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Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by mysticnoon
Originally posted by smithjustinb
The universal self is you when you identify yourself as being the universe.
You see, my issue is with this ubiquetousness of "self". To my understanding, in love there is only other, not the self. Total love means forgetting self and being absorbed in the beloved.
edit on 6-5-2013 by mysticnoon because: (no reason given)
I dont forget the self, but I do become.absorbed, and in that absorption,I find my greater self. So love is shown as an opportunity to improve the self.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by mysticnoon
Originally posted by smithjustinb
The universal self is you when you identify yourself as being the universe.
You see, my issue is with this ubiquetousness of "self". To my understanding, in love there is only other, not the self. Total love means forgetting self and being absorbed in the beloved.
edit on 6-5-2013 by mysticnoon because: (no reason given)
I dont forget the self, but I do become.absorbed, and in that absorption,I find my greater self. So love is shown as an opportunity to improve the self.
Can the 'Self' be improved? Only an 'individual self' would want to improve.edit on 6-5-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by mysticnoon
Originally posted by smithjustinb
The universal self is you when you identify yourself as being the universe.
You see, my issue is with this ubiquetousness of "self". To my understanding, in love there is only other, not the self. Total love means forgetting self and being absorbed in the beloved.
edit on 6-5-2013 by mysticnoon because: (no reason given)
I dont forget the self, but I do become.absorbed, and in that absorption,I find my greater self. So love is shown as an opportunity to improve the self.
Can the 'Self' be improved? Only an 'individual self' would want to improve.edit on 6-5-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
What else would motivate one to seek the truth?edit on 6-5-2013 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by mysticnoon
Originally posted by smithjustinb
The universal self is you when you identify yourself as being the universe.
You see, my issue is with this ubiquetousness of "self". To my understanding, in love there is only other, not the self. Total love means forgetting self and being absorbed in the beloved.
edit on 6-5-2013 by mysticnoon because: (no reason given)
I dont forget the self, but I do become.absorbed, and in that absorption,I find my greater self. So love is shown as an opportunity to improve the self.
Can the 'Self' be improved? Only an 'individual self' would want to improve.edit on 6-5-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
What else would motivate one to seek the truth?edit on 6-5-2013 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)
When the truth is found - who is there to seek?
Originally posted by smithjustinb
What else would motivate one to seek the truth, if not the desire for greater? To desire to improve due to dissatisfaction with what is is one thing. Desiring to improve your ability to accept things as they are is another. Improvement through love improves without changing anything, but improves by allowing the self to manifest increasing glory of what already exists.edit on 6-5-2013 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)edit on 6-5-2013 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by smithjustinb
What else would motivate one to seek the truth, if not the desire for greater? To desire to improve due to dissatisfaction with what is is one thing. Desiring to improve your ability to accept things as they are is another. Improvement through love improves without changing anything, but improves by allowing the self to manifest increasing glory of what already exists.edit on 6-5-2013 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)edit on 6-5-2013 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)
Do you think there is a truth and a you?
All is the Self.
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by smithjustinb
What else would motivate one to seek the truth, if not the desire for greater? To desire to improve due to dissatisfaction with what is is one thing. Desiring to improve your ability to accept things as they are is another. Improvement through love improves without changing anything, but improves by allowing the self to manifest increasing glory of what already exists.edit on 6-5-2013 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)edit on 6-5-2013 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)
Do you think there is a truth and a you?
All is the Self.
They are the same.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by preludefanguy
It is better to experience the truth and not know what to call it than to know what to call the truth and not be able to experience it.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by smithjustinb
What else would motivate one to seek the truth, if not the desire for greater? To desire to improve due to dissatisfaction with what is is one thing. Desiring to improve your ability to accept things as they are is another. Improvement through love improves without changing anything, but improves by allowing the self to manifest increasing glory of what already exists.edit on 6-5-2013 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)edit on 6-5-2013 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)
Do you think there is a truth and a you?
All is the Self.
They are the same.
So when the truth is found - who is there that can seek?
The seeking ends. Nothing more to be had - this is it!
Nothing 'else'.edit on 6-5-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by smithjustinb
There is no effort to be made to improve. By accepting things as they are and stopping.the search for.other, improvement happens on its own.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by smithjustinb
There is no effort to be made to improve. By accepting things as they are and stopping.the search for.other, improvement happens on its own.
What needs to improve? Who can accept or stop?
Originally posted by smithjustinb
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by smithjustinb
There is no effort to be made to improve. By accepting things as they are and stopping.the search for.other, improvement happens on its own.
What needs to improve? Who can accept or stop?
Going from not knowing or being able to see the truth to knowing or being able to see the truth is the improvement that happens without a change in anything except attitude. No further change required.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
When the truth is found - who is there to seek?
Originally posted by mysticnoon
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
When the truth is found - who is there to seek?
How can you know that the supposed truth found is not merely a dim reflection of the real truth?
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
And you are probably the same as I.
There is only one 'I'.
The all seeing, all knowing and ever present eye.edit on 6-5-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
And you are probably the same as I.
There is only one 'I'.
The all seeing, all knowing and ever present eye.edit on 6-5-2013 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Is that all you have as an answer to many options; I wasted my time and obviously yours as well as they flew right over your head.