CCTV turned off in mid sized Australian town

reply to post by cartenz


Not all homicides are released to the public!

As for cctv...it is a placebo...
it didn't reduce crime, it just moved it

and considering also that some of the cameras 'conveniently' don't work sometimes... pfft !

just like the camera cctv at the club where Lapthorne was last seen were not working.... too much corruption.

I have several cameras on my property and caught some kids tearing up a camper. called the police and he didn't want to look at the video. Basically said if he didn't see it then it wasn't a crime. Ok I'll handle it next time I told him. I have a backhoe so it shouldn't be an issue.

In light of the recent bombings in Boston, meteors in russia and other such things possibly caught on CCTVs, I highly doubt this could hold merit in America. We have simply too many skilled lawyers / lobbyist whom been through so much political warfare that they are prepared to handle most anything.

The next internet will be the Visual Net, and for the most part it's been here before the internet, but soon even you will be able to use button sized sticky Ip cams.

yes Button sized Sticky Ip Cams can be placed anywhere, accessed by the Ip owner from any location via internet and you can be entertainment for another.

Hopefully we'll have Personal electromagnetic Shields

Originally posted by Thurisaz

Not all homicides are released to the public!

I never said public; I just said I could show you where to find them. But if they never happened then I guess those stats wont reflect as such

As for cctv...it is a placebo...

If it is then its a pointless waste of the taxpayers funds, because...

it didn't reduce crime, it just moved it

So really your whole argument is invalid. Do you not see?

Originally posted by mikell
I have several cameras on my property and caught some kids tearing up a camper. called the police and he didn't want to look at the video. Basically said if he didn't see it then it wasn't a crime. Ok I'll handle it next time I told him. I have a backhoe so it shouldn't be an issue.

You're going to beat a kid with a backhoe? As far as I'm concerned you are more of the criminal if you do that! I hope that same officer is the one to arrest you for assault on a minor!

reply to post by Pilgrum

Its not paranoia , it is called PRIVACY issues . I dont like perverts either and if you are peeping into other people private lives then you have a perversion of mind .
If I want you to know what I talk about I will tell you here in a public place . You dont have the right to intrude on my private time watching me .
That hampers my enjoyment allotment during this life as it does not allow me to relax with univited guests around watching , listenning . Dont you understand that univited is very rude into peoples private space .
What you like should not be forced on others.
You and I are different people . We dont like the same things . Many people like the world to watch them , They make videos of themselves having sex and post it online .
Its not one size fits all . Dont force yourself and your lifestyle on others please.

woah thanks for posting

reply to post by cartenz


CCTV is inadmissible?

working for a law firm and having worked with public transport offices and such I can say that in almost every case CCTV counts for a great deal, especially if the person arrested is caught doing a crime or leaving an area.

I got 0 issues with CCTV in cities and towns.

edit to add,

Here in Australia on trains, there is a great network of CCTV camera's.
We have operations rooms with a dozen people watching maybe 50 screens. As soon as they see someone vandalize a train, assault someone, drink alcohol or such they radio transit guards to the immediate train carriage and arrest the individual. The footage is immediately recorded to disc and sent to the courts and i was told that 95% of the arrests result in charges purely because they have them on tape committing the crime.

CCTV inadmissible, what TV Show told you that crap?

reply to post by Agit8dChop

CCTV is inadmissible? working for a law firm and having worked with public transport offices and such I can say that in almost every case CCTV counts for a great deal, especially if the person arrested is caught doing a crime or leaving an area. I got 0 issues with CCTV in cities and towns.

You appear to derive great satisfaction from all this! Do you enjoy being a sadist that destroys ordinary folks(those that have never been civil servants) civil liberties.
So you have no issue it seems being storm trooper for nwo and boasting about your twisted authoritarianism sheesh what a TOOL!.

reply to post by Theprimordialocker


what the hell?

I got no idea where your coming from, but i was simply pointing out that through my work and my experience I can say with absolute certainty that the statement '' CCTV is inadmissible in court '' is incorrect, and it indeed is used more often than not with great success.

is that ok?

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
reply to post by Theprimordialocker

 

what the hell?

I got no idea where your coming from, but i was simply pointing out that through my work and my experience I can say with absolute certainty that the statement '' CCTV is inadmissible in court '' is incorrect, and it indeed is used more often than not with great success.

is that ok?

There is this stat from the UK, and I guess this mainly applies to private CCTV and is caused by our data protection laws - but:

"The police state that 80% of CCTV evidence is inadmissible in court. Causes of such failures include inadequate documentation, lack of audit trail and incorrect recording of evidence."

This may be tiny.. but it's a win.

Here's what many of you don't know.

There's a problem south of sydney. Many things we speak about on places like this are openly DONE in our smaller towns.. folks grumble .. but in the end the big guy wins and we loose another part of our heritage.

It's becoming insane, and it's calling itself "development" and wearing the mask of progress but in reality it's a corporate sellout of everything we live here for.. and why we don't live in Sydney or in her surrounds. The Councils are well paid to endorse all this progress and even if we protest (that's a laugh.. folks grumble but protests are for the crazy hippy folks now.. that's how it's portrayed, so that's what the majority believes) they do whatever they want.

It's a prime testing ground for just how much they can sneak by us till we stand up.. problem is.. there's next to nobody left able to stand up, and those that are able to, risk everything so they don't.

reply to post by Xarian6

The Councils are well paid to endorse all this progress and even if we protest (that's a laugh.. folks grumble but protests are for the crazy hippy folks now.. that's how it's portrayed, so that's what the majority believes) they do whatever they want

The crazy hippie folks are still around they simply sold out and would rather spend all their leisure time at the Blues fest or buying lots of gadgets just like all those squares they distance themselves from so much. However this is not really news from my point of view.

problem is.. there's next to nobody left able to stand up, and those that are able to, risk everything so they don't.

Australia has never had a strong culture of rights or civil liberties anyway. Hence why libertarianism of any shade is not a big deal like it is for our american friends here.
I mean for example think of what happened when a bill of rights was proposed not only did both sides of politics ignore it most dopey ordinary aussies did also although i believe it would have been a good thing for Australia.
The same happened when we were offered a Republic we botched away our chance for what?
Just so we could continue to have the Queen in Womens Magazines, a women GG and the chance for all and sundry to kiss Prince Williams butt. I think Aussies deserve their servitude for being so mega asleep and doing nothing about it. Even the majority of those that post here on ats dont take this loss of liberty and privacy issue seriously most seem to think is merely entertaining subject matter.