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Originally posted by Cassie Clay
I believe that at some point within the next 5 years it is going to be impossible for us (and the media) to ignore the existence of extra-sensory perception.
Originally posted by Esoterica
Originally posted by Cassie Clay
I believe that at some point within the next 5 years it is going to be impossible for us (and the media) to ignore the existence of extra-sensory perception.
I wish I had a dated list of everytime someone has made this claim.
Originally posted by Cassie Clay
I wish I had a dated list of everyone who has posted a one-liner like yours yet has no proof whatsoever that extra-sensory perception does not exist. You would have been a hoot in Gallieo's time.
Originally posted by Esoterica
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Here's my proof:
I am going to read your mind.
*tries*
Can't.
[edit on 11-5-2004 by Esoterica]
Originally posted by Cassie Clay
I see your point on how a God-fearing president could be more understanding about these things...
It's just that with Russia & China doing things like conducting extensive psychic-training of adepts--and some of this training rumored to be not that far off from a "Scanners" scenario--would this ever occur to our govt as being something they should look into?
I think your comment about secret branches of govt/intelligence is probably the answer.
At any rate, I feel less and less comfortable about being open about these things--tho it's always cool to bait skeptics
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
An ironic or perhaps poetic justice twist to the spiritual-psychic arena is that only those who are on a very selfless path (above and beyond the saintly types who live by The Golden Rule and serve others) will be able to access a level of telekinetic or magickal energy whereby they could be considered truly dangerous -- beyond the martial arts (e.g., dim mak) soft style practitioners and telekinetics currently in existence around the world.
But that's just my opinion.
Originally posted by Cassie Clay
I hear what you're saying, but I have to disagree. I think the reason this mystic stuff has been kept so secret over the centuries is because the wise knew that this power could be harnessed for destructive means. The energy is there. It can be used for good or bad. The energy is amoral. Specifically, what I read was that these people in China were being taught how to give people brain hemmorages & seizures & stuff like that. Whether they have actually achieved this is another story.
Originally posted by Cassie Clay
With all due respect, this explanation signifies everything that "Deny Ignorance" fights against.
But I realize that with all the advancements in quantum theory and a world that every day is yielding more & more wonders, it can feel kinda scary. It's safe to stick to what you know. So I understand. But you must realize the day will come when such an attitude is going to be outdated.
And if you do some reading concerning contemporary physics, you'll see that this day has already arrived.
But this is all rather off-topic. Much like your first post.
Originally posted by iceofspades
Esoterica; While I understand your skepticism, you must not close your mind as it appears you are. History shows the one with the close-mind is pitied, while the one who dares to leap is great. Consider Newton, if you will.
Originally posted by Esoterica
Originally posted by iceofspades
Esoterica; While I understand your skepticism, you must not close your mind as it appears you are. History shows the one with the close-mind is pitied, while the one who dares to leap is great. Consider Newton, if you will.
Newton oberved a repeatable phenomena. If ESP is not repeatable or controllable, what good is it anyway?
Originally posted by iceofspades
I'm sorry but your argument is weak. Quantum physics was not something controllable, but when it was researched we began to understand it. The situation here is comparable. Sure we cannot control ESP for the use of lab experiments in a constant way, but does that mean we abandon it? No, of course not, that's just backwards.
Originally posted by Esoterica
Except people claim to be able to control their ESP powers. If this isn't the cas,e then the ESP people claim and the ESP that may exist are two different things.
Originally posted by Esoterica
If ESP is not repeatable or controllable, what good is it anyway?