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His term as Prime Minister was brought to an early and dramatic end in December 1967 when he disappeared while swimming at Cheviot Beach near Portsea, Victoria, and was presumed drowned.
Originally posted by chrismarco
reply to post by Tahnya86
I would assume that this will end within 30 years seeing that China has such a hold on Australia....if families are moving there because of the base than that city has much to gain from goods and services...unlike some immigrants who move in and send money out that money will at least stay in your country..for the most part..
Originally posted by pikestaff
Originally posted by chrismarco
reply to post by Tahnya86
I would assume that this will end within 30 years seeing that China has such a hold on Australia....if families are moving there because of the base than that city has much to gain from goods and services...unlike some immigrants who move in and send money out that money will at least stay in your country..for the most part..
Have you heard of the 'PX'? Americans buy all they need there, all shipped in via airfreight, so Dollars stay in American hands, even gas is shipped in, nothing is bought outside of the base, so the local economy does not see any upturn in spending.
Originally posted by Tahnya86
Hello all you wonderful intelligent ATS users, i am writing ANOTHER topic on the presence of the US Millitia in Australia!
Not to long ago i posted a topic on Pinegap in Australia and how the US GOV Millitia have control over Pinegap and how the Australian people know nothing not even our polliticians know enough about its existance. aout a year or so ago the Australian government announced that the US Millitary was going to be based in darwin for training, some time on from the first arrivals now their families are being established over here, now im no silly person but this to me sounds like migration or an invasion, the US Millitia has a base in the NT, Victoria, WA and i think possably Queensland, so they have almost occupied every point of was accessable states at every side of Australia, plus there is pingap which is a huge millitary advantage for surveilance and millitary dominance plus the operations in the south pole. any thoughts people?
Have you heard of the 'PX'? Americans buy all they need there, all shipped in via airfreight, so Dollars stay in American hands, even gas is shipped in, nothing is bought outside of the base, so the local economy does not see any upturn in spending.
Originally posted by spacedoubt
We only want your Koalas and your Opals.
And some of your beer, if that's alright.
Originally posted by Antonio1
Hell, America has that same number of foreign troops, if not more, based here every year for joint training. There are even Canadian Air Force personnel based at several U.S. air-bases, not to mention the NORAD HQ in Colorado Springs, yet you don't hear most Americans complaining about being invaded by Canada.
Originally posted by gps777
Originally posted by Antonio1
Hell, America has that same number of foreign troops, if not more, based here every year for joint training. There are even Canadian Air Force personnel based at several U.S. air-bases, not to mention the NORAD HQ in Colorado Springs, yet you don't hear most Americans complaining about being invaded by Canada.
The US forces are not here for training,thats the difference and NORAD is a combined org between the US and Canada.
Other Americans have said to me they are here to be a trip wire in regard to China,though when were Australian bases and military ever based on American soil to be a trip wire incase of a terrorist attack,no we gave our support after the fact.
Your Gov should do likewise intead of creating tensions that needn`t be there between us and China,thats what a friend would do.
Secondly its also insulting that 2500 US troops in Darwin would be any better than pee`d off Aussie citizens in Darwin couldn`t handle even though less equipped,we`re a scrappy bunch when push comes to shove.
Also we belong to the Commonweath of Nations and the US If we were in need of help they would have our back,if it were up to me the US would be sent packing today and until the war criminals are charged and held accountable that lead us into Iraq which is still raging 10 years later with thousands of people dead because the US lied and dragged other countries in with them,should never be trusted for 1,don`t pretend to be a civilized country fighting for the good and allow that to happen and oooohhhh so much much more.
P off American Gov out of Australia and all those who support the war machine.
Originally posted by Antonio1
You do understand that the 2500 Marines in Darwin would be used mostly in joint training exercises with the Australian military, right? Plus, the idea is to forward base them in Australia for uses in various contingency operations, not actually defend Australia from invasion by themselves. The idea is that these Marines would use Oz as a base in the event something happens in SE Asia or the Pacific, because Australia is a lot closer to SE Asia than the U.S. Thats what "forward basing" is about.
These troops are a "tripwire" in that they would be among the first responders against possible Chinese military moves against our other allies in the pacific,
again, the idea is not that these 2500 Marines will single-handedly defend Australia against a Chinese attack, that's just stupid.
How naive are you that you think that China is even remotely your friend?
And stop blaming the U.S. for Australia's involvement in Iraq, that is your fault as much as its ours. No one held a gun to your head and forced you to get involved.
You can disagree with me without starting on some whiny anti-American rant BTW.
As soon as the US took over Iraq, it became clear its interests were not limited to oil. In 2004, Paul Bremer, the then military head of the Provisional Authority imposed as many as a hundred laws which made short work of Iraq’s sovereignty.
The most crippling for the people and the economy of Iraq was Order 81 which deals, among other things, with plant varieties and patents. The goal was brutally clear-cut and sweeping — to wipe out Iraq’s traditional, sustainable agriculture and replace it with oil-chemical-genetically-modified-seed-based industrial agriculture.
With a single stroke of the pen, Iraq’s agriculture was axed, while Order 81 facilitated the introduction and domination of imported, high-priced corporate seeds, mainly from the US — which neither reproduce, nor give yields without their prescribed chemical fertiliser and pesticide inputs.
tribune.com.pk...
Originally posted by gps777
reply to post by Cauliflower
Thanks for the link,thats a long list on one page,which I`ll keep even though I`ve seen them before.
When we add that angle with corporation logo`s etc,the finger prints of real the PTB starts to be seen.