God created/influenced the atomic bomb to end WWII, to stop the massacre of his chosen people?

reply to post by AngryCymraeg

There are other posts here regarding history...I was referring to defcon5 or a few others , not the op's.

Originally posted by JakiusFogg
Yeah right. The USA is owned by the city of London. That is established fact. Rome is old news and so say there was nothing between Rome and the USA is lunacy.

And Rome owned London, including the land that the "City of London" is built on. I've seen rumors, though its almost impossible to get to the bottom of it as the Vatican is very secret about its vast holdings, that they still may own the "City of London" or be major holders in the "Corporation". The land was part St Paul's Cathedral, which sits at the highest point of the "City of London".

Rome is still an economic powerhouse with vast amounts accumulated property and wealth, its own bank, its own city, even its own military. It still holds sway over a billion Catholics.

Originally posted by JakiusFogg
I even deny the fact that the US is "an empire". IMHO it's just delusions of granduer!

I never said it was an "empire" I said it was a “world controlling superpower”.
Like it or not the Dollar is the “world standard currency”, and the US has more influence in world events now then any other country ever has.

The atomic bomb was used against the Japanese, who were not doing anything to Jews. And when it was used, the Germans (actual slaughterers of Jews) were already defeated.
Many believe the atomic bomb was used as a warning to the USSR, since the Japanese were already close to defeat and the Western establishment understood the Russians to be the next enemy.
And I wouldn't imagine God would be so shortsighted as to create a weapon whose further development would endanger all life on the planet, including "his chosen people."

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The atomic bomb made war against Israel Impossible!

Addressing the OPs point....

The nations with the most powerful weapons and armies are not necessarily nations that God is pleased with.
Take the example of Egypt... God exalted the Israelites who were slaves in Egypt and humiliated the powerful Egyptian army who used to oppress them.

Now the roles have changed with time... Israel has a powerful army... but is God pleased with them? Look at the atheism, open homosexuality, abortion and immorality that is carried out publicly in Israel. Not to mention, their cruelty to the Palestinian people.

Do you really God ignores the corruption of Israel? Its only a matter of time before Gods wrath descends on them.

Originally posted by Mystic Vibes
I made this post after drinking a few and obviosly didnt think it over to well, In a sober mind I find it more likey that such a bomb would have been the influence or creation by the devil,, didnt in enoch God was furious for the angels for sleeping and defiling there bodies with mortal men and teaching then the mysteries that they shouldnt know too early in which men were struggling to learn...
I recant this mindless post and only with I could delete or modify the post but sadly I cannot..

It is entirely too presumptious and a downright evil thing to imagine God would create such a thing.. A thousand apologies, God is good and it is man who has sin and is imperfect

Again I hope anybody reading this thread has read my recant of this post.. I was hoping this thread would die down because I myself cant delete it.. I think god meant for the human race to evolve with technology slowly, and after 6000 years he would descend to earth and christ 2nd coming, that satan screwed up his plans means much less people would enter gods fold and vision of the world. So i think much of our tech advancement,, especially that we arent aware of ie area 51 with aliens and high tech on the low down, is his attempt to actually combat god from earth using humanity as his army.. his goal to make all souls worship him and not god, that is his only chance of victory... now the the tech not sure if he plans an actual war or what not.. but from the human side and world leaders,,, ie illuminati,,, supposively he corrupts them by showing them spiritual secrets of illumination dealing with kundalini and what not..

This is what im attempting to understand, kundalini linked to serpents? Would appreciate some viewpoints on this... what does the kundalini do, asking people not in the illuminati...

On the whole Germany being defeated and The bomb was used on Japan, therefore making my thread ridiculous as people imagine i didnt know this, well i do... i simply said the bomb ended WWII and set the stage for the future hereafter, where there werent any more open assault against the Jews..If there wasnt a bomb that ended WWII maybe Germany would create WWIII and annihilate more Jews... ? Make Sense?

The Atomic Bomb was a purely scientific venture.

Neither God nor the Cathloic Church had any influence whatsoever on the Manhattan Project.

Originally posted by defcon5

Originally posted by JakiusFogg
Yeah right. The USA is owned by the city of London. That is established fact. Rome is old news and so say there was nothing between Rome and the USA is lunacy.

And Rome owned London, including the land that the "City of London" is built on. I've seen rumors, though its almost impossible to get to the bottom of it as the Vatican is very secret about its vast holdings, that they still may own the "City of London" or be major holders in the "Corporation". The land was part St Paul's Cathedral, which sits at the highest point of the "City of London".

Rome is still an economic powerhouse with vast amounts accumulated property and wealth, its own bank, its own city, even its own military. It still holds sway over a billion Catholics.

Originally posted by JakiusFogg
I even deny the fact that the US is "an empire". IMHO it's just delusions of granduer!

I never said it was an "empire" I said it was a “world controlling superpower”.
Like it or not the Dollar is the “world standard currency”, and the US has more influence in world events now then any other country ever has.

edit on 4/28/2013 by defcon5 because: missed a quote tag

I've heard these rumors too, that the Vatican still owns the land that the City of London stands on.

Also, that the Royal Family might own the land too.

The US dollar isn't the only "World Standard Currency". The IMF recognizes the US Dollar, Yen, UK Pound, Euro, and as of two weeks ago, Canadian Dollar, as reserve currencies for the world.

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ok - a few basic facts :

VE day - 8th MAY 1945

trinity atom bomb test - 16th JULY 1945

hiroshima raid [ 1st operational deployment ] - 06th AUGUST 1945

ergo the development of atomic weapons did nothing to stop the massacre of " gods chosen people "

the slaughter of jews in europe was halted by pure brute force of conventional warfare

a real "god " could have saved his " chosen people " - by visiting damnation on neurmberg

or are panzers akin to " iron chariots " and reprsent a force " god " canot counter ?

you are not making a very good cae for " god " unless you are portraying it as ` too little , too late `

I am the OP and I would just like to add, take a look at who controls the major 3 sources of power

1. Media ( CNN, MSN, Fox, etci)

2. Hollywood

3. Banks

These are the very blood that runs through society, all controlled by Jews, IE gods chosen people.

The war that Germany Started was to stop the Infiltration of the Jews into these circuits and they blamed them for loosing the WWI.

If the Abomb, whose creation was during WWII, despite who they bombed . didnt exist, and there wasnt the MAD mutually Assured Destruction, what would have happened, a WWIII then WWWIV...ETC.. all aimed at destroying Jews..

After Learning and Researching the Bible Prophecy and how so much has come to pass I can only agree that it is true, The Jews are Gods Chosen People and me being a German by ancestory and American by birth, that the way to heaven is throgh Christ, through not only the empowering nature of the words but through this propechy coming true..If so God will act soon, some predictations say the start is mid 2013 and the end will be 2016, where all is left in dust including satan but for the followers who admit chirst and repent,, satan still loved by God will be thrown in the pits of hell after his 1000 years of peace on earth,,,, come 2016 all souls ever born will be judged based on there light, good or evil, follow satan or god...

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These are the very blood that runs through society, all controlled by Jews, IE gods chosen people.

Did God also want His "chosen" people to run the smut industry?

Did God also want the "chosen" people to oppose Jesus and reject him as the messiah?... and insult him by calling him a son of a whore?

Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by Mystic Vibes

 

These are the very blood that runs through society, all controlled by Jews, IE gods chosen people.

Did God also want His "chosen" people to run the smut industry?

Did God also want the "chosen" people to oppose Jesus and reject him as the messiah?... and insult him by calling him a son of a whore?

I didn't realise God graded on a scale as far as sin goes.

You apparently must be free of sin since you're still holding your rock.

I respect and tolerate everyone's beliefs and their right to have and express them.

That said, personally I have great difficulty believing in or comprehending the concept of an ostensibly loving, merciful deity that creates living beings, gives them free will rather than directly intervening or controlling their actions so that they can freely find their way to him and his worship, even to the extent of allowing the Hallocaust to take place along with countless other human atrocities, but chooses to "influence" them nevertheless in a manner resulting in the creation of the most destructive weapons known to history causing the deaths of innocent people including children, and risking the extinction of the human species through such weapons' use... just to preserve and protect one subset of his creation.

All while instructing said creations never to kill.

Peace.

WoW! There is so much wrong with this theory
1) Israel was not a country till 1948. This was years after the war
2) If it was to save the chosen people, it would have been used on Nazi Germany and not Japan
3) Also, Nagasaki Japan was the home of the majority of Christians in Asia. So, you are saying that it was God's plan to remove Christians from Asia? If so than why are we still trying to promote Christianity in Asia; which would be against God's wishes.

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I didn't realise God graded on a scale as far as sin goes.

I guess you haven't realized your own bible teaches that there are varying degrees of sin.

You apparently must be free of sin...

Never claimed that.

I was addressing OPs points about the chosen people.

Originally posted by IAmARock
reply to post by Mystic Vibes

 

Who or what created God? If you can answer that I may be inclined to indulge in this post. Otherwise the Human Construct Theory has more validity than what you are proposing.

That's the riddle because for all we know God was not created but rather randomly came into existence as the result of a cosmic primordial soup.

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There might be varying degrees of sin, but there's the same Hell for all sinners. Point being, we're all sinners.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

quote]Originally posted by EndlessWhite

Originally posted by Magister1
WoW! There is so much wrong with this theory
1) Israel was not a country till 1948. This was years after the war
2) If it was to save the chosen people, it would have been used on Nazi Germany and not Japan
3) Also, Nagasaki Japan was the home of the majority of Christians in Asia. So, you are saying that it was God's plan to remove Christians from Asia? If so than why are we still trying to promote Christianity in Asia; which would be against God's wishes.

I dont think you understand the point of this thread, Im saying the atomic bomb created by man despite its nationality was an eventuality, perhaps due to God's will!

Some may believe GOD wouldnt create a Mass Destruction device and it has nothing to do with Jews, Israel, or the 2nd coming of Christ.

I posit this, If you believe in GOD then is anything this big in terms of human achievement beyond his control in influencing? My theory is he allowed it to end WWII and to be a barrier of entry to an early wwwIII showdown with satan, and to stop forever the mass genocide of his chosen people the Jews.. If the WWII didnt end with the appeareance of nucluar war and the repelent of mutual mass destruction, would the Jews still be hunted down from Germany a decade or two afterwards? Did this pave the way for the construction Of the state of Israel in anyway?

Basically I think the above author isnt fully grasping the significance of the bomb and how such a revelation would play out in the future, even if it was used on Japan and not Germany... That is irrelevant to its existance in the first place, its a deterent for killing further Jews ( they control world banks, any hostility would result in WWIII, too many souls would be lost), despite on whom it was used on,.......

The creation wasn't for revenge but Deterrence , the protection of Israel and a means of its creation, not the destruction of the instigators (germany)... they say atleast the war would continue for 1-2 more years fighting japan, germany might pull some tricks and fight back,, another idea to conteplate?

Originally posted by Mystic Vibes

I dont think you understand the point of this thread, Im saying the atomic bomb created by man despite its nationality was an eventuality, perhaps due to God's will!

Some may believe GOD wouldnt create a Mass Destruction device and it has nothing to do with Jews, Israel, or the 2nd coming of Christ.

I posit this, If you believe in GOD then is anything this big in terms of human achievement beyond his control in influencing? My theory is he allowed it to end WWII and to be a barrier of entry to an early wwwIII showdown with satan, and to stop forever the mass genocide of his chosen people the Jews.. If the WWII didnt end with the appeareance of nucluar war and the repelent of mutual mass destruction, would the Jews still be hunted down from Germany a decade or two afterwards? Did this pave the way for the construction Of the state of Israel in anyway?

Basically I think the above author isnt fully grasping the significance of the bomb and how such a revelation would play out in the future, even if it was used on Japan and not Germany... That is irrelevant to its existance in the first place, its a deterent for killing further Jews ( they control world banks, any hostility would result in WWIII, too many souls would be lost), despite on whom it was used on,.......

The creation wasn't for revenge but Deterrence , the protection of Israel and a means of its creation, not the destruction of the instigators (germany)... they say atleast the war would continue for 1-2 more years fighting japan, germany might pull some tricks and fight back,, another idea to conteplate?

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Again, Germany was totally and utterly defeated in May 1945, three months before the Bomb was first dropped on Hiroshima. It had no tricks left, because it had been smashed to pieces and then the pieces were pulverised still further. And I'm sorry but what's the link between World War III and Satan? extra DIV