Breaking:Holder Justice Department Also Tapped House of Representatives Cloak Room

Originally posted by Flatfish
You might also make note of the fact that all this could have been avoided if the reporter had just revealed the source. While I respect their right to protect their sources, everything has it's limits and when someone is putting our service men & women's lives in danger, illegally and needlessly, it's time to draw the line.

Also to be noted...DOJ didn't supeona the AP...the sueponaed the Telecom Providers.

They aren't going after the AP they are going after the LEAK.

It is not illegal to report secret material in the USA...it is illegal for government officials to leak secret material.

As the Update on the OP article clarifies..The DOJ did not "tap" congress or "tap" anyone...they pulled the phone logs from the telecom providers of the AP reporters.

So the only way anyone in congress might feel thier priveledged "seperation of powers" had been violated is if they were running to the cloak room after secret-level debriefings and calling AP reporters.

If Bradley manning is sitting in jail...I have little sympathy for a Congressman demanding he is above the law for leaking secrets that might still cost American lives...we will never know how much intelligence was lost after years of working to infiltrate Al-Qaida, or how close our agents were to death when the story broke, but we do know the operation saved a plane load of people from exploding over a major US City...And those undercover agents were blown in the leak. (see post on last page)

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Thanks so much Flatfish for explaining the situation!

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How about a legitimate source and not a few high school kids posting on a site they've created?!!

Originally posted by steveo007
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How about a legitimate source and not a few high school kids posting on a site they've created?!!

Did you watch the video, also included in this thread?

Well at least it was a native and not a foreigner. By the time a politician makes it up to Washington, he or she is already informed that no conversation is secure, and everything can be misquoted by the press.

They have microphones that can be worn inside the mouth, that's how much lack of privacy a politician has, even around the DOJ. With the way half of them are practicing security with chips in their hand to open doors and such, when they are on the clock they already realize their accountability for what they say.

It's all mostly benign because these ones can basically read one another from a distance and I suppose they all agree that the taxpayer is their worst enemy in the USA game.

So in light of that, the cloak room? Really? Doesn't Holder know the best stuff to be heard is in the bathrooms?

It is the DOJ's game to do spying like that under the color of law for finding malfeasance in the house of reps. It's what they do.

Originally posted by Indigo5
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AND HERE..

Hey folks...just cuz you like the headline is no excuse to stop thinking and eat what you are fed

Update on OP article...

The guy was saying...If they looked at the AP phone logs...then it's possible the AP reporters where talking to members of congress in the "cloak room"...thus members of Congress could be at risk in this investigation.

NOT that they tapped the "Cloak Room"

My opinion is...eff Congress...if someone in Congress leaked classified information that risked agents being killed...eff them. Do they get a free pass cuz they are a Congressman?

UPDATE
Rep. Nune’s director of communications, Jack Langer, clarified the congressman’s comments Thursday morning:

What Rep. Nunes meant by “tapped” was that the DOJ seized the phone records, as has been widely reported. There was a little confusion between him and the host during the conversation: He did not mean to refer to phone records of the cloakroom itself, but of the Capitol. This refers to the phone records for the AP from the House press gallery, which the DOJ admitted to looking at.

Seriously...if a Congressman is a source of the leak...they deserve a cell next to Bradley Manning.

Is anyone familiar with the Night of Long Knives?

Seems like where we could be headed. Just not sure which side will be on the pointed side of the blades. And the saddest part, either way it'll be the wrong side holding the handles.

Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by FlyersFan
The Obama administration is in total meltdown with lie after lie and coverup after coverup coming unraveled ... and yet I just turned on MSNBC and they were still being Obama cheerleaders.

The entire administration and all the minions .. Holder being chief minion ... need to be flushed.

so....if we don't believe what you say, and want to wait for the actual facts to come out, we are Obama cheerleaders, implying that we are stupid and ignorant. apparently, to you, there could not be any other reason why the IRS would ask these organizations questions concerning their eligibility for tax exempt status.
nothing that would have a red flag
nothing that maybe ring any bells

First try capitalizing the first letter of sentences. It helps when reading, even if it's a ridiculous post.

Then there's this on Obama's half brother. Linkypoo Yeah nothing to see here folks.

Originally posted by Indigo5

UPDATE
Rep. Nune’s director of communications, Jack Langer, clarified the congressman’s comments Thursday morning:

What Rep. Nunes meant by “tapped” was that the DOJ seized the phone records, as has been widely reported. There was a little confusion between him and the host during the conversation: He did not mean to refer to phone records of the cloakroom itself, but of the Capitol. This refers to the phone records for the AP from the House press gallery, which the DOJ admitted to looking at.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that this "update" changes the basic nature of this specific allegation. The real problem we have is that idiots are being elected to Congress. They're loose with the accusations and really ignorant concerning what their accusations actually mean. This is the dumbest crap I've seen in years. Since the Terry Schiavo "rescue". Man, that bit of Congressional theater was classic GOP Monty Python at its best.

I know this is going to be said again and again.....the left ....the right....they are one and the same! one is just as
dirty as the other. that being said all those out there who think you have options should think of how this country
has been led should look to this nation's past ! what are we if we do not speak the truth and make it known that we the people have no voice of how this nation is led.
our children are doomed and left to a corrupt government with little ammunition.

This last statement by the feds is 'not their issue'. So who is paying them?
I am sorry that greed and corruption ruined your country . We are in the same boat and fighting back for our country free from interference.
May all the people of your country wake up soon, we are and looking and hoping the reality will set in.
Namaste!

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Don't confuse the kids with facts dude.

This incident demonstates the complete idiocy of the mindset behind the war on terror. War on a noun and concept, something intangible. Intellectually bankrupt, yet the entire government is feverishly engaged in role playing in that regard.

Congress needs to start repealing some lousy laws they've passed in the last few decades.

I'm curious as to which of the various telecoms were responsible for handing over these records?