Tree Hugging Now Scientifically Validated

Originally posted by CovertAgenda
reply to post by Theflyingweldsman

 

As an entity that attempts to make pleasing sounds (to itself) on man-made and mainly inanimate objects by interfacing own cyclic interferences i ask you... Really? .... against your will?

My point is WHO ASKED THE PLANTS??? if they wanted to be involved??
Imposition of another's will is not acceptable, even in human/flora/fauna interactions.
Sure there is a relevant section in starfleets primedirective.doc

A great sage once said: Never ASSUME as it makes an ASS out of U and ME !!
(knowledge IS power remember)
(B.Hill 1924-1992)

Wow a cover band...how original.

I detect irony in your post... or is it sarcasm?

... it's hard to tell these days...

Plants will always have to suffer "Imposition of another's will"

From the humble fieldmouse, nibbling at an ear of corn

to an elephant ripping through the jungle with it's horn.

Human intervention is only one of the woes that plants have to endure.

Plants react to stimuli, Light, heat, touch, emotion...

Haven't you ever seen a sad pansy?

WHO ASKED THE PLANTS? ...Who ever asks the plants?


Does the apple question who plucks it?

Does the pea pop from the pod by mutual agreement?

Surely a sugarcane savours the sunshine shortly before being swiftly sliced by a sweating slave.

The starfleet directive applies only to plants from other planets.



And please don't quote Bill Hicks at me.

He stole that line from my wife's Grandad.


And they are not a cover band.

That was a tribute to George Harrison on the aniversary of his death.

Here's an original song from them



Tfw.

reply to post by purplemer


I would question the specifics of just what has been "scientifically validated". No mention is made of the doctors and professors who would have to be a part of such a validation, and without being able to refer to them directly for confirmation, I would be unwilling to see this as anything more than another post on a new age site.

However, the benifits of being around natures bounty in some other respects is well documented. Being around trees, and away from sources of burnt fossil fuel remnants for instance, is benificial and trees, which strip those things from the air, provide such an environment quite effectively. Also, because we have a deep seated, pre-historic connection with trees (since at one time, we were all scat lobbing, fur faced ape things so the story goes), there is some manner of peace we can attain from being surrounded by them, like familiar friends we havent seen for some time. The cosy companionship of long association.

Furthermore, the air in forested areas is suffused with many plesant, fresh smells, as well as the smells of old wood, and that fantastic smell of slowly decomposing leaves. I personally think the best time for a walk in the woods is when it is either raining, or has just rained, because the olfactory stimulation that situation provides always leaves me feeling fresh and in touch with things. Also, lets face it, if you can get up and down them without killing yourself, there is no such thing as too old to climb a tree, and accidents aside, climbing up and down things is damned good excersize!

Just the act of leaving your home or office, and actually getting out doors is almost garunteed to have positive health outcomes, barring serious allergic reactions to fungal spores, pollens, midge and insect bites and so on. Getting clean air in your lungs, a good walk under your feet, and spending time surrounded by gorgeous scenery is refreshing for both the body and the mind, as a break from the urban reality of the everyday. But this utter crap about vibrations, is totally unfounded as far as I am concerned. I dare anyone to find me actual proof of the letter of the claims being made. Yes, all the research under the sun is marvelous, but until someone goes out and proves this stuff with a bit more than case reports and actually does some proper experimentation, it will remain a theory, and a weak one at best.

You should hug trees, but dont do it because you are a airheaded hippy life drop out with no critical thinking skills! Do it because they are helping strip the by product of our stupidity out of the air for us! Do it because just being near them, in thier fresh airspace is good for you, and because they are wonderful, and marvelous, and nice to sit in on a warm summers day, to take refuge under from the relentless nature of a summer sun.

Great thread. When I first started to learn how to feel energy with my hand I practised on plants. It was hot on the injured or dying side and cold on the good side. As for trees, oak trees have one of the strongest energies compared to an evergreen tree all types and cedar is the strongest among them. This is where I live, now those giant cedars or redwoods I have never touched but they look strong.Trees can also tell if they are injured or happy where they are planted. This is my experience all self taught from books and practise, which anyone can do.

There was testing done by some European countries on the effect of a walk on a trail in the woods on relaxation. They found that the effect was real and it lasted quite a while after leaving the woods. They compared it to taking antidepressants. The research article said it should be researched more and it was very complex. I suppose there will be walk in the woods medications coming out in a dozen or so years Or maybe the Pharma companies will just try to discredit the research since they can't patent a walk in the woods.

Cool, you hug your tree...I'll hug my kids and grand kids.....

reply to post by nwtrucker


Scientifically speaking, that's even more beneficial than tree-hugging.

reply to post by LoneCloudHopper2


I used to walk through the woods and listen to the trees. After a while they really do almost seem to be talking and singing, if you listen right.

Besides a book for sale, where is the actual research and scientific review?

Sounds like someone is trying to sell a book (an old one at that, this came out in 2011) based on pseudo-science. Besides this same article from the website cut and pasted all over the internet on New Agey sites I can't find any link to anything that actually backs up the science part.

The fact is, it's already known that when humans do things that result in increases in oxytocin hormone levels (hugging, kissing, sex, viewing something you find attractive..etc) in the body, we feel pleasure and get health benefits. Until I see more evidence, I'm calling bullocks that it's some sort of vibrational transference. Instead of giving us a lecture about how science hasn't proven everything in the universe, let's see some references for the science behind this instead of trying to sell me a book. Please, no New Age youtube videos.

reply to post by jheherrin

Please, no New Age youtube videos.

Not even this one?



Here's a Sunday Times review of the book...

Some medical mumbo-jumbo is actually true

Some medical mumbo-jumbo actually true Magnets easing pain; healing vibes curing cancer; the Moon affecting your health... Book review: Blinded By Science, by Matthew Silverstone ...

No matter how many high-tech cures modern medicine brings us,
alternative evangelists will always argue loudly that the true secrets
of well-being lie in esoteric notions such as 'healing frequencies',
magnets and astrological alignments. The latest example of this is
a book by Matthew Silverstone, a successful London businessman.

He became fascinated by alternative medicine after seeing his
19-year-old son recover from a bout of chronic fatigue syndrome
so severe that he did not even have the energy to talk to people.

Despite being a tough-minded businessman, Silverstone believes the cure
was brought about by an alternative healer who recommended therapies
such as feeling the energy given off by trees.

In the book, Blinded By Science, Silverstone claims to have discovered
that the key to all health problems lies in the fact that 'everything vibrates
- absolutely everything, from the nucleus of an atom to the molecules of
our blood, our organs, our brain, light, sound, plants, animals, Earth, space,
the universe'.

Silverstone claims that if we were to embrace 'vibrational medicine'
by developing therapies based on sound waves, magnets,
and the Moon's electromagnetic pull, we could cure all the world's ills.

Tfw.

reply to post by Nevertheless


You know what? I can agree with everything you've said in this particular post

That being said, you've sent me on another foray into this subject ( the mechanism by which nature provides benefic effects) which I thank you for. I'm always interested inearning new things and this is a very interesting question to ponder.

There is still a need to investigate the mechanisms behind observed health benefits of the natural environment [9,10]. A greater understanding of how nature positively interacts with human socio-biology may be mutually beneficial to both health and the environment.

The great outdoors: how a green exercise environment can benefit all

reply to post by Theflyingweldsman


Yeah ...I always new that druids had something going on with this tree worship/plant oracle stuff....

www.youtube.com...

Whoever believes being close to nature isn't healthy is probably living in artificial life.

When you look at a plastic plant, it may look beautiful but you know it is nothing more than that, it won't change.


Whether it is green planets, or a dews on the leaves in the morning.. or a dark star filled night or a moonlit night... they make me feel at peace.

reply to post by Theflyingweldsman


Thanks for your input in the thread.. Plenty of reading material and food for thought...

reply to post by purplemer


Thank you.

I didn't mean to hijack your thread, I'm just interested in this too.

Always remember: Never hug a tree during a thunderstorm. Unless you want to find out more about the afterlife

reply to post by rickymouse


I also might add: take a good look to make sure it's not covered in ants.... I've had that happen.

You see, trees do it too and i have it on good authority that they were joyfully humming.
I would also like to direct your attention to the upper left corner (second forked branch from above), if you look very closely you can spot a pink elephant.

Hug on.

reply to post by purplemer


THe problem is that liberals will try to find any excuse to tax, even the air we breath. They will stop at nothing to steal from others, under the disguise of a good cause.

reply to post by amfirst1


Yeah... Damn Liberals...



How anyone can read politics into a thread about the healing power of trees is beyond me.

Did you read any more than the first line of the OP?

Native American wisdom: " A man's heart away from nature grows hard". -Standing Bear Oglala Tribe. We need nature to be fully human. This would help explain why people living in cities are generally regarded as more 'cold'. Country living is where its at.