Identity of the orbs found under the feathered serpent temple at Teotihuacan

Here are some photos recently released that show the newly discovered oxidized and decayed orbs found under the temple of the feathered serpent at Teotihuacan, Mexico.





If those yellow spots really were once orbs then they possibly represent the spheres on Xiuhcoatl’s snout. Xiuhcoatl is known as the Aztec fire serpent and it is adorned on the façade of the feathered serpent temple at Teotihuacan. Here are a few pictures of Xiuhcoatl.


Xiuhcoatl has the tail of a rattlesnake.




The fire serpent is no ordinary snake because it has two arms.




This drawing is from the Aztec sun stone. You can see seven or eight orbs on its snout. Xiuhcoatl is devouring someone in this representation.




The Aztec sun stone with two fire serpents on its perimeter. Both serpents have multiple orbs on their snout.




This head of the serpent only shows three orbs.




This is the feathered serpent temple at Teotihuacan. Xiuhcoatl is the one with the donut circles and rattle tail.



The orb symbol seems very important with this serpent creature. These orbs could represent stars or terrestrial UFO’s. Only after unlocking the next three chambers will we really know.

Interesting, while i am not fully convinced.

I would like to add a link with pics of the position of the digsite and some 3D mapping of the site.

Unfortunately i can't embed the pics here, so you have to go there

Click the pics

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S& F... Excellent detective work!!! Thank- you for possibly solving this mystery... It makes sense!

omg its the dragonballs!

Excellent thread thank you

I've been discussing this at work with a colleague Whilst this may not be definitive proof it is at the very least a very plausible theory.

Thanks again S&F

Cody

Apparently the balls were clay clad with the mineral Pyrite which has now decomposed:



The Maya made mirrors from Pyrite.

Originally posted by yampa
Apparently the balls were clay clad with the mineral Pyrite which has now decomposed:

The Maya made mirrors from Pyrite.

How did you come to this conclusion that these balls were clad in Pyrite????

Did you actually read the papers?

The composition of the balls is a Ball of Clay covered in yellow material called JAROSITE

Remember JAROSITE and Not PYRITE!!!

Originally posted by coredrill


How did you come to this conclusion that these balls were clad in Pyrite????

Did you actually read the papers?

The composition of the balls is a Ball of Clay covered in yellow material called JAROSITE

Remember JAROSITE and Not PYRITE!!!

Um, the Jarosite is caused by the decomposition of Pyrite or other iron sulfides

en.wikipedia.org...
"This sulfate mineral is formed in ore deposits by the oxidation of iron sulfides. "

www.otago.ac.nz...

Same rock specimen as above, showing the outside surface. The yellow-brown stain on the rock surface is formed as the pyrite and marcasite decompose in rainwater to jarosite (yellow sulphate mineral) and limonite (brown rusty iron oxide).

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They may have shimmered like balls of fire in the presence of flame or sun. It could have been similar to this ball of fire in this image at Chalcatzingo, a Mesoamerican site dating back to 1500 BCE.



Sketch of Monument 1, El Rey, at Chalcatzingo. The ball of fire is sitting on the flying cave.




The actual relief of El Rey



A link to an image of the whole monument

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Does the wiki article state pyrite?
Iron sulphides are a group and to imply that the Clay balls were covered in Pyrite because jarosite is a by product of oxidation of iron Suphides.
Then why didnt you state that the clay balls were covered with Marcasite, which also is a Iron Sulphide?

Just because, a shiny compound of Pyrite is more attractive than a non shiny compound of Marcasite, right???

Originally posted by coredrill
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Does the wiki article state pyrite?
Iron sulphides are a group and to imply that the Clay balls were covered in Pyrite because jarosite is a by product of oxidation of iron Suphides.
Then why didnt you state that the clay balls were covered with Marcasite, which also is a Iron Sulphide?

Just because, a shiny compound of Pyrite is more attractive than a non shiny compound of Marcasite, right???

Ok, yes, it could be coated in another iron sulfide (I did say 'or other iron sulfides'). But it's not only me making the connection with pyrite.

George Cowgill, professor emeritus at Arizona State University, told Discovery News the find was “unique”.

He said: “Pyrite was certainly used by the Teotihuacanos and other ancient Mesoamerican societies. Originally the spheres would have shone brilliantly. They are indeed unique, but I have no idea what they mean.”

The walls of the tunnels are covered in a mineral powder made up of magnetite, pyrite and hematite.

Do you have any reason to favour marcasite? Pyrite is the most common iron suphate decorative material known to be used by the Teotihuacanos. What's your beef with pyrite?

Whatever the actual material, the balls were likely never deliberately covered in jarosite.

Just that you are stating assumptions related to Pyrites just for the sensationalism because it is quite shiny.
Thats my beef. Wheres my beer?

I just wanted to point out that there is a feathered serpent base relief at Chalcatzingo. As you walk eastward from monument 1 (the one with the little fire ball) you run into a base relief depicting a serpent creature devouring a human.

Monument 5 depicts a reptilian creature, perhaps the archetypical Mesoamerican feathered serpent, devouring (or, less likely, disgorging) a human. The creature has an elongated snout with large fangs, and triangular markings towards its tail as well as what appear to be fins or wings.

en.wikipedia.org...

The object protruding out of the serpent’s head kind of reminds me of a horn. The feathered serpent creature at Teotihuacan is portrayed with curved horns. Also, the mention of triangular markings at the end of its tail reminded me of the Xiuhcoatl tail iconography.

Here’s a small sketching of Monument 5



I wonder if some people from Chalcatzingo founded Teotihuacan?

Originally posted by lostinspace
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They may have shimmered like balls of fire in the presence of flame or sun. It could have been similar to this ball of fire in this image at Chalcatzingo, a Mesoamerican site dating back to 1500 BCE.

Sketch of Monument 1, El Rey, at Chalcatzingo. The ball of fire is sitting on the flying cave.

This pic looks like a big ship( bottom one) trying to take off by moving left and 3 smaller ships flying above it dropping bombs on it.
Am i the only one seeing this ?