My UFO theory- Who, Where & Why

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Of course this my original own idea/theory...therefore it is now time-stamped by ATS and will I have the law of everybody who will take a run with it...... I can use the money right now

No...just kiddin' ...If these stories about the US government working with ET's is true then some people must have the true story of the history of Earth and mankind writen down somewhere. Can you imagine what an interesting read that must be ?!

If disclosure will really happen some day it will not take long before some schoolbooks will drastically change in content I guess..

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Mmm, yes.

There is a thread somewhere here on ATS that puts this whole "alien tech in the hands of the goverment"-theory in perspective. It goes something like this:

when that famous UFO did (or didn't) crash in Roswell '47, and it started taking a "flying saucer" kind of turn the Army and the Intelligence Community saw a window of opportunity:
1) they could mask their secret project (Mogul) with a smokescreen UFO-story which in itself will only grow thicker the more they (righteously) deny it.
2) The "alien tech" story could potentially scare the living crap out of the soviets since no one could ever have anything comparable in their arsenal so they actually "leaked" this disinfo to the Russian ambassador and made sure that Russian diplomatic officials came over to New Mexico to take part of the hype.
In both cases, the Soviets got non the wiser about what was really going on. Confusion is a mighty weapon...

This is a little why I think that there is no extra terrestial tech in the possession of any goverment at the moment. If there was it would have been made public, either by official disclosure or by some whistleblower. Why hasn't Wikileaks found anything on this subject? Probably because there is none.
The deal is just as complex with disclosure about more general UFO-documentation in the hands of our militaries: disclosing that would also be disclosing surveillence equipment- where they are and their capacities. That stuff is probably more secret than what any cigar shaped object caught on film could ever be, trust me.

I wouldn't doubt that militaries world wide have plenty of material containing "rouge objects", "foo fighters" and your everyday "bogey" but I do doubt they know any more about them than what has already been laid before us in this very thread. They probably speculate as much as we do. It is how (i.e. with what kind of equipment) they picked that stuff up that makes it "TOP SECRET MAJIC" or "COSMIC TOP SECRET" (a personal favourite, lol).
Until the day a UFO causes some serious threat or harm to "national interests and security" they won't sweat it ever again like they did in the 50's and 60's.
That burden is now handed over to the tinfoil-hatted community that is us

reply to post by Raud


Yes, er... it was the 50's balconette-type.

reply to post by A boy in a dress


Ah yes, the very same outfit that burned stuck to my retina back in the mutter days then....

Ever thought those objects came to take a sneak peek, got their fill (from a respectable distance) and got the hell outta there at ludicrous speed?
Please tell me you'd taken care of the bikini line.....!

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well there is ragnarok and i'm happy you asked. I got a couple things to show you,
Some songs you can listen to well you get an update.

Ragnarok ("Doom of the Gods"), also called Gotterdammerung, means the end of the cosmos in Norse mythology. It will be preceded by Fimbulvetr, the winter of winters. Three such winters will follow each other with no summers in between. Conflicts and feuds will break out, even between families, and all morality will disappear. This is the beginning of the end. The wolf Skoll will finally devour the sun, and his brother Hati will eat the moon, plunging the earth [into] darkness. The stars will vanish from the sky. The cock Fjalar will crow to the giants and the golden cock Gullinkambi will crow to the gods.

A third cock will raise the dead. The earth will shudder with earthquakes, and every bond and fetter will burst, freeing the terrible wolf Fenrir. The sea will rear up because Jormungand, the Midgard Serpent, is twisting and writhing in fury as he makes his way toward the land. With every breath, Jormungand will stain the soil and the sky with his poison. The waves caused by the serpent's emerging will set free the ship Naglfar, and with the giant Hymir as their commander, the giants will sail towards the battlefield. From the realm of the dead a second ship will set sail, and this ship carries the inhabitants of hell, with Loki as their helmsman. The fire giants, led by the giant Surt, will leave Muspell in the south to join against the gods. Surt, carrying a sword that blazes like the sun itself, will scorch the earth. Meanwhile, Heimdall will sound his horn, calling the sons of Odin and the heroes to the battlefield. From all the corners of the world, gods, giants, dwarves,

demons and elves will ride towards the huge plain of Vigrid ("battle shaker") where the last battle will be fought. Odin will engage Fenrir in battle, and Thor will attack Jormungand. Thor will victorious, but the serpent's poison will gradually kill the god of thunder. Surt will seek out the swordless Freyr, who will quickly succumb to the giant. The one-handed Tyr will fight the monstrous hound Garm and they will kill each other. Loki and Heimdall, age-old enemies, will meet for a final time, and neither will survive their encounter. The fight between Odin and Fenrir will rage for a long time,

but finally Fenrir will seize Odin and swallow him. Odin's son Vidar will at once leap towards the wolf and kill him with his bare hands, ripping the wolf's jaws apart. Then Surt will fling fire in every direction. The nine worlds will burn, and friends and foes alike will perish. The earth will sink into the sea. After the destruction, a new and idyllic world will arise from the sea and will be filled with abundant supplies. Some of the gods will survive, others will be reborn. Wickedness and misery will no longer exist and gods and men will live happily together. The descendants of Lif and Lifthrasir will inhabit this earth.

Surt is Unas. Or krishna. the lion.

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This article is about the king of ancient Egypt. For the Stargate race, see Unas (Stargate). For the United Nations association, see United Nations Association of Singapore. For the village in Azerbaijan, see Ünəş.

Unas (pron.: /ˈjuːnəs/) or Oenas (pron.: /ˈiːnəs/; also spelled Unis or Wenis) was a Pharaoh of Ancient Egypt, and the last ruler of the Fifth dynasty from the Old Kingdom.[1] His reign has been dated between 2375 BC and 2345 BC.[2] Unas is believed to have had two queens, Nebet and Khenut, based on their burials near his tomb.[3]

With his death, the Fifth dynasty came to an end, according to Manetho; he probably had no sons. Furthermore, the Turin King List inserts a break at this point, which "gives us some food for thought," writes Jaromir Malek, "because the criterion for such divisions in the Turin Canon invariably was the change of location of the capital and royal residence."[4] However, there are several instances of uninterrupted continuity between the Fifth and the sixth dynasties: Kagemni, the vizer of Unas's successor Teti, began his career under Djedkare Isesi and Unas. Teti's queen, Iput, is believed to have been the daughter of Unas, which shows Teti, Nicolas Grimal argues, "made no conscious break with the preceding dynasty."[5] The break between the two dynasties may have been more as an official act than in fact.

He built a small pyramid at Saqqara, originally named "Beautiful are the places of Unas", close to the Step Pyramid of Djoser. It has been excavated by Vyse, Barsanti, Gaston Maspero, Firth, Selim Hassan, A. Husein, and Alexandre Piankoff.[6] Its interior is decorated with a number of reliefs detailing events during his reign as well as a number of inscriptions. However, Jaromir Malek considers "the main innovation of Unas' pyramid, and one that was to be characteristic of the remaining pyramids of the Old Kingdom (including some of the queens), was the first appearance of the Pyramid Texts".[7] These texts were inscribed in Sixth Dynasty royal versions, but Unas's texts contains verses and spells which were not included in the later 6th dynasty copies.[8] The pyramid texts were intended to help the king in overcoming hostile forces and powers in the Underworld and thus join with the Sun God Ra, his divine father in the afterlife.[9] The king would then spend his days in eternity sailing with Ra across the sky in a solar boat.[10]

An example of a pyramid Text here is given below:

Re-Atum, this Unas comes to you, A spirit indestructible...Your son comes to you, This Unas comes to you, May you cross the sky united in the dark. May you rise in lightland, the place in which you shine! (Utterance 217)[10]

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The Fifth Dynasty lasted for about a century and a quarter. It began with Userkaf, the first babe mentioned in the Dedi folk tale, and he was succeeded in turn by the other two, who were not, however, his brothers. The ninth and last king of the Dynasty was Unas. In the so-called "Pyramid Texts", in his own tomb and that of Teta, the first king of the Sixth Dynasty, the monarch was deified as a star god, and has been identified with the constellation of Orion. The conception is a remarkable one. It smacks of absolute savagery, and we seem to be confronted with a symbolic revival of pre-Dynastic cannibalistic rites which are suggested, according to Maspero, by the gnawed and disconnected bones found in certain early graves. At the original Sed festival the tribal king, as Professor Petrie suggests, appears to have been sacrificed and devoured, so that his people might derive from his flesh and blood the power and virtues which made him great. The

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practice was based on belief in contagious magic. Bulls and boars were eaten to give men strength and courage, deer to give fleetness of foot, and serpents to give cunning. The blood of wounded warriors was drunk so that their skill and bravery might be imparted to the drinkers. 1 King Unas similarly feasts after death on "the spirits" known at Heliopolis as "the fathers and the mothers", and on the bodies of men and gods. He swallows their spirits, souls, and names, which are contained in their hearts, livers, and entrails, and consequently becomes great and all-powerful. 2 The resemblance to the man-eating giants of Europe is very striking.

The rendering which follows of the remarkable Unas hymn is fairly close. It is cast in metrical form with endeavour to reproduce the spirit of the original.

ORION 3 IN EGYPT

Now heaven rains, and trembles every star
With terror; bowmen scamper to escape;
And quakes old Aker, lion of the earth,
While all his worshippers betake to flight,
For Unas rises and in heaven appears
Like to a god who lived upon his sires
And on his mothers fed.

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Unas the lord
Of wisdom is; the secret of his Name
Not e'en his mother knows. . . . His rank is high
In heaven above; his power is like to Tum's,
His sire divine. . . . Greater than Tum is he.

His shadowy doubles follow him behind
As he comes forth. The uræus on his brow
Uprears; the royal serpent guides him on;
He sees his Ba 1 a flame of living fire.

The strength of Unas shields him. . . He is now
The Bull of Heaven, doing as he wills,
Feeding on what gives life unto the gods--
Their food he eats who would their bellies fill
With words of power from the pools of flame.

Against the spirits shielded by his might,
Unas arises now to take his meal--
Men he devours; he feasts upon the gods
This lord who reckons offerings: he who makes
Each one to bow his forehead, bending low.

Amkenhuu is snarer; Herthertu
Hath bound them well; and Khonsu killer is
Who cuts the throats and tears the entrails out--
'Twas he whom Unas sent to drive them in . . .
Divided by Shesemu, now behold
The portions cooking in the fiery pots.

Unas is feasting on their secret Names;
Unas devours their spirits and their souls--
At morn he eats the largest, and at eve
The ones of middle girth, the small at night:
Old bodies are the faggots for his fire.

Lo! mighty Unas makes the flames to leap
With thighs of agèd ones, and into pots
Are legs of women flung that he may feast.

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Unas, the Power, is the Power of Powers!
Unas, the mighty god, is god of gods!
Voraciously he feeds on what he finds,
And he is given protection more assured
Than all the mummies 'neath the western sky.

Unas is now the eldest over all--
Thousands he ate and hundreds he did burn;
He rules o'er Paradise. . . .Among the gods
His soul is rising up in highest heaven--
The Crown is he as the horizon lord.

He reckoned livers as he reckoned knots;
The hearts of gods he ate and they are his;
He swallowed up the White Crown and the Red,
And fat of entrails gulped; the secret Names
Are in his belly and he prospers well--
Lo! he devoured the mind of every god,
And so shall live for ever and endure
Eternally, to do as he desires.

The souls of gods are now in his great soul;
Their spirits in his spirit; he obtains
Food in abundance greater than the gods--
His fire has seized their bones, and lo! their souls
Are Unas's; their shades are with their forms.

Unas ascends. . . . Unas ascends with these--
Unas is hidden, is hidden 1 . . . . An One
For him hath ploughed . . . . The seat of every heart Is
Unas's among all living men.

Footnotes

155:1 The lion Aker was another earth god.

159:1 See Lane's Manners and Customs the Modern Egyptians. (Chapters xi and xx).

159:2 See Chapter V.

160:1 The duck-headed serpent recalls the fire drake of the Beowulf poem. Giants with cats' heads and dogs' heads are found in Celtic folklore.

160:2 King James in his Dæmonology (Book II, Chap. v) says: "The devil teacheth how to make pictures of wax or clay, that by roasting thereof, the persons that they beat the name of may be continually melted or dried away by continual sickness."

161:1 In the Reign of Rameses II, Khattusil, the Hittite king, visited Egypt. An inscription at Abu Simbel expresses the hope that on his journey homeward he will not be delayed by snow and ice on the mountains. Isaiah makes symbolic reference to the serpent: "In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing (or stiff) serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea" (Isaiah, xxvii, 1).

161:2 As in the Nifel-hel of Teutonic mythology.

161:3 The Mohammedan noonday prayer is probably a survival of the sun worshippers' custom.

162:1 Gods and Pharaohs had several Kas. Ra had fourteen, and he had also seven Bas (souls).

168:1 In the Nibelungenlied the Burgundians drink the blood of fallen heroes and are refreshed and strengthened. See Teutonic Myth and Legend.

168:2 Dr. Budge is of opinion that human beings were sacrificed to the sun god. The practice was "of vital importance". Referring to the Ra obelisk in the early sun temples, he says that "the size and number of conduits to carry away blood bears evidence of the magnitude of the slaughterings" (Osiris and the Egyptian Resurrection and Gods of the Egyptians).

168:3 Osiris, in his fusion with Ra, is addressed as "thou first great sun god", and Isis says: "There proceedeth from thee the strong Orion in heaven at evening, at the resting of every day."--The Burden of Isis ("Wisdom of the East" Series) trans. by Dennis, p. 24.

169:1 Soul.

170:1 Hail, thou hidden god, Osiris in the underworld."--The Burden of Isis, p. 54.

Referr to the link bro. You might like all the stuff in there. But yeah the black dogs and black cats are Yahweh. Anubis. Who is at war with Ba'al The reptillians from the pleiades. Anubis is a being made of dark matter but enjoys either a black wolf or black panther form. Anubis is not jackle he is a black wolf. I don't know why people keep spreading the uncertainty because its even clearly stated in any offical document about anubis they PRESUME he is a jackle. Therefore. Some people know hes a black wolf but will not admit it because that raises the question of Skin walkers. Which would reveal a little to much truth don't you think? I mean considering Anubis is seen both as a straight up black wolf or a humanoid with a wolf head.

Yet people see skin walkers quite often and everyone who sees them almosts agrees they are extremely powerful. Which is true. Considering that the mass contained within a particle of dark energy can create stars and planets. Since it used to be stars at one point but was crushed into singularities by black holes and spat out the other side. This is what darkness is made of around us. And we are being engaged by reptillians who are not *accended* into darkness. If you were accended into darkness than the eternal fire or the eternal light within darkness would be revealed to you . Try to imagine splitting an atom. Thats just 1 partical. Now try imagine splitting a particle of darkness... Now imagine a being accended into darkness. If its eyes are glowing red that means its * opening its Mouth* revealing some of the flame within. Which burns hotter than any atomic explosion. This fire is contained within their dark protective coat. But if they chose to reveal this fire it would consume you mind body and soul because black holes crush matter and convert it into dark energy like how i explained. Meaning these void beings can do the same to a person if they so wanted to.

Take this into account, they are not evil because they CHOSE not to devour you. When they could use you as spiritual sustainance they reframe from doing so... why? because they love us. And created us. They actually used their technology when creating us and gave us physical immortality meaning that we were flesh and blood but could live thousands of years. These were the great kings. And only a few great kings actually accended and became * arch angels* or *solar gods* because of the eternal fire burning in them.

These aliens left technology. accension temples behind that peel back the darkness. You drink an elixire or pour a type of chemical on you then you jump into this fire and instead of it consuming you completely it reconfigures you into a void being. A being a pure light. A light hidden from man. Think of watchmen with doctor manhatten your body is vaporized and you are given a new one once the energy condenses fully. Which it will because the fire pulls it all into its base components but leaves the memories in tact. Well the body is recreated.

The reptillians want to extract the gene that was passed down heritarly through the blood lines and isolate it so they can live forever physically. They only live a set ammount of years and they die. They do not live thousands of years and so their jelousy for our gifts have led them to flock here like a murder or ravens.
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And Unas is an Ancient king and is still alive. He sleeps for thousands of years and reincarnates. Through processes of black matter and leaving urns in undisturbed tombs. Its sort of like the Lich mythology in dungeons and dragons where a lich places his soul in a plylantry in order to retain passed memories when you Respawn. AKA reincarnate. Only difference in DND lore is the lich is fully resorted. Taken from a game written before computers were invented so im guessing its based off of some story they heard or made up. Reguardless its interesting.

So anyways its not entirely for our soul. I believe they have memories like we do and so logically those memories condense. Like how matter is condensed within a black hole. I believe this generates our *aura* and peoples auras can change based on what memories they have obtained.

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OK, thank you for your input.
What surprises me most is how you seem to circumvent the character limit for one post (!).

I tried going through the whole thing but I have a hard time getting the point as it seems to slip away into a thick fog of confusing information.
What seems to be at hand here are various legends, spiced with arbitrary meaning given to them to support a pretty wild story, if you ask me.
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but you really have to write in a whole different manner if you want to make yourself understood. It is all too complex to grasp. There is no focus, no conclusion and no rationale in how the theory is put forward. The rap music adds nothing to it either, I'm afraid (are they to be considered information sources, or what?).
I guess you have a lot on your mind but you really have to break it all down into understandable blocks for the rest of us to relate to. It is all too much "it's just like that, because" and that kind of argumentation doesn't ring very well with me, I'm sorry.
I'll go through that stuff one more time, later on to see if I can salvage something out of it. I just stopped by here to escape my regular stuides....

What I did like, however, was the clip with Paul Hellyer ("hell yeah" lol). I love those kind of things when people get serious with the issue. That gives the debunkers a hard time sleeping at night, I reckon

Btw- Rangarök, I know all about that stuff. It's sorta who I am.

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I would think it would be powered via magnetic forces, rather than gravitational ones. Did you read the recent thread about NASA finding magnetic portals in Earth's magnetosphere? Interesting stuff. Also, we are already working on warp drive tech now.

It's so hard to read through all the crap and dig out the information, evidence and testimony that seems real. So far...My Hypothesis is that: We are being visited and have been for thousands of years. It's only 2-3 separate species or civilizations doing it. The agenda is scientific research and observation with a later goal of disclosure when they think we're ready. Some sightings, crop circles and abductions are real and part of this is how they are slowly getting us to disclosure and making themselves known. Of course, this could be hundreds of years away. Who knows. This hypothesis will change as I do more research. Edit to add that I could be totally wrong and am not believing all of this 100% and I remain open to good counter arguments etc.