dwarfs Hiroshima bomb




Wind, humidity and rainfall combined precisely to create the massive killer tornado in Moore, Okla. And when they did, the awesome amount of energy released over that city dwarfed the power of the atomic bomb that leveled Hiroshima.

Meteorologists contacted by The Associated Press used real time measurements to calculate the energy released during the storm's life span of almost an hour. Their estimates ranged from 8 times to more than 600 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb.

Scientists know the key ingredients that go into a devastating tornado. But they are struggling to figure out why they develop in some big storms and not others. They also are still trying to determine what effects, if any, global warming has on tornadoes.


Scientist know the key ingredients that go into devastating tornados.

Imagine the possibilities



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:35 PM
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Funny that there's so many of you, with the "wasn't HAARP, you're sick, crazy" comments, attacking one person. But when this person snaps back, i'm suddenly breaking the rules? No matter what site i go to, shills are the easiest ones to spot. They attack without contributing anything factual. Usually the same ole tactics, DISTRACT! Weird how the 1st comment made, got so many stars, based on nothing. I shouldn't have to provide "proof". I think i've provided enough for even a basic internet user to get facts for themselves. There's more evidence that points to my "crazy" post, as compared to the "none facts" provided by your useless comments. Show me some facts that HAARP can't manipulate the weather. Your word is meaningless. My proof dates back ATLEAST 100 years, and yours????



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:38 PM
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I think you need to calm down a bit.

Who said it was a crime to ask questions? I certainly didn't.

You do, however, appear to be seriously underestimating the power of natural events, and you appear to be caught up in the internet sensationalist whirlwind at the moment.

Remember that meteor a few weeks back over Russia? No one saw that coming. No one. Had it been a few km lower it could have caused another Tuguska Event. That is the simple power and unpredictability of nature.

Step back. Think about it a while and let a cooler head prevail.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Hijinx
Short answer..... no... Long answer.... no..

Did this sum things up for you?

Pretty convenient that super weather weapon only ever seems to be used on the US homeland and never on the enemies in the middle east. Where's a devastating tornado in Afghanistan, Iraq, or how about Syria, or Iran...



Thank you. A voice of reason which I am glad to see most responders are putting the OP in his/her place.
Anyway it's pretty hard to get it to rain in the desert and harder to work up a tornado producing thunderstorm.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by siliconpsychosis

Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by WonderBoi
 


Sometimes I wish I could just reach into the computer screen and shake someone. In the midst of tragedy that some uncaring fool can make a suggestion that we brought this upon ourselves. Shame on you and every one of the members here who flagged this thread.
Children once again have been killed and your cold cold heart wants to make light of it?
Any mature thinking person knows that HAARP is not a weapon and cannot be used in the way that you seem to think but I dont count you amongst the mature thinking people anyway.



THIS

x1000e1000
Feelings are mutual! I wish i could reach into my computer and shake some of you, to the realization that we are in a war, while you're so "caught up in the midst of tragedy". The problem is, i'm NOT "caught up", i'm FED UP! No one is asking you to believe in the technology these lunatics running our world possess. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, SHAME ON ME. Some of you, should be ashamed of yourselves for believing the lies that come out of the mouths of government and scientists affiliated with them. Why do they need to inject RF signals into the ionosphere that protects us from deadly radiation? What planet do YOU PEOPLE live on???? TPTB have built nuclear powerplants on our shorelines, and you think they're "sane"? I really feel for humanity. Our lack of fight will be our demise!!!



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