The REAL Reason Israel Attacked Syria

Originally posted by Zaanny
I thought it was because ZIONIST Jews want the book of revelation to come to be.....

edit on 8-5-2013 by Zaanny because: (no reason given)

bro thats from the new testament. jews nont believe in the new testament

Originally posted by all2human
reply to post by seabag

 

What threat does Isreal pose to Syria? hmm lets see..www.youtube.com...
I'm done with you man,you can argue with me till your blue in the face,but the fact is Syria was bombed and it's citizens died
I understand the situation in the middle east but this attack on Syria came completely unprovoked,you can point fingers to all sides usually but this time it's squarly on Israel.

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LOL yes completely unprovoked...doesnt matter what news you watch Syria is the bad guys they have always been the bad guys. And personally if someone is dicking with chemical weapons in my back yard..I will do what ever it takes to stop it..also no one is afraid of a nuclear responce from Iran, hell they are smart enough to know they would be turned into a sheet of glass if one was ever used...the only ones that dont seem to get that is the north korean's

Originally posted by Zaanny
I thought it was because ZIONIST Jews want the book of revelation to come to be.....

edit on 8-5-2013 by Zaanny because: (no reason given)

The book of revelation is part of the New Testament...... The Torah (Jewish Bible) only contains books from the Old Testament.....

So no.. They wouldn't even have read the book of Revelation.....

double post...

From a geopolitical standpoint, I sort of saw this coming when the alleged "Arab Spring" began with Tunisia.
It's the polarization of sides. For and Against Israel, the biggest stumbling block was Syria, being closely allied to Iran, and since 2002 to Turkey (a strong member of Nato) a separation had to be made. In 2007 the countries signed a free-trade agreement, bringing them even closer together.
In 2009, Syria and Turkey announced a significant upgrade in their alliance, and the military partnership with joint military manoeuvres, something that REALLY pissed off Israel.
Many experts expected an announcement that Syria was going to begin purchasing Turkish weaponry, (Turkey invested heavily in building their own weapons industry as of 2010).
Now that Turkey has turned on Syria, it draws out a clearer picture on "sides".
The question in my mind is, after these dictators fall, will fundamentalist Islamic leaders emerge? If so, isn't that worse for Israel and her allies?

reply to post by Romeo1

no one is afraid of a nuclear responce from Iran, hell they are smart enough to know they would be turned into a sheet of glass if one was ever used...the only ones that dont seem to get that is the north korean's

Iran really isn’t saying much aside from their call to action of civilians to support Assad. Iran certainly isn’t talking military engagement to save their buddy.

You’re right about Iran and NK. At least the leaders of Iran are smart enough to know they don’t want to get into a conflict with a superior force…yet. I think that has a lot to do with NK’s isolation as well as the state of its nuclear program (more advanced than Iran’s). I bet Iran's stance would be different if it had it's nuke.

Please spare us the innocent Iran line as these sanctions are enacted by the UN,not the US or Israel by themselves.2:Those thousands of missiles in the possession of Iran surrogates Hezbollah and Hamas has MADE IN IRAN on them and in Hamas case fired almost daily into Israel.As Iran says it will destroy this,that and everyone not on their side Hamas and Hezbollah are the ones ACTUALLY doing the their dirty work because their to cowardly to face Israel.Too pathetic...

For the past year or so, it's been speculated that Israel would make a move against Iran before Iran developed nuclear technology. Israel has admitted as much, and I wouldn't be shocked if they're trying to pull Iran into a larger conflict.

Anyone ever thought that Israel may be one big jew trap? I.E get them all or as many as pos into one place and then the then destroy the place? Im not a religous man at all but just like to think about all possibilities and I get suspicious when a big chunk of people all start thinking a certain way I don't think its allways an accident if you know what I mean?

reply to post by ThePeopleParty

Anyone ever thought that Israel may be one big jew trap?

JEW TRAP!

I.E get them all or as many as pos into one place and then the then destroy the place? Im not a religous man at all but just like to think about all possibilities and I get suspicious when a big chunk of people all start thinking a certain way I don't think its allways an accident if you know what I mean?

I don’t think this is the case because Muslim countries wouldn’t be working so hard to kick them out of the region and the Jews would have been welcomed back with open arms in 48’.

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Romeo1

 

Iran really isn’t saying much aside from their call to action of civilians to support Assad. Iran certainly isn’t talking military engagement to save their buddy.

You’re right about Iran and NK. At least the leaders of Iran are smart enough to know they don’t want to get into a conflict with a superior force…yet. I think that has a lot to do with NK’s isolation as well as the state of its nuclear program (more advanced than Iran’s). I bet Iran's stance would be different if it had it's nuke.


Agree...I would hope others wold learn from the cold war between the US and Russia...one mistake and you have no country to saber rattle in...

I'm all for it.

More than likely that war would be the economy killer that America needs. Also, I think it'd turn many countries that currently have an indifferent opinion of Israel against them.

Awaken the sleeping giants (Russia and China)!

This thread should have ended a few pages back because the real reason Israel attacked Syria, was because it would be idiotic to let Hamas and Hezbollah continue to build up supplies from Iran, that are currently and would eventually be used against Israel. This was not an offensive and unprovoked strike. Anyone that says as much is a biased idiot who is ignoring the last few years of constant attacks by these groups, firing rockets aimed at civilian targets in Israel. Keep ignoring that, when you demonize Israel, you tools.

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I think it could be the case. You have to ask did people stop hating Jews after the Holocoust? Not really... So maybe its another camp. Sadly it COULD be the case. Who knows...

Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by Zaanny
I thought it was because ZIONIST Jews want the book or revelation to come to be.....

That very well might be the case but I think if Israel wanted war with Iran they could do a little better at provoking Iran than 2 small strikes on insignificant targets in Syria.

What was suggested in the video doesn't makes sense....seems too subtle. I think it would take more than that to draw Iran into certain destruction.

I totally agree. There is way too much reaching and agenda driven BS as it is without taking something and attaching a ludicrous reason for an action. If they (Israel) wanted to do something to draw Iran in they have a number of ways to achieve that with much more of a chance of success than this.

Wow, things are escalating all around the region at this point.

Iran Teetering on the Brink of Political Chaos

Iran is teetering on the brink of political chaos in the wake of last week’s news that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was arrested, questioned and warned to shut up by the heads of the Islamic regime’s security forces before being released seven hours later.

Worth the read. The article points out things that are known about Iran's political system but gives some insight of the struggle between Ahmadinejad and the "supreme leader".

reply to post by Konstantinos


Your analysis is great.

The British empire deepened the divide between Shia and Sunni by taking sides (empire favoured Sunni), and this goes on till today in the policies of USA.

Please remember that Shia population coexisted with Sunni under Mughal rule in India, when a large number of Shia migrated from Persia and Babylon to India.

Shia in Lebanon, Syria and Iran will never have it easy due to US policies. As they are the targets.

The weapons (chemical, nuclear) are just excuses for political expediency. The Shia are under attack and they will definitely do something to save themselves, which includes acquiring weaponry. It is only natural.

The US/NATO has already established a pattern of action in the Middle East which consists of achieving results by using proxies.

I don't think Israel, admittedly a potential proxy, will get into any kind of serious confrontation with Iran until issues in Kurdistan are well advanced. I think that now that the PKK have withdrawn from Turkey, there will be an acceleration to set up an independent Kurdish state. I think they will probably encroach on Iranian territory in doing so and this will be where military conflict with Iran starts, via the Kurdish proxy.

I think a lot of things will have to be arranged before we move into the military phase against Iran. Diplomatic and trade understandings will have to be reached with China, Russia and if possible, Iraq.

I don't think things will heat up now despite the Israeli strikes.

What happens depends to a great deal on how well the Obama faction can hold the line in Washington against more impatient elements.

Azerbaijan is a key player in the anticipated developments.

The following article is worth reading and makes the points that Azerbaijan is secular, has close military and diplomatic ties with Israel and has a rocky relationship with Iran.

www.timesofisrael.com...

Israel and Azerbaijan have strong diplomatic and economic ties that deepened in 2012. During that year, the two countries signed a $1.4 billion arms deal, while Azerbaijan’s state oil company invested in an Israeli offshore oil drilling project.

During the same period, relations between Iran and secular-minded Azerbaijan became increasingly rocky. In March of 2012, Azerbaijan broke up what it said was a Iranian-trained terror ring planning to attack Israeli and American targets in the country, and in December, Iran accused Azerbaijan of using Israeli drones to spy on the Islamic Republic across their shared border.

There were also recurring reports that Azerbaijan had permitted Israel to use its airstrips as a launch pad for an attack on Iran.

There are also many ethnic Azeris in western Iran. The following map shows where the Kurds live in Turkey, Iraq and Iran. The Iranian area nearby is also home to large numbers of Azeris.

This area is saturated with oil fields and is very important to the economy of Iran and the others.

I'm convinced that this is where the trouble will start for the Islamist government of Iran.



Just looking at the map one can see the possibilities. Notice the areas where the ethnic Azeris form the majority, within Iran. Notice the province of Kordestan also.

commons.wikimedia.org...:Azeris_in_Iran.jpg

I think they will try to bite off that western end of Iran. I think most of the hard fighting will be done by NATO backed Kurds who will try to push through to the Caspian Sea. In the process they will create a Kurdish state and enlarge the state of Azerbaijan.

It's a wild idea. Very disruptive. I hope it doesn't happen but taking all things into consideration it looks like that's where things are headed. It will probably take at least a year to get to the kickoff, probably more. There are a lot of "what ifs". Maybe five years is a more reasonable window.

Other things could happen but if this is not on somebody's wall at the State Department, I would be shocked.